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Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:05 pm
by nottsblue
At the moment he is a luxury. He offers nothing when he doesn't score. I know the service lately hasn't been great but he's still missed a good number of chances he would in previous seasons have taken. And his run making has virtually stopped and he looks disinterested

And have we got the personnel to actually get the best from him? Not in my eyes. Is he here for the long term? Only he and his agent know this.

Of course the flip side is when he's on form he's a machine and the numbers he's produced are extraordinary. But I also think opposition defenders have cottoned on to how to nullify him.

Would we have been better off with Alvarez? Hindsight is great of course and he had limitations as well, lack of genuine pace for one.

And it's the age old adage of who could we get to replace him? Not easy at all.

So back to the debate of is it the time to cash in when we can get serious money to help fund the squad redevelopment?

Personally, I think we should keep him, but only if we play to his strengths. Which isn't tippy-tappy football on the edge of the box. And that's on the manager

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:12 pm
by Mase
I think he’s missed some chances but my issue is more with the people around him. Hes getting next to fuck all service - id be sulking too.

We’ve bought players that aren’t good enough for us - Savio, Doku, Nunes - Haaland needs better players to feed him.

He also needs competition. Completely understand letting Alvarez go, he wanted to leave and we had a ridiculous offer for him, but not getting a replacement in was criminal.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:12 pm
by PeterParker
No.
He is not a Pep player and never will be.
He needs to stay and I am sure he will come good. His records are still insane.

At the moment him and Dias are the only players I would keep no matter what.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:21 pm
by Sparklehorse
PeterParker wrote:No.
He is not a Pep player and never will be.
He needs to stay and I am sure he will come good. His records are still insane.

At the moment him and Dias are the only players I would keep no matter what.

More worrying for me is the form of Foden, for large part of today's game I forgot he was playing because he was so uninvolved and uninterested, truly shocking for a player of his obvious ability. What can it be ?......some have suggested family woes, really ?

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:23 pm
by Original Dub
I definitely wouldn't get rid of haaland and pep at the same time. No way.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:54 pm
by Kippax Sean
No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:58 pm
by sheblue
No wouldn't sell. Heres an idea, maybe play a few balls into him now and again.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:59 pm
by Mase
Kippax Sean wrote:No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.


Agree. We need players behind him that will feed him. That needs to be our focus in the next window, otherwise it won’t be “should WE sell Haaland” he’ll just fuck us off.

Morgan Rogers would have been perfect for just behind Erling. Full of energy and a decent pass on him. Shame.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:01 pm
by zuricity
Kippax Sean wrote:No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.


If teams constantly pack eleven players in their own area ,as happens against City, no player will get the room to move and score. Not just Erling, anyone.
Erling is not a problem at all It is the failure to get the ball to him. The Rags right back totally dominated Doku today, who let's face it doesn't know how to cross a ball. The one time he did it went way over Haarlands head.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:11 pm
by PeterParker
zuricity wrote:
Kippax Sean wrote:No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.


If teams constantly pack eleven players in their own area ,as happens against City, no player will get the room to move and score. Not just Erling, anyone.
Erling is not a problem at all It is the failure to get the ball to him. The Rags right back totally dominated Doku today, who let's face it doesn't know how to cross a ball. The one time he did it went way over Haarlands head.


Zury, teams pack, but we barely shoot because of that insanity idea of passing the ball into the net.
It always bother me the mentality our players had around that goal Vinnie scored vs Leicester. "Don't shoot".
If he wouldn't have taken that shot, we wouldn't have scored.
So from time to time, fucking shoot.

Today we had one of the most inconstant keepers in the league and we barely tried him.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:18 pm
by Sparklehorse
The reason Haaland isn’t scoring is because when we transition in our own half we don’t do it with any pace an it’s as if we wait for the opposition defence to reorganise, most of his goals come from fast breaks and that just never happens these days. Never!

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:23 pm
by zuricity
PeterParker wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Kippax Sean wrote:No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.


If teams constantly pack eleven players in their own area ,as happens against City, no player will get the room to move and score. Not just Erling, anyone.
Erling is not a problem at all It is the failure to get the ball to him. The Rags right back totally dominated Doku today, who let's face it doesn't know how to cross a ball. The one time he did it went way over Haarlands head.


Zury, teams pack, but we barely shoot because of that insanity idea of passing the ball into the net.
It always bother me the mentality our players had around that goal Vinnie scored vs Leicester. "Don't shoot".
If he wouldn't have taken that shot, we wouldn't have scored.
So from time to time, fucking shoot.

Today we had one of the most inconstant keepers in the league and we barely tried him.



Come on, Vinnie's goal was not through a packed defence. It was a 25 yard screamer with no one around.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:25 pm
by salford city
WTAF is happening in here? Haaland, possibly the greatest striker of his generation yeah get shut. Here's a fucking idea, set us up to play to his strengths

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:31 pm
by zuricity
salford city wrote:WTAF is happening in here? Haaland, possibly the greatest striker of his generation yeah get shut. Here's a fucking idea, set us up to play to his strengths


Amen.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:32 pm
by blues2win
No it isn’t. Where would we be without his goals?

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:39 pm
by ayrshireblue
We knew what he was when we bought him, played to his strengths for 2 years and he broke all the records. Now we fanny about with the ball till he has no space in which to work then moan that he's not scoring. We need to stop sitting camped out on the edge of teams boxes, sitting eeper and drawing them out would help us with more space and less vulnerable to the counter attacks. Put the ball in early and Haaland will score goals again.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:02 pm
by Sparklehorse
ayrshireblue wrote:We knew what he was when we bought him, played to his strengths for 2 years and he broke all the records. Now we fanny about with the ball till he has no space in which to work then moan that he's not scoring. We need to stop sitting camped out on the edge of teams boxes, sitting eeper and drawing them out would help us with more space and less vulnerable to the counter attacks. Put the ball in early and Haaland will score goals again.


This exactly, it’s so fucking obvious a child could work it out, but Pep is seems can’t.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:09 pm
by CTID Hants
Sparklehorse wrote:
ayrshireblue wrote:We knew what he was when we bought him, played to his strengths for 2 years and he broke all the records. Now we fanny about with the ball till he has no space in which to work then moan that he's not scoring. We need to stop sitting camped out on the edge of teams boxes, sitting eeper and drawing them out would help us with more space and less vulnerable to the counter attacks. Put the ball in early and Haaland will score goals again.


This exactly, it’s so fucking obvious a child could work it out, but Pep is seems can’t.



Agree, it's not rocket science.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:39 pm
by Indianablue
zuricity wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Kippax Sean wrote:No! Under a different manager and style he'd be unbelievable. He's a striker and needs the ball passed across the box or through the middle to run onto. If the team is off then he looks Luike a manequin. Give him the right service and he'll be back to 50 goals a season.


If teams constantly pack eleven players in their own area ,as happens against City, no player will get the room to move and score. Not just Erling, anyone.
Erling is not a problem at all It is the failure to get the ball to him. The Rags right back totally dominated Doku today, who let's face it doesn't know how to cross a ball. The one time he did it went way over Haarlands head.


Zury, teams pack, but we barely shoot because of that insanity idea of passing the ball into the net.
It always bother me the mentality our players had around that goal Vinnie scored vs Leicester. "Don't shoot".
If he wouldn't have taken that shot, we wouldn't have scored.
So from time to time, fucking shoot.

Today we had one of the most inconstant keepers in the league and we barely tried him.



Come on, Vinnie's goal was not through a packed defence. It was a 25 yard screamer with no one around.

Wrong, Leicester had parked the bus and frustration was mounting in the team and crowd. Saw it go in from a great view behind Vinny. If he hadn't have hit it we'd still be passing the ball.

Re: Haaland. Is it time to cash in?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:44 pm
by Indianablue
Keep Haaland but play to his strengths. Hit quicker balls to him from the wing ot through the middle. We simply are too slow to advance and we are often have too many too far up the pitch utd caught us like so many other teams with young kids, with pace in miles of space running into open spaces. We just like playing rollo and slowly advancing up then back then sideways. We don't really tire out the opposition, just bore them to death.