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do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

Some of his build up play in this tournament has been great.
If you want to talk invisible let's talk about Marmoush when he came on.

stupot wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

Some of his build up play in this tournament has been great.
If you want to talk invisible let's talk about Marmoush when he came on.

Let’s not rewrite reality to fit an agenda ffs !!. Haaland’s build-up play has been, at best, functional. He drops deep occasionally, but rarely with any finesse or purpose. His touches are often heavy, link-ups awkward, and he frequently slows down attacking moves rather than enhancing them. If you think that’s “great,” then you need to re think.

And yeah, Marmoush wasn’t great when he came on — but let’s not use someone else's poor cameo to gloss over the fact that Haaland’s overall impact in this tournament has been way below par for a so-called world-class striker. One goal in four games !!!! and multiple sitters missed !!. Let’s deal in standards, not fucking excuses.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

stupot wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

Some of his build up play in this tournament has been great.
If you want to talk invisible let's talk about Marmoush when he came on.

Let’s not rewrite reality to fit an agenda ffs !!. Haaland’s build-up play has been, at best, functional. He drops deep occasionally, but rarely with any finesse or purpose. His touches are often heavy, link-ups awkward, and he frequently slows down attacking moves rather than enhancing them. If you think that’s “great,” then you need to re think.

And yeah, Marmoush wasn’t great when he came on — but let’s not use someone else's poor cameo to gloss over the fact that Haaland’s overall impact in this tournament has been way below par for a so-called world-class striker. One goal in four games !!!! and multiple sitters missed !!. Let’s deal in standards, not fucking excuses.

3 goals in 4 games

stupot wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

stupot wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

Some of his build up play in this tournament has been great.
If you want to talk invisible let's talk about Marmoush when he came on.

Let’s not rewrite reality to fit an agenda ffs !!. Haaland’s build-up play has been, at best, functional. He drops deep occasionally, but rarely with any finesse or purpose. His touches are often heavy, link-ups awkward, and he frequently slows down attacking moves rather than enhancing them. If you think that’s “great,” then you need to re think.

And yeah, Marmoush wasn’t great when he came on — but let’s not use someone else's poor cameo to gloss over the fact that Haaland’s overall impact in this tournament has been way below par for a so-called world-class striker. One goal in four games !!!! and multiple sitters missed !!. Let’s deal in standards, not fucking excuses.

3 goals in 4 games

I stand corrected on that particular stat but my analysis of his overall performances still stands.

Everyone shit apart from Jack

3 goals in 4 games sounds pretty decent to me for a striker. If he gave up on the link-up play, spent a lot more time in the box getting on the end of things, leaving the creative work to the creatives, with people actually playing the ball into him in those positions, we'd all be better off for it.

I will repost what I've said on the other thread
The fastest player to reach 300 goals, better than arguably the best players that graced this game: Messi and Tranny.
An absolute goal machine we needed and huge part of the treble.

Neah, he will be better with another manager. Any manager at this point.
There isn't a player in this world that can be that focused for 90 minutes and be ready for two proper opportunities after 9000 side passes per game. It can't, it's draining. And he is becoming frustrated.
Pep's system is taking the life out of him and remember that another world class one, Sergio, was another one that he didn't want.
Remember he wanted Kane, not Haaland.

We play better a lot of the time without Haaland. And in a lot of games he is anonymous.

But, to win stuff we need to have a guy who can score. And he does that better than virtually anyone else out there. So it's a difficult conundrum

Let's say for a second Madrid sign him for £200M. Who do we buy to replace him? Isak?
Lautaro Martinez?
Harry Kane?
Mbappe?
Osimhen?
Groceries?
Guirassy?
Sesko?
Ekitike?

None of these are as good as Haaland at goalscoring IMO so it would be risky to think we can do better without a lot of disruption

nottsblue wrote:We play better a lot of the time without Haaland. And in a lot of games he is anonymous.

But, to win stuff we need to have a guy who can score. And he does that better than virtually anyone else out there. So it's a difficult conundrum

Let's say for a second Madrid sign him for £200M. Who do we buy to replace him? Isak?
Lautaro Martinez?
Harry Kane?
Mbappe?
Osimhen?
Groceries?
Guirassy?
Sesko?
Ekitike?

None of these are as good as Haaland at goalscoring IMO so it would be risky to think we can do better without a lot of disruption

Why would we need to replace him? We played for years without a striker.

9 year contract, hmmm wonder would that make you take the foot off the gas a little.

Why would we want to replace him, he's a goal machine.
3 goals in 4 games here along with a couple of great assists for Foden and Cherki.
Last season in a struggling season he scored against Real Madrid, away at PSG and away at Arsenal.
I think he was still 2nd leading scorer in the league even with his injuries.
Hopefully the likes of Cherki can feed him like Kev did.

Mase wrote:

nottsblue wrote:We play better a lot of the time without Haaland. And in a lot of games he is anonymous.

But, to win stuff we need to have a guy who can score. And he does that better than virtually anyone else out there. So it's a difficult conundrum

Let's say for a second Madrid sign him for £200M. Who do we buy to replace him? Isak?
Lautaro Martinez?
Harry Kane?
Mbappe?
Osimhen?
Groceries?
Guirassy?
Sesko?
Ekitike?

None of these are as good as Haaland at goalscoring IMO so it would be risky to think we can do better without a lot of disruption

Why would we need to replace him? We played for years without a striker.

The year or so we played without a recognised striker after Kun left were anomalies. We had 4/5 guys who could get 12/15 goals. Don't see that in the current squad.

Be truly amazed if we went without a striker again. Probably why we signed Marmoush. But he isn't a direct replacement for Viking, at least not an acceptable one

Haaland should have had a bunch of assists this tournament but the players he’s setting up don’t finish like him.

It’s great he’s adding to his game but we’d all be better off if the other 10 could serve him the chances and morn the other way around.

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Haaland should have had a bunch of assists this tournament but the players he’s setting up don’t finish like him.

It’s great he’s adding to his game but we’d all be better off if the other 10 could serve him the chances and morn the other way around.

they are finishing like him at the moment. badly
in fact, i may resurrect my favourite thread….

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Haaland should have had a bunch of assists this tournament but the players he’s setting up don’t finish like him.

It’s great he’s adding to his game but we’d all be better off if the other 10 could serve him the chances and morn the other way around.

In the 2023–24 Premier League season, Erling Haaland led the league in big‑chances missed, registering 32 big chances missed, the highest of any player that season
In the following 2024–25 Premier League campaign, he missed 21 big chances, which again was the most in the league

He scored plenty - but let’s not hide away from the fact he also misses plenty .

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

stupot wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Nigels Tackle wrote:do we need to have a conversation about him?
i know he scored but he's missing way too many (easy) chances

If he’s not finishing chances, he’s practically invisible.

Some of his build up play in this tournament has been great.
If you want to talk invisible let's talk about Marmoush when he came on.

Let’s not rewrite reality to fit an agenda ffs !!. Haaland’s build-up play has been, at best, functional. He drops deep occasionally, but rarely with any finesse or purpose. His touches are often heavy, link-ups awkward, and he frequently slows down attacking moves rather than enhancing them. If you think that’s “great,” then you need to re think.

And yeah, Marmoush wasn’t great when he came on — but let’s not use someone else's poor cameo to gloss over the fact that Haaland’s overall impact in this tournament has been way below par for a so-called world-class striker. One goal in four games !!!! and multiple sitters missed !!. Let’s deal in standards, not fucking excuses.

Great post Carl

PeterParker wrote:I will repost what I've said on the other thread
The fastest player to reach 300 goals, better than arguably the best players that graced this game: Messi and Tranny.
An absolute goal machine we needed and huge part of the treble.

Neah, he will be better with another manager. Any manager at this point.
There isn't a player in this world that can be that focused for 90 minutes and be ready for two proper opportunities after 9000 side passes per game. It can't, it's draining. And he is becoming frustrated.
Pep's system is taking the life out of him and remember that another world class one, Sergio, was another one that he didn't want.
Remember he wanted Kane, not Haaland.

Another good post. We certainly dont play to his strengths and he's suffered for it. Started brilliantly with us then his performances tailed off as Pep fucked him about. Went downhill after his fastest 50 record