When will we trust in Pep

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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:23 pm

london blue 2 wrote:Should have trusted him :shock:


Not really. We’re playing third from bottom ffs
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Crossie » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:41 pm

When he wins the Champions League.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:48 pm

Mase wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:Should have trusted him :shock:


Not really. We’re playing third from bottom ffs

17 points clear Mase that should help you back on your feet x
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:49 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:Should have trusted him :shock:


Not really. We’re playing third from bottom ffs

17 points clear Mase that should help you back on your feet x


I’m buzzin to be that far ahead.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Dubciteh » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:03 am

Never. Im still fuming after yesterday. I have no idea what pep was thinking, no logical explanation.

Im putting that loss all on him.
derby day the scores were level,
then the goat was fed by neville,
silly boy should know for sure,
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby s1ty m » Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:53 am

I have faith that he will pick odd sides and stubbornly refuse to change it when everybody can see it is a mess.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:11 pm

Mase wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:Should have trusted him :shock:


Not really. We’re playing third from bottom ffs

17 points clear Mase that should help you back on your feet x


I’m buzzin to be that far ahead.

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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby branny » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:17 pm

Dubciteh wrote:Never. Im still fuming after yesterday. I have no idea what pep was thinking, no logical explanation.

Im putting that loss all on him.


It all stems from his brain fart line up and surrender vs the rags. It was 5 days after we'd played Wolves so no need to rotate. If he wanted to do that then the Southampton game 3 days later was ideal. To do it in a Derby vs the team in 2nd beggars belief. We win that and we're 5 points off winning the league. That gives us extra wiggle room at this time of the season.

If he wants to be stubborn and prioritise then the next two games are the ones to do it. He could have started the first choice 11 yesterday and started using the subs in the last half hour, if he couldn't do that then rotate for Villa and the LC final. If we get through yesterday I think most blues wouldn't give a flying fuck about next Sunday with the first choice given a week off and the real possibility of matching the rags 99 treble.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby london blue 2 » Tue May 11, 2021 7:17 pm

Is it time to believe? Pep delivers again!
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Whassat » Tue May 11, 2021 7:22 pm

I never doubted Pep, it is just that he once and a while come up with these brain farts. Overall though the best manager of his generation, no question about it.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby sheblue » Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm

Whassat wrote:I never doubted Pep, it is just that he once and a while come up with these brain farts. Overall though the best manager of his generation, no question about it.


Agree with that. But I still have a very small niggling worry that he will have a brain fart when picking his team for the final. :shock:
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby PrezIke » Tue May 11, 2021 7:45 pm

Those questioning his quality are pretty much lost at this point. Even the likes of Ronay giving credit today.

I also cannot say how much I appreciated hearing Sam Lee's post-match analysis on Pep following the Chelsea loss during the last Why Always Us? and apparently in his latest Athletic article. I wrote this before we won the title, earlier today, and know some can't stand him but he is exceptional at laying out Pep's thinking for those who fail to understand.



I feel Lee's the only journalist I hear who consistently reports thoughts that seem quite logical, and often cross my mind, yet I can barely recall other journalists raise when they come to their conclusions on Pep.

Conclusions I feel often COMPLETELY MISS THE BOAT, leaving these same journalists befuddled as to how Pep came to his decisions, and instead slate him off with discomforting ease. Someone with his success record. Someone who since joining City has managed a squad full of the highest quality talent, carefully selected with Txiki and managed by him to temper the usual accompaniment of massive ego that hurt him in the past (read: Ibrahimavic).


Who deserves credit for that? Not Pep. He's a chequebook manager with it easy. Anyone can win with that squad goes the cliche.

No CL victory? Automatic failure. Criticised for failing his first season then win back 2 back titles one with 100 points, then drop off significantly whilst Liverpool win CL and the PL and are hailed even more unstoppable. What next? Start off the season poorly, in 8th, then recover and leave them all in the dust, win the title with weeks to spare, and take the side to the CL final? No worries, David Moyes is your manager of the year, or some other mid-table club. Put Pep in charge of a lesser club like Burnley. Otherwise not so impressive.

Player of the Year? Harry Kane, Fernandes or anyone but City, of course. I heard one journalist seem to go out of their way to avoid City players on a recent BT pod, whilst the other 2 did give KDB or Dias more of a shout, but Spurs are not even in the top 4.

What else could be happening? Perhaps some due to bias against City and even for an English player, but perhaps due as well to bias against the focus of Pep: HIS DESIRE TO CREATE A STRUCTURED TEAM SYSTEM, that relies less on one individual (logical given the risk you face when one of your best is injured - see Mbappe or how we used to suffer when Kun or Komps or KDB previously were out) and how his rotation system EMPHASISES TEAM and less of the individual.

Why is it we do not hear massive peeps of "I want out now?" We know some players are unhappy, but Pep rewards hard work and resilience. He will always give you your chances to prove yourself and keep some players in the team longer than seems sensible, but that's called MAN MANAGEMENT. So many who've been dropped or I've thought were off, yet have stuck around and/or thrived after coming back from the dead to prove themselves following the chances Pep gives them by using the depth he has, rather than the same 11 over and over and over again.

I struggle to recall the vast majority of the "award winning journalists" demonstrating the capacity to step outside of their own viewpoint on MANY issues I can attest to observing regarding coverage of City.

Thank you Sam Lee for being one who can see what seems sensible and missing. In fact, in this episode Lee explained that what he is writing and saying is what the coaching staff would probably say and makes more sense than just saying oh he was wrong. We all know far less than Pep and none of us can say we do.

What I too frequently hear and read from other journalists is an attempt to promulgate their viewpoint without any reflection of how it could be flawed. Their own ego gets in the way, perhaps? Rafa Honigstein is one who I give credit as I've heard him try to argue with some of Pep's detractors whilst he struggled in the PL in his 1st season on occasion. Yet, SURPRISE he covered Pep closely whilst he was at Bayern so he spent the time and energy.

The rest? I'm not so sure.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Mase » Tue May 11, 2021 7:48 pm

Jesus. Sam Lee is the biggest bullshitter around :lol:

“I never said City were signing him, I said they were interested”. Always his backup line when he’s proven wrong. The guys a moron.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby nottsblue » Tue May 11, 2021 7:53 pm

A genius.

His record speaks for itself.

But he can be infuriating at times but I guess that’s par for the course. But I wouldn’t swap him for anyone.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby john@staustell » Wed May 12, 2021 4:18 am

nottsblue wrote:A genius.

His record speaks for itself.

But he can be infuriating at times but I guess that’s par for the course. But I wouldn’t swap him for anyone.


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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Sparklehorse » Wed May 12, 2021 3:28 pm

That’s a good point, would anyone swap Pep for another manager in World football, I sure as hell wouldn’t. He fucks up from time to time, but no football club anywhere on Earth can expect to win every game......this is the beauty of the game :)
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby PrezIke » Wed May 12, 2021 3:56 pm

Mase wrote:Jesus. Sam Lee is the biggest bullshitter around :lol:

“I never said City were signing him, I said they were interested”. Always his backup line when he’s proven wrong. The guys a moron.


He's commented on this several times mate.

Alves & Alexis did verbally agree to join us. We know this to be true.

Here's other reporting on Alves set to join:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -junventus

I also recall hearing Sanchez even had the contract sent to him to I think whilst on holiday South America.

It was that United offered a massive pay rise (300k/week)

Generally on how close Alexis was to signing, Lee wasn't the only one with this info:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/275 ... until-2021

In both cases it was that another club swooped in with a better offer at the last minute.

With Jorghino, and really what is behind all of these failed signings is that we haggled over the fee or wages.

We know that's what happened with Jorghnio. He agreed to join, wanted to, but then Chelsea offered what Napoli wanted, and it was with Sari who he'd played under already.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Dubciteh » Wed May 12, 2021 8:48 pm

Im still annoyed we lost the fa cup semi!
derby day the scores were level,
then the goat was fed by neville,
silly boy should know for sure,
feed the goat and he will score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby harveytravis » Wed May 12, 2021 9:00 pm

john@staustell wrote:
nottsblue wrote:A genius.

His record speaks for itself
But he can be infuriating at times but I guess that’s par for the course. But I wouldn’t swap him for anyone.


All geniuses are basically bonkers


Look at Mozart...
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Mase » Thu May 13, 2021 6:09 pm

Pep Guardiola: 'Jurgen Klopp is an inspiration to me'

When he stops talking absolute bollocks like that.
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