Mase wrote:PeterParker wrote:Dimples wrote:We were dreadful before Lillo arrived.
We were great while Lillo was here.
We are dreadful since Lillo left.
This is our biggest problem (plus we need a genuine pacy winger plus a proper LB).
I with you mate on this one.
There were a few close ups yesterday on Pep and Borell, then Maresca, they were saying something and he completely ignored them.
I wonder if Domènec Torrent will come back at some point here? They worked together at Barcelona when Pep first started and he was here also.
The point is he needs an assistant he listens too, not someone he ignores.
Fern is missing also.
Lillo’s managing in Qatar, not a major league. If he was this miracle worker then he’d be managing or coaching at a top club.
We won the domestic treble before him. We got 100 points before him.
He himself didn’t make a huge difference. The difference was having a consistent defence (Stones and Dias). That helped us massively.
PeterParker wrote:Mase wrote:PeterParker wrote:Dimples wrote:We were dreadful before Lillo arrived.
We were great while Lillo was here.
We are dreadful since Lillo left.
This is our biggest problem (plus we need a genuine pacy winger plus a proper LB).
I with you mate on this one.
There were a few close ups yesterday on Pep and Borell, then Maresca, they were saying something and he completely ignored them.
I wonder if Domènec Torrent will come back at some point here? They worked together at Barcelona when Pep first started and he was here also.
The point is he needs an assistant he listens too, not someone he ignores.
Fern is missing also.
Lillo’s managing in Qatar, not a major league. If he was this miracle worker then he’d be managing or coaching at a top club.
We won the domestic treble before him. We got 100 points before him.
He himself didn’t make a huge difference. The difference was having a consistent defence (Stones and Dias). That helped us massively.
I think Lillo's role was to convince Pep on doing certain things, imho. He saw some things and had his input, thing we point out here in match threads.
I remember in 20/21, Pep said he had a chat with Sacchi and the italian told him what the team needs and he did that.
Original Dub wrote:Good man mase![]()
All we need to find is who the common denominator was throughout pep's unrivalled success and get them back.
Answers?
Go!
sheblue wrote:Nobody is saying Pep is a shit manager. Correctly his mistakes are being pointed out.
Had he's had some howlers this season.
PS
Lillo me bollocks it's down to one man.
Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
Original Dub wrote:Seriously Carl, you should have a look back at your comments on pep since he got here.
Then put them against how much success and how many records he's broken with us.
He has the best win percentage there is as far as I know.
Of course he will make mistakes. But he makes far, far less than any other Manager pretty much of all time.
Now, if you hold all of the above against what you've been saying about him since he got here, it would most certainly be you in the very small club of people who feel that way
Mase wrote:Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
They miss the duo of Kola and Otta, they just won’t admit it mate.
Outcast wrote:Mase wrote:Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
They miss the duo of Kola and Otta, they just won’t admit it mate.
To be fair, Otters was solid in the world cup. Wouldnt mind having him back on current form
ayrshireblue wrote:Outcast wrote:Mase wrote:Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
They miss the duo of Kola and Otta, they just won’t admit it mate.
To be fair, Otters was solid in the world cup. Wouldnt mind having him back on current form
It was Otamendi's monumentsl fuck up that got France back into the game in the final.
Mase wrote:Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
I miss the duo of Kola and Otta, I just won’t admit it mate.
Bluemoon4610 wrote:Mase wrote:Outcast wrote:Why is everyone making out dildo (Lillo) as some kind of a messiah?
I miss the duo of Kola and Otta, I just won’t admit it mate.
Corrected your mistake there, Mase...
blues2win wrote:Interestingly Pep said he was pleased overall by City’s performance yesterday. Against a well drilled deep physically imposing defence he felt we had enough chances to win. Stones and Rodri missed good chances. If the first had gone in we’d be celebrating a victory. Let’s not overdo the gloom.
Original Dub wrote:blues2win wrote:Interestingly Pep said he was pleased overall by City’s performance yesterday. Against a well drilled deep physically imposing defence he felt we had enough chances to win. Stones and Rodri missed good chances. If the first had gone in we’d be celebrating a victory. Let’s not overdo the gloom.
When those chances go in, it's well done to the players.
When they don't, it's bad management. I think that's how it works?
nottsblue wrote:Original Dub wrote:blues2win wrote:Interestingly Pep said he was pleased overall by City’s performance yesterday. Against a well drilled deep physically imposing defence he felt we had enough chances to win. Stones and Rodri missed good chances. If the first had gone in we’d be celebrating a victory. Let’s not overdo the gloom.
When those chances go in, it's well done to the players.
When they don't, it's bad management. I think that's how it works?
Pretty much
A managers influence once the players are on the pitch is limited. However the manager can make changes during the game if things aren't going to plan and this is an area Pep isn’t renowned for
Original Dub wrote:nottsblue wrote:Original Dub wrote:blues2win wrote:Interestingly Pep said he was pleased overall by City’s performance yesterday. Against a well drilled deep physically imposing defence he felt we had enough chances to win. Stones and Rodri missed good chances. If the first had gone in we’d be celebrating a victory. Let’s not overdo the gloom.
When those chances go in, it's well done to the players.
When they don't, it's bad management. I think that's how it works?
Pretty much
A managers influence once the players are on the pitch is limited. However the manager can make changes during the game if things aren't going to plan and this is an area Pep isn’t renowned for
I dunno mate, I remember not that long ago when he brought on zinchenko and gundo and it worked out perfectly. Possibly the best substitutions I've ever seen.
I do hear what people are saying. He doesn't make as many changes as I'd like during a game when it's not working.
But on the flip side of that, if he was to do what the likes of Carl wanted, we'd probably finish mid table. And then pep would be sacked. And then Carl would be happy.
Hang on...
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