Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

[patrickblue]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Agree with all that 100%.

City fans have been spoilt rotten and a lot have turned into what we all despised about rag fans, a huge sense of entitlement.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Our possession stats are 65% this season compared with 62% last season.

2024/25 (Full)3861.7%Dominant but dipped in key losses (e.g., vs. Arsenal/Utd counters). Led PL teams.

2025/26 (So Far)965.2%Up slightly; e.g., 68% vs. Villa (despite the loss), 72% in derby

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Agree with all that 100%.

City fans have been spoilt rotten and a lot have turned into what we all despised about rag fans, a huge sense of entitlement.

You may agree with it but the possession part is wrong....we have more possession this season than last..so far.

[stupot]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Agree with all that 100%.

City fans have been spoilt rotten and a lot have turned into what we all despised about rag fans, a huge sense of entitlement.

You may agree with it but the possession part is wrong....we have more possession this season than last..so far.

Got more points in the equivalent games as well.

[PeterParker]

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

I can speak only for myself. We've finally been on a run, not playing amazingly, but winning and he goes and changes the setup. Not in an easier game at home, but in one of the most difficult away games of the season.
For me, it is a handful of decisions that happened too many times, that are obvious that will bite our ass and at some point they became too much for me.

Our game is pretty much the same in the last 20 meters. The same players are scared to shoot in favourable positions.
It feels that we are rarely beaten by teams that are better than us on the pitch and not by something we did. And that's a problem.

[sheblue]

The team is changing the squad is changing, the style of play has changed drastically. Of course there are going to be losses along the way, we will loose more games dont be shocked by it. Stand firm, keep rattler in pram.

[Blue Jam]

Pep is past his best.
But sub optimal Pep is better than a sub optimal replacement.
B sub optimal, i dont just mean the wrong person. I also mean the right person at the wrong time.
I have faith that this is how our owners view it.

[Outcast]

Said it for a long time, get Glasner ASAP.

[Im_Spartacus]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Our possession stats are 65% this season compared with 62% last season.

2024/25 (Full)3861.7%Dominant but dipped in key losses (e.g., vs. Arsenal/Utd counters). Led PL teams.

2025/26 (So Far)965.2%Up slightly; e.g., 68% vs. Villa (despite the loss), 72% in derby

That's odd, because Statmuse agrees with your 61.7 for the last year, but suggests we're currently at 58.1% current season.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/manches ... eason?l=pl

I guess beyond the numbers my perspective is more that we're much more likely to wallop a punt down the pitch for someone to run onto than just endlessly fuck around on the edge of our own box from the keeper, we also seem more open to losing posession more this season which is a reflection that the team are getting a bit more freedom rather than keep possession at all costs - and this is what people wanted right?

While there's no question there was a regression vs villa, I suspect we're likely to 'revert to type' a fair bit this year when we hit a very well organised team, and Villa have been a struggle for us generally in recent years under their current manager.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Our possession stats are 65% this season compared with 62% last season.

2024/25 (Full)3861.7%Dominant but dipped in key losses (e.g., vs. Arsenal/Utd counters). Led PL teams.

2025/26 (So Far)965.2%Up slightly; e.g., 68% vs. Villa (despite the loss), 72% in derby

That's odd, because Statmuse agrees with your 61.7 for the last year, but suggests we're currently at 58.1% current season.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/manches ... eason?l=pl

I guess beyond the numbers my perspective is more that we're much more likely to wallop a punt down the pitch for someone to run onto than just endlessly fuck around on the edge of our own box from the keeper, we also seem more open to losing posession more this season which is a reflection that the team are getting a bit more freedom rather than keep possession at all costs - and this is what people wanted right?

While there's no question there was a regression vs villa, I suspect we're likely to 'revert to type' a fair bit this year when we hit a very well organised team, and Villa have been a struggle for us generally in recent years under their current manager.

The reality is Pep got extremely lucky with the squad he inherited—on top of the great players he brought in—and they all gelled perfectly with his system. They had the talent, skill, and football IQ to execute exactly what he demanded.
We’ve simply replaced them with players that aren’t at the same level (and probably never will be). Possession football is the one thing we haven’t lost (although various stats on this are contradictory) , but we’ve definitely lost the art of proper wing play and midfield has never recovered - Thank fuck goalscoring isn’t a problem (even if we are a one man team so far !) —otherwise we’d be nowhere near the top of the table.

[Im_Spartacus]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Our possession stats are 65% this season compared with 62% last season.

2024/25 (Full)3861.7%Dominant but dipped in key losses (e.g., vs. Arsenal/Utd counters). Led PL teams.

2025/26 (So Far)965.2%Up slightly; e.g., 68% vs. Villa (despite the loss), 72% in derby

That's odd, because Statmuse agrees with your 61.7 for the last year, but suggests we're currently at 58.1% current season.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/manches ... eason?l=pl

I guess beyond the numbers my perspective is more that we're much more likely to wallop a punt down the pitch for someone to run onto than just endlessly fuck around on the edge of our own box from the keeper, we also seem more open to losing posession more this season which is a reflection that the team are getting a bit more freedom rather than keep possession at all costs - and this is what people wanted right?

While there's no question there was a regression vs villa, I suspect we're likely to 'revert to type' a fair bit this year when we hit a very well organised team, and Villa have been a struggle for us generally in recent years under their current manager.

The reality is Pep got extremely lucky with the squad he inherited—on top of the great players he brought in—and they all gelled perfectly with his system. They had the talent, skill, and football IQ to execute exactly what he demanded.
We’ve simply replaced them with players that aren’t at the same level (and probably never will be). Possession football is the one thing we haven’t lost (although various stats on this are contradictory) , but we’ve definitely lost the art of proper wing play and midfield has never recovered - Thank fuck goalscoring isn’t a problem (even if we are a one man team so far !) —otherwise we’d be nowhere near the top of the table.

I think the biggest risk is the one you mentioned......without Haaland right now, we're fucked. But we've all been moaning for us to play to his strengths, and to be fair that's what we've done this season (aside from shit service from the wings barring Doku), we're fucked if he's out though. I don't see any solution there - personally I'd be signing a backup in Jan

[Nickyboy]

I don't understand people saying that he's not prepared to change anything, when we've given up a lot of possession and been playing a completely different way since the August international break.

While villa may have been a hard watch, I'm sure were were forced back to that default sideways passing because villa had their shit together and kept Haaland quiet, while I think I speak for most in saying that the sooner Savinho is rotated back out of the team the better. I hope he comes good - but he is not at the standard required right now.

Is this how its going to be now with city fans every time we lose a game?

Losing the odd game may be healthy in the short term as it stops Guardiola regressing long term to his old ways.

Our possession stats are 65% this season compared with 62% last season.

2024/25 (Full)3861.7%Dominant but dipped in key losses (e.g., vs. Arsenal/Utd counters). Led PL teams.

2025/26 (So Far)965.2%Up slightly; e.g., 68% vs. Villa (despite the loss), 72% in derby

That's odd, because Statmuse agrees with your 61.7 for the last year, but suggests we're currently at 58.1% current season.
https://www.statmuse.com/fc/ask/manches ... eason?l=pl

I guess beyond the numbers my perspective is more that we're much more likely to wallop a punt down the pitch for someone to run onto than just endlessly fuck around on the edge of our own box from the keeper, we also seem more open to losing posession more this season which is a reflection that the team are getting a bit more freedom rather than keep possession at all costs - and this is what people wanted right?

While there's no question there was a regression vs villa, I suspect we're likely to 'revert to type' a fair bit this year when we hit a very well organised team, and Villa have been a struggle for us generally in recent years under their current manager.

The reality is Pep got extremely lucky with the squad he inherited—on top of the great players he brought in—and they all gelled perfectly with his system. They had the talent, skill, and football IQ to execute exactly what he demanded.
We’ve simply replaced them with players that aren’t at the same level (and probably never will be). Possession football is the one thing we haven’t lost (although various stats on this are contradictory) , but we’ve definitely lost the art of proper wing play and midfield has never recovered - Thank fuck goalscoring isn’t a problem (even if we are a one man team so far !) —otherwise we’d be nowhere near the top of the table.

I think the biggest risk is the one you mentioned......without Haaland right now, we're fucked. But we've all been moaning for us to play to his strengths, and to be fair that's what we've done this season (aside from shit service from the wings barring Doku), we're fucked if he's out though. I don't see any solution there - personally I'd be signing a backup in Jan

scored 3 without him last night and Marmoosh who is the backup was rusty as fuck (kept tripping over the ball) - we'll be fine once he gets back up to speed - last season plenty of the voices claiming we're a one man team were screaming from the rooftops to drop Haaland as it was like playing with 10 men - one extreme to another with no balance or rational thinking - got to love football, turns the sanest of us absolutely mental

[stupot]

Some of those same voices when we won when he was injured were saying Haaland shouldn't get his place back when he was fit again.
Some of them said his stats were deteriorating.

[Mase]

Some of those same voices when we won when he was injured were saying Haaland shouldn't get his place back when he was fit again.
Some of them said his stats were deteriorating.

His stats were worse last season compared with the seasons before...

So id imagine when they said it his stats were deteriorating

The difference between last season and this season, with him, is massive!

[stupot]

Some of those same voices when we won when he was injured were saying Haaland shouldn't get his place back when he was fit again.
Some of them said his stats were deteriorating.

His stats were worse last season compared with the seasons before...

So id imagine when they said it his stats were deteriorating

The difference between last season and this season, with him, is massive!

It was being said as if he was deteriorating as a player.
He scored 22 in 31 last season compared to 27 in 31 the season before when the season before he had Rodri at his B'Alon Dor best and a much better Kev.
The midfield looks loads better this season already and it's no coincidence he's getting more chances.With a fully firing Cherki that should get even better

[Blue2]

Be careful what you wish for. Who would we get to replace the best manager we have ever had?

[sheblue]

I dont agree he has to go at the end of the season, but would not be surprised if he did. Long way to go yet, anything can happen in this game.

[Crossie]

I wanted us to get Alonso before this summers rebuild. We missed that boat.

Against Villa he has Stones stepping into midfield Aka 2023 and Nunes and tightens being asked to be a right winger. Leaves us with a CB and “left back” when we lose possession, which we do a hell of a lot more since we got old, lost Silva & then lost DeBryne

We’ve got some fantastic players, fast, exciting, skilful but we’re not set up right. We could be strolling it this season. Arsenal would/will melt if we’re within 5 points come May.

The FA Cup final v palace was a fantastic summary of modern Pep. Just remember how we all felt after that game. Nothing has really changed.

Thanks Pep, you mean everything. I don’t think it’ll all ever be beaten, you did it. Now please go have a rest and let someone else have a go.

[Mase]

Some of those same voices when we won when he was injured were saying Haaland shouldn't get his place back when he was fit again.
Some of them said his stats were deteriorating.

His stats were worse last season compared with the seasons before...

So id imagine when they said it his stats were deteriorating

The difference between last season and this season, with him, is massive!

It was being said as if he was deteriorating as a player.
He scored 22 in 31 last season compared to 27 in 31 the season before when the season before he had Rodri at his B'Alon Dor best and a much better Kev.
The midfield looks loads better this season already and it's no coincidence he's getting more chances.With a fully firing Cherki that should get even better

Cherki and Haaland is surely a match made in heaven. Very excited to see them together

[Indianablue]

As my title says, Pep has to go at the end of this Season.

We are winning fuck all this year. It will be a miracle if we do.

We are a right fucking mess. The Football has become dire, like really dire, boring slow insipid shit every game, no exceptions. Even wins have become difficult to watch. The players resemble over coached Robots. Any individuality and spontaneity coached out of them, to play a system that never works against decent sides. It is terrible. You take Halland Donnarumma out of our side you are looking at a team that would not even make top 6.We all know it.

There were times during Sunday game at Villa i was not even sure what Pep game plan was to begin with. It was like watching Under 8s. Literally no midfield against an average side who play on the counter for over an Hour. It was insane, he has set us up like this before, notably against the Rags in a Derby at the Swamp, when we should have been 4-0 down at half time. It defies belief a Manager on £10,000 000 a Season can only come up with a game plan that actually plays to opponents strengths.

Our fitness has become another major issue for me. I think we spend that much time in training doing only slow walking football passing drills it has been neglected. Any side with a bit of intensity we fold like a Deck Chair, we can not compete, we are physically unable to do so.

We let Pep Head the major rebuild before he walks off in to the distance to go Golfing. Look at the State of all the signings he has made, not cheap either. And still even now no recognised Right Back, still he fucks about with the defence moving players left and Right. I have a theory he deliberately doesn't sign any recognised Left/Right Back so he can feed his desire to fuck about rotating players in to those positions. When we win it is his genius. Pep refusing £70,000 000 from Spurs for Savinho,( let that sink in). Literally 99% of City fans can see the Guy is shit. Now Pep plays him out of spite to try and prove he knows better than everyone else. He literally produces nothing. Echeveri should be here and Savinho at Pep Brother Club, Pep brother doesn't want Duds obviously.

We have the Rodri issue still going on. Sadly he will likely never recover enough to return to what he was because of that type of injury. Not like it didn't fuck last season up for us. Yet still a Season later all we have is Gonzalez. How the fuck does a top Tier Manager allow this to even happen ?

I have mentioned before that People connected to the Club have said it has all become very un professional after once being envied globally, Jobs for the Guys sort of set up. We even managed to bring in a worse set piece Coach than the last( that took some fucking doing).

Talk of us giving Pep a shit load of the Etihad Sponsorship in January, after giving him a shit load in the last 2,3, transfer Windows that have all turned in to "Ones for the future" the terminology used to define bad signings. That would be the worst mistake we could make at this stage. It could put us in the wilderness for 10 years.

Our problem now is a Manager and system whose best days have come and gone. Throwing more money at the problem will not solve the bigger issues we have going on at the Club. And to be honest Pep is incompetent in the transfer Market. We can not trust him with our future anymore. We are going to need a "Fire Sale" when he goes.

All good things come to an end, we will all be forever grateful for the success Pep delivered. Now is the time though to say thanks for the memories Pep. We need to move in a different direction for the good of the Club. The Decline actually started in our last Title winning season. We saw that standards had begun to drop that Season, the recruitment had become bad. The system was being countered much more effectively by the top teams. Last Season it got much worse. I think we need to prepare our selves for the first Season in over 10 years where i think the Rags might actually finish higher than us in the League. That will come as a bit of a shock to some. It is where we are likely to be at after.3 Seasons of dropping standards. No room for sentimentality living on past Glory in Football.


We can not go another season of this shit insipid football, we need major changes.

Starting with the Manager.

100%. Except for Savinho. I think he's decent but hasnt been used correctly. Still fairly young . Most of our players have had their spark taken away by our arrogant manager