Lots of empty seats

[CBEM]

Around the grounds yesterday and at the Derby-Leeds game today, are we getting too saturated with games and the cost of actually attending the games.

Throw in a crap public transport service and we aren't doing too well.

[nottsblue]

Most clubs are putting out second string sides. Not a surprise there is seemingly less demand for fans to part with their hard earned.

But absolutely, I agree football probably has reached saturation point. Both with the number of games televised and the relentless media coverage. I mean look at the rags sacking Amorim. All week there has been endless articles and podcasts and interviews about it all. Stuff about Utds DNA FFS. Similar with Chelsea albeit on a smaller scale. And the hounding job they are doing on Frank at Spurs is disgraceful

My mate coaches an under 16 side in Nottingham and only 1 of the lads there regularly goes to games, Notts County as it goes, and a couple more go to a couple of games a season. Where are the next generation of fans who go to games coming from? Football is no longer a working man’s game and though it’s the in thing for a lot of tourists lately, that will eventually dry up.

There are so many other things young lads and lasses can spend their money and time on these days and football at the moment is a very expensive one. We probably won’t go back to literally half empty stadiums we saw in the 80s but the bubble isn’t getting much bigger before popping

[CBEM]

They attracted tourists and they expect the local fans to fill the stadium when the tourists don't want the not so big games, just using us as an example ( And we are not alone in this) the Brighton match is a damning indictment of the premier leagues ambition to squeeze local fans out and replace them with one off visitors who will hit the club shop hard.

Offering those Brighton tickets out and still not selling them is due to what you rightly mention, they are not catching the imagination of younger fans and those younger fans can't get affordable regular tickets to catch the City bug.

[Indianablue]

Initial round games for the Prem and Championship sides are often dead rubbers, There might be a couple of upsets but largely the games run to form . Lower league fans attend and the top tier fans don't , in the same numbers .

Added that you can watch live games on Terrestial tv and the weather was shit for large parts of the country then you have ticket spares,

Yesterdays game was one of the few for me where tickets are on general sale but i chose not to go , save some money and watch it at home on the box, Away next weekend down in Christchurch and a few big bills coming up meant i was fairly happen to stay at home

[CBEM]

Initial round games for the Prem and Championship sides are often dead rubbers, There might be a couple of upsets but largely the games run to form . Lower league fans attend and the top tier fans don't , in the same numbers .

Added that you can watch live games on Terrestial tv and the weather was shit for large parts of the country then you have ticket spares,

Yesterdays game was one of the few for me where tickets are on general sale but i chose not to go , save some money and watch it at home on the box, Away next weekend down in Christchurch and a few big bills coming up meant i was fairly happen to stay at home

We couldn't sell the Brighton tickets, it isn't just the FA cup there are many games where us and other clubs (Most really) are stuggling to sell because they priced out younger legacy fans who have no connection to the club any more.

[Nick]

Kids dsy out in 110 the "standing" area yesterday. All squeeling in southern accent for haaland to say hi

[ashton287]

Its not 100% the cost. Its ease of access.

I used to be able to walk up to a window outside the stadium an hour before kick off, where city square is now (absolute pile of dogshit).

They would turn the screen around so you could see the options, choose a seat, give them actual real money. Then go enjoy the game. Fucking simple. This developed into a season ticket and then a season ticket for my son when je was born It builds on the easy entry point.

If you could do that. There would be less empty seats regardless of the game size.

The blocker now is its meant to be simpler but its not, its just cost effective. Cost effectiveness (no human input/interaction) makes the whole thing sterile and you dont feel part of anything anymore.

Every game that has empty seats has thousands of fans that want to attend who just cant be arsed with this bullshit. You cant buy certain tickets unless you have bought previous depending on the comp. Must have x membership OR you can go to a scalp, call them what you want. Resellers are fucking scalpers and who wants to deal with those scumbag rats and their fees.

They make it clear they dont want fans at the stadium so fans dont bother. The club sold out, we are a corporate business with no need for fans, just revenue. Its a symptom of success and its sad.

[john@staustell]

Its not 100% the cost. Its ease of access.

I used to be able to walk up to a window outside the stadium an hour before kick off, where city square is now (absolute pile of dogshit).

They would turn the screen around so you could see the options, choose a seat, give them actual real money. Then go enjoy the game. Fucking simple. This developed into a season ticket and then a season ticket for my son when je was born It builds on the easy entry point.

If you could do that. There would be less empty seats regardless of the game size.

The blocker now is its meant to be simpler but its not, its just cost effective. Cost effectiveness (no human input/interaction) makes the whole thing sterile and you dont feel part of anything anymore.

Every game that has empty seats has thousands of fans that want to attend who just cant be arsed with this bullshit. You cant buy certain tickets unless you have bought previous depending on the comp. Must have x membership OR you can go to a scalp, call them what you want. Resellers are fucking scalpers and who wants to deal with those scumbag rats and their fees.

They make it clear they dont want fans at the stadium so fans dont bother. The club sold out, we are a corporate business with no need for fans, just revenue. Its a symptom of success and its sad.

I don't go up anymore. It's partly because my eyes aren't so good on the roads in the dark (we had STs in the 90s). But it's also because they stopped you choosing which seats you bought a couple of years ago.

I used to choose a pair nice and high up, next to an aisle because we had a few sherberts (not so much me). Hate pushing past everyone to have a pee

Then they decided that the seats would be automatically allocated, or by some bod.

I don't know if they've changed it, but that's what stopped us.

My son, a member for life, was going to take his partner up - but they randomly and unilaterally cancelled his tickets for the Plymouth Argyle match - because he (we) have PL postcodes.

One of their excuses was that he had always been a member on mine, not in his own right.

So they can do one basically and others must have similar tales like yourself