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Re: Haaland

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Mar 14, 2026 12:57 pm

zuricity wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Haaland is a goal machine. However, without doubt our managers DNA and it will never change is to retain possession, Haaland thrives on no look service, by that I mean as MF Player you know Where he’ll be so hit.
that space he will do the rest, In Madrid first 15 mins when Doku was flashing balls across the goal he was on his heels. It’s a tough one having a pop at him, but he’s judged by his goals. That said if Doku plays Sav may as well sit on the roof, fucking mind blowing how he gets away with his selfish actions. Twice if he had gambled in that first period he had tap ins, Mendy owned him, bullied him and ruined him.
Sterling and Sane would have had a couple of goals. Savinho is not helping us get the best from Erling IMHO.


The whole point of using wingers is to get the ball into the box asap for one or two attackers to run onto. Doku seems not to understand that , rather he thinks it is ok to completely stop the ball and wait a few seconds. This enables the masses to get back and cover. Even if he does get to the line and play the ball back it goes across a completely blocked and crowded area. Rarely , as with Semenyo recently does a clean cross get played across the lines.


Doku delivered in Madrid for 20 mins, we were on our heels in the box. Saviniho is just a waste of a shirt. Weak head down. Mendy had as easy a night he will ever get. All this said Pep and his coaches made us look like we did 10 years ago in the CL clueless.
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Re: Haaland

Postby zuricity » Sat Mar 14, 2026 1:00 pm

Doku delivered once and that was it. Instead of passing he ran several times and lost the ball , out of control. Thereafter , ( first goal) he went missing.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Indianablue » Sat Mar 14, 2026 2:54 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Haaland is a goal machine. However, without doubt our managers DNA and it will never change is to retain possession, Haaland thrives on no look service, by that I mean as MF Player you know Where he’ll be so hit.
that space he will do the rest, In Madrid first 15 mins when Doku was flashing balls across the goal he was on his heels. It’s a tough one having a pop at him, but he’s judged by his goals. That said if Doku plays Sav may as well sit on the roof, fucking mind blowing how he gets away with his selfish actions. Twice if he had gambled in that first period he had tap ins, Mendy owned him, bullied him and ruined him.
Sterling and Sane would have had a couple of goals. Savinho is not helping us get the best from Erling IMHO.


The whole point of using wingers is to get the ball into the box asap for one or two attackers to run onto. Doku seems not to understand that , rather he thinks it is ok to completely stop the ball and wait a few seconds. This enables the masses to get back and cover. Even if he does get to the line and play the ball back it goes across a completely blocked and crowded area. Rarely , as with Semenyo recently does a clean cross get played across the lines.


Doku delivered in Madrid for 20 mins, we were on our heels in the box. Saviniho is just a waste of a shirt. Weak head down. Mendy had as easy a night he will ever get. All this said Pep and his coaches made us look like we did 10 years ago in the CL clueless.

I'd agree he had the better of Trent Arnold, the top class defender, for the opening spell in Madrid , but nothing came of it, zilch, nada, fuckall . Then they worked out what to do and his threat was nulified . Doku needs to do a lot better. The whole team is short of players that can cross a ball well
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Re: Haaland

Postby bigblue » Tue Mar 17, 2026 10:58 pm

Recently Haaland:
- has the finishing ability of a defender
- is often a second slow in making a pass
- gets bullied by any CB who shows a little physicality
- hides from crosses in the middle or at the far post on balls that never reach him (remember how many goals Sergio scored cutting across the front post?)
- clearly looks to be saving himself for the summer with an eye to the WC

Tactics obviously don't help him at all. But it's hard to see how he makes the team better when he doesn't get involved and doesn't get a shot on target. I can do that.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Crossie » Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:58 am

I remember when our tactics were to get the ball the Peter Beagrie and he crossed it in for Quinn, who’d either had it in or had it down for Paul Walsh. They were clear simple tactics which worked well.

I can’t believe Doku is told to beat everyone, get to the byline and then pull it back into a crowd of 10 players. He’ll be told to play it fast and direct right? Surely?

Id rather Pep leave than Haaland. I’d love to see another manager get the best out of Haaland
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Re: Haaland

Postby mr_nool » Wed Mar 18, 2026 12:22 pm

Crossie wrote:I remember when our tactics were to get the ball the Peter Beagrie and he crossed it in for Quinn, who’d either had it in or had it down for Paul Walsh. They were clear simple tactics which worked well.

I can’t believe Doku is told to beat everyone, get to the byline and then pull it back into a crowd of 10 players. He’ll be told to play it fast and direct right? Surely?

Id rather Pep leave than Haaland. I’d love to see another manager get the best out of Haaland


Pep's got the best out of Haaland in the past though. Nothing says that he can't again, but then the rest of the team needs to click too. Haaland can't carry a team that's not functioning when marked out of the game.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 18, 2026 2:07 pm

I have thought for a long time Haaland s time will come to leave. Barca is what I think, Lewdowski replacement.
He’s lost the support of KDB and Foden. Without the service he has become used to, teams manhandle him as he’s static or searching for space. KDB was his dream teammate.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Nickyboy » Wed Mar 18, 2026 2:26 pm

Hazy2 wrote:I have thought for a long time Haaland s time will come to leave. Barca is what I think, Lewdowski replacement.
He’s lost the support of KDB and Foden. Without the service he has become used to, teams manhandle him as he’s static or searching for space. KDB was his dream teammate.


I still think Haaland and Cherki need to 100% click on the field. There is potential there for them to be as potent as he was with KDB.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 18, 2026 3:44 pm

Nickyboy wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:I have thought for a long time Haaland s time will come to leave. Barca is what I think, Lewdowski replacement.
He’s lost the support of KDB and Foden. Without the service he has become used to, teams manhandle him as he’s static or searching for space. KDB was his dream teammate.


I still think Haaland and Cherki need to 100% click on the field. There is potential there for them to be as potent as he was with KDB.


Love Cherki. KDB was born to serve, his ability to be the final pass even when the shot was on, Haaland was spoilt.what is going on with Foden needs addressing.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 18, 2026 3:59 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:I have thought for a long time Haaland s time will come to leave. Barca is what I think, Lewdowski replacement.
He’s lost the support of KDB and Foden. Without the service he has become used to, teams manhandle him as he’s static or searching for space. KDB was his dream teammate.


I still think Haaland and Cherki need to 100% click on the field. There is potential there for them to be as potent as he was with KDB.


Love Cherki. KDB was born to serve, his ability to be the final pass even when the shot was on, Haaland was spoilt.what is going on with Foden needs addressing.


The fact we needed a key to unlock them last night and Foden wasn't even a consideration, speaks volumes to where his head and form is currently.

I hope he gets it sorted asap because he is a match winner when he's on his game
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Re: Haaland

Postby Nickyboy » Wed Mar 18, 2026 4:45 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:I have thought for a long time Haaland s time will come to leave. Barca is what I think, Lewdowski replacement.
He’s lost the support of KDB and Foden. Without the service he has become used to, teams manhandle him as he’s static or searching for space. KDB was his dream teammate.


I still think Haaland and Cherki need to 100% click on the field. There is potential there for them to be as potent as he was with KDB.


Love Cherki. KDB was born to serve, his ability to be the final pass even when the shot was on, Haaland was spoilt.what is going on with Foden needs addressing.


The fact we needed a key to unlock them last night and Foden wasn't even a consideration, speaks volumes to where his head and form is currently.

I hope he gets it sorted asap because he is a match winner when he's on his game


Cherki, Foden and Nico G seemed to be developing a real understanding and were linking up brilliantly and then all 3 dropped out the starting XI - Hopefully after last nights performance Pep sees Cherki needs to start every match!
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Re: Haaland

Postby bigblue » Wed Mar 18, 2026 5:54 pm

Even if Cherki & Foden start delivering chances to Haaland, his finishing has to vastly improve. He's always missed a lot of chances even when Kev was feeding him loads. For a striker like Haaland to be considered world class, it should be assumed that he finishes any 1v1 that he gets. But sadly that just not the case
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Re: Haaland

Postby Indianablue » Wed Mar 18, 2026 6:30 pm

bigblue wrote:Recently Haaland:
- has the finishing ability of a defender
- is often a second slow in making a pass
- gets bullied by any CB who shows a little physicality
- hides from crosses in the middle or at the far post on balls that never reach him (remember how many goals Sergio scored cutting across the front post?)
- clearly looks to be saving himself for the summer with an eye to the WC

Tactics obviously don't help him at all. But it's hard to see how he makes the team better when he doesn't get involved and doesn't get a shot on target. I can do that.


Agree with all this
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Re: Haaland

Postby zuricity » Wed Mar 18, 2026 8:27 pm

Indianablue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Haaland is a goal machine. However, without doubt our managers DNA and it will never change is to retain possession, Haaland thrives on no look service, by that I mean as MF Player you know Where he’ll be so hit.
that space he will do the rest, In Madrid first 15 mins when Doku was flashing balls across the goal he was on his heels. It’s a tough one having a pop at him, but he’s judged by his goals. That said if Doku plays Sav may as well sit on the roof, fucking mind blowing how he gets away with his selfish actions. Twice if he had gambled in that first period he had tap ins, Mendy owned him, bullied him and ruined him.
Sterling and Sane would have had a couple of goals. Savinho is not helping us get the best from Erling IMHO.


The whole point of using wingers is to get the ball into the box asap for one or two attackers to run onto. Doku seems not to understand that , rather he thinks it is ok to completely stop the ball and wait a few seconds. This enables the masses to get back and cover. Even if he does get to the line and play the ball back it goes across a completely blocked and crowded area. Rarely , as with Semenyo recently does a clean cross get played across the lines.


Doku delivered in Madrid for 20 mins, we were on our heels in the box. Saviniho is just a waste of a shirt. Weak head down. Mendy had as easy a night he will ever get. All this said Pep and his coaches made us look like we did 10 years ago in the CL clueless.

I'd agree he had the better of Trent Arnold, the top class defender, for the opening spell in Madrid , but nothing came of it, zilch, nada, fuckall . Then they worked out what to do and his threat was nulified . Doku needs to do a lot better. The whole team is short of players that can cross a ball well


They overloaded on Doku, always more than one player ready to block him.
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Re: Haaland

Postby bigblue » Wed Mar 18, 2026 10:15 pm

Indianablue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Haaland is a goal machine. However, without doubt our managers DNA and it will never change is to retain possession, Haaland thrives on no look service, by that I mean as MF Player you know Where he’ll be so hit.
that space he will do the rest, In Madrid first 15 mins when Doku was flashing balls across the goal he was on his heels. It’s a tough one having a pop at him, but he’s judged by his goals. That said if Doku plays Sav may as well sit on the roof, fucking mind blowing how he gets away with his selfish actions. Twice if he had gambled in that first period he had tap ins, Mendy owned him, bullied him and ruined him.
Sterling and Sane would have had a couple of goals. Savinho is not helping us get the best from Erling IMHO.


The whole point of using wingers is to get the ball into the box asap for one or two attackers to run onto. Doku seems not to understand that , rather he thinks it is ok to completely stop the ball and wait a few seconds. This enables the masses to get back and cover. Even if he does get to the line and play the ball back it goes across a completely blocked and crowded area. Rarely , as with Semenyo recently does a clean cross get played across the lines.


Doku delivered in Madrid for 20 mins, we were on our heels in the box. Saviniho is just a waste of a shirt. Weak head down. Mendy had as easy a night he will ever get. All this said Pep and his coaches made us look like we did 10 years ago in the CL clueless.

I'd agree he had the better of Trent Arnold, the top class defender, for the opening spell in Madrid , but nothing came of it, zilch, nada, fuckall . Then they worked out what to do and his threat was nulified . Doku needs to do a lot better. The whole team is short of players that can cross a ball well


Doku played great yesterday but the team really has to figure out why we're sending all of our crosses to the near post or into the keeper's hands when Haaland is in the center or at the far post. Until thats figured out it's going to be a lot more wasted opportunities.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 18, 2026 10:41 pm

bigblue wrote:Doku played great yesterday but the team really has to figure out why we're sending all of our crosses to the near post or into the keeper's hands when Haaland is in the center or at the far post. Until thats figured out it's going to be a lot more wasted opportunities.


This is spot on. How hard can it be? Frustrates me that we are so poor at set peices, hitting the front man so many times.

West Ham game, we had 25 shots at goal and 15 corners
West Ham had 1 attempt at goal and 1 corner.

Guess which team scored from a corner :o
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Re: Haaland

Postby nottsblue » Wed Mar 18, 2026 11:13 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
bigblue wrote:Doku played great yesterday but the team really has to figure out why we're sending all of our crosses to the near post or into the keeper's hands when Haaland is in the center or at the far post. Until thats figured out it's going to be a lot more wasted opportunities.


This is spot on. How hard can it be? Frustrates me that we are so poor at set peices, hitting the front man so many times.

West Ham game, we had 25 shots at goal and 15 corners
West Ham had 1 attempt at goal and 1 corner.

Guess which team scored from a corner :o

Our record on corners is one of my biggest bugbears and I know I’m not alone in this. Fairly sure it annoys Hants(?) as well and many others.

For a professional who is deemed good enough to play for one of the best teams in the country and who is paid more money in a fortnight than most of us will earn in a lifetime, to consistently fail to beat the first man is nothing short of scandalous. It’s literally a free cross. And the habit of short corners is just pathetic
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Re: Haaland

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Mar 19, 2026 9:00 am

The Premier League historically find collective solutions. This season it’s grappling, time wasting and long throws. Haaland of his debut at West Ham to today. His cards marked, focus of the weeks planning. He has no tools himself to counter this. Foden I thought would have the stage to become our 10/8 with Rodri and Nico holding the middle. His future is in his hands, watching him struggle is a mystery that needs solving. To beat Arsenal on Sunday passive will not be enough.
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Re: Haaland

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Mar 19, 2026 10:13 am

Hazy2 wrote:The Premier League historically find collective solutions. This season it’s grappling, time wasting and long throws. Haaland of his debut at West Ham to today. His cards marked, focus of the weeks planning. He has no tools himself to counter this. Foden I thought would have the stage to become our 10/8 with Rodri and Nico holding the middle. His future is in his hands, watching him struggle is a mystery that needs solving. To beat Arsenal on Sunday passive will not be enough.


Remember the last time the premier league said they were going to clamp down on the corner issues with the blocking and grappling in the box?

The game against Stoke City on August 20, 2016.
That was the very beginning of the 2016/17 season, it was the exact weekend the Premier League and the PGMOL introduced a new "clamping down" directive on grappling and holding in the box during set-pieces.
The Incident:
The Match: Stoke City vs. Manchester City at the Bet365 Stadium.
The Foul: During a Stoke corner, Raheem Sterling was marking Ryan Shawcross. As the ball came in, Sterling was caught looking at the ball while having his arm across Shawcross to impede his run.
The Penalty: Referee Mike Dean (who became the face of this crackdown that month) pointed to the spot immediately.

I cannot remember this being enforced again all season after this was given.
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Re: Haaland

Postby nottsblue » Thu Mar 19, 2026 10:26 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:The Premier League historically find collective solutions. This season it’s grappling, time wasting and long throws. Haaland of his debut at West Ham to today. His cards marked, focus of the weeks planning. He has no tools himself to counter this. Foden I thought would have the stage to become our 10/8 with Rodri and Nico holding the middle. His future is in his hands, watching him struggle is a mystery that needs solving. To beat Arsenal on Sunday passive will not be enough.


Remember the last time the premier league said they were going to clamp down on the corner issues with the blocking and grappling in the box?

The game against Stoke City on August 20, 2016.
That was the very beginning of the 2016/17 season, it was the exact weekend the Premier League and the PGMOL introduced a new "clamping down" directive on grappling and holding in the box during set-pieces.
The Incident:
The Match: Stoke City vs. Manchester City at the Bet365 Stadium.
The Foul: During a Stoke corner, Raheem Sterling was marking Ryan Shawcross. As the ball came in, Sterling was caught looking at the ball while having his arm across Shawcross to impede his run.
The Penalty: Referee Mike Dean (who became the face of this crackdown that month) pointed to the spot immediately.

I cannot remember this being enforced again all season after this was given.

Still recall that to this day WW
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