PeterParker wrote:Brilliant read about Fabrizio Romano and all these snakes
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Nickyboy wrote:PeterParker wrote:Brilliant read about Fabrizio Romano and all these snakes
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Please don't pollute this site with links to Nick Harris' slop.
I really hope the club end him after the 115 case is settled.

Wonderwall wrote:city72 wrote:Harry Dowd scored wrote:Oh dear we are the most boring & Arsenal most ugly
This is the depressing truth: The Premier League will be won by the country's ugliest team... or the most boring, writes JEFF POWELL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... OWELL.html
We are boring, first instinct back or sideways passing, we can turn a corner into a back pass to the keeper
It's probing and looking for an opening or working a plan to isolate someone. Why would we just try a stupid Hollywood pass every time and consistently turn over the ball.
I get the slow build up play can frustrate and sometimes we have an opportunity to break at pace and don't do it, but that doesn't mean we are boring
Indianablue wrote:Wonderwall wrote:city72 wrote:Harry Dowd scored wrote:Oh dear we are the most boring & Arsenal most ugly
This is the depressing truth: The Premier League will be won by the country's ugliest team... or the most boring, writes JEFF POWELL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... OWELL.html
We are boring, first instinct back or sideways passing, we can turn a corner into a back pass to the keeper
It's probing and looking for an opening or working a plan to isolate someone. Why would we just try a stupid Hollywood pass every time and consistently turn over the ball.
I get the slow build up play can frustrate and sometimes we have an opportunity to break at pace and don't do it, but that doesn't mean we are boring
No doubt you can watch 'keep me ups' for hours on an end and not fall asleep.
I think its a fair cop to call us boring, might not be the most boring but 9 times out of 10 we play slow boring stuff . Only a handful of games this season have excited and they are the ones where we have forgotten the usual Pep formulaic pattern of play

Indianablue wrote:Wonderwall wrote:city72 wrote:Harry Dowd scored wrote:Oh dear we are the most boring & Arsenal most ugly
This is the depressing truth: The Premier League will be won by the country's ugliest team... or the most boring, writes JEFF POWELL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... OWELL.html
We are boring, first instinct back or sideways passing, we can turn a corner into a back pass to the keeper
It's probing and looking for an opening or working a plan to isolate someone. Why would we just try a stupid Hollywood pass every time and consistently turn over the ball.
I get the slow build up play can frustrate and sometimes we have an opportunity to break at pace and don't do it, but that doesn't mean we are boring
No doubt you can watch 'keep me ups' for hours on an end and not fall asleep.
I think its a fair cop to call us boring, might not be the most boring but 9 times out of 10 we play slow boring stuff . Only a handful of games this season have excited and they are the ones where we have forgotten the usual Pep formulaic pattern of play


Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:Wonderwall wrote:city72 wrote:Harry Dowd scored wrote:Oh dear we are the most boring & Arsenal most ugly
This is the depressing truth: The Premier League will be won by the country's ugliest team... or the most boring, writes JEFF POWELL
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... OWELL.html
We are boring, first instinct back or sideways passing, we can turn a corner into a back pass to the keeper
It's probing and looking for an opening or working a plan to isolate someone. Why would we just try a stupid Hollywood pass every time and consistently turn over the ball.
I get the slow build up play can frustrate and sometimes we have an opportunity to break at pace and don't do it, but that doesn't mean we are boring
No doubt you can watch 'keep me ups' for hours on an end and not fall asleep.
I think its a fair cop to call us boring, might not be the most boring but 9 times out of 10 we play slow boring stuff . Only a handful of games this season have excited and they are the ones where we have forgotten the usual Pep formulaic pattern of play
Maybe I just see that there wasn't a pass on, maybe watching the games in the stadium helps you to see how the play unfolds and why they didn't try the Hollywood pass.
I do get that sometimes it's the right pass to make and they don't do it, which is frustrating. However, some fans seem hell bent on focusing on the negatives and are never happy unless things are perfect.
That to me is strange, if you want perfect, don't watch football. If you want to be excited, go and support whoever spurs are playing.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Here he is again...Nothing says "die-hard City fan" like lecturing people to go support Spurs opponents if they want fucking entertainment - considering we turned up at their place this season, went 2-0 up… then fucked it up..nothing entertaining from us then, was there!! !
And to bite back at you ...some fans seem to focus on the positives and completely ignore the negatives.......this is why we have a fucking message board to discuss / argue what we personally see.
Keep preaching though.

Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches

Wonderwall wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Here he is again...Nothing says "die-hard City fan" like lecturing people to go support Spurs opponents if they want fucking entertainment - considering we turned up at their place this season, went 2-0 up… then fucked it up..nothing entertaining from us then, was there!! !
And to bite back at you ...some fans seem to focus on the positives and completely ignore the negatives.......this is why we have a fucking message board to discuss / argue what we personally see.
Keep preaching though.
Someone's on their period. Stop being an immature tool and try to act normal for a change FFS. The spurs comment was tongue in cheek, a bit of fun, maybe you should try it after your anger management therapy.

Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.
Just because I like to argue - TV doesn’t just ‘follow the ball’ at all !! It actually gives you multiple simultaneous angles that you simply cannot replicate watching it live from your little fucking seat in the stands.
At the stadium, you’re stuck with one fixed angle and that’s if your paying attention fo 90 mins , no matter how good the fucking elevation is, you can’t zoom in on anyone or rewind to see if a foul was really a dive. If something happens at the far end, even in tier 2/3, details get lost without binoculars, and you miss the facial expressions, the precision of passes, or obvious fouls that the broadcast highlights instantly.
Pros and cons on both but you certainly get more detail watching on live TV than in the stands , no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.
Just because I like to argue - TV doesn’t just ‘follow the ball’ at all !! It actually gives you multiple simultaneous angles that you simply cannot replicate watching it live from your little fucking seat in the stands.
At the stadium, you’re stuck with one fixed angle and that’s if your paying attention fo 90 mins , no matter how good the fucking elevation is, you can’t zoom in on anyone or rewind to see if a foul was really a dive. If something happens at the far end, even in tier 2/3, details get lost without binoculars, and you miss the facial expressions, the precision of passes, or obvious fouls that the broadcast highlights instantly.
Pros and cons on both but you certainly get more detail watching on live TV than in the stands , no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.
Just because I like to argue - TV doesn’t just ‘follow the ball’ at all !! It actually gives you multiple simultaneous angles that you simply cannot replicate watching it live from your little fucking seat in the stands.
At the stadium, you’re stuck with one fixed angle and that’s if your paying attention fo 90 mins , no matter how good the fucking elevation is, you can’t zoom in on anyone or rewind to see if a foul was really a dive. If something happens at the far end, even in tier 2/3, details get lost without binoculars, and you miss the facial expressions, the precision of passes, or obvious fouls that the broadcast highlights instantly.
Pros and cons on both but you certainly get more detail watching on live TV than in the stands , no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
zuricity wrote:There is an awful lot you dont see on tv when writing reams and reams of notes during a match on web sites.

Wonderwall wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.
Just because I like to argue - TV doesn’t just ‘follow the ball’ at all !! It actually gives you multiple simultaneous angles that you simply cannot replicate watching it live from your little fucking seat in the stands.
At the stadium, you’re stuck with one fixed angle and that’s if your paying attention fo 90 mins , no matter how good the fucking elevation is, you can’t zoom in on anyone or rewind to see if a foul was really a dive. If something happens at the far end, even in tier 2/3, details get lost without binoculars, and you miss the facial expressions, the precision of passes, or obvious fouls that the broadcast highlights instantly.
Pros and cons on both but you certainly get more detail watching on live TV than in the stands , no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
You can keep your two dimensional view that you love so much with your close up of facial expressions, coaches spitting and of course the proximity to your fridge.
The view I have is so much better than a directors cut.

Scatman wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Indianablue wrote:You might experience the atmosphere in a stadium and get to shout and sing but in this day and age, the view of a game from a TV screen, action replays, slow motion, freeze frame is far superior. Pep has drilled and trained our team to keep possession, pass it sideways or back in an effort to find a perfect opening or pass or attempt on goal . Pep frustrates because he wants perfec. The fans that criticise Pep want faster attacking play , take more shots, attempt through passes - even though its not perfect, I am not seeking perfection but i do want to be entertained. City at times just bore the arse off me and most neutrals. Even City commentators on the City match forum criticise our slow build up play in a lot of our matches.
Interesting you mentioned Spurs, a team that gupped us at our place and came from behind to get a draw when we played them away, a time when they had turned to shite and we were giving away points for fun in the second half of matches
On your point that TV is better than being at the game. It depends if all you want is to see replays and slow Mo's. I can guarantee you that sitting on the 2nd/3rd tiers at the Etihad gives a fantastic real time view of the play and the set up/formation etc, you don't get that view on TV as they follow the ball. I would argue that point all day.
Just because I like to argue - TV doesn’t just ‘follow the ball’ at all !! It actually gives you multiple simultaneous angles that you simply cannot replicate watching it live from your little fucking seat in the stands.
At the stadium, you’re stuck with one fixed angle and that’s if your paying attention fo 90 mins , no matter how good the fucking elevation is, you can’t zoom in on anyone or rewind to see if a foul was really a dive. If something happens at the far end, even in tier 2/3, details get lost without binoculars, and you miss the facial expressions, the precision of passes, or obvious fouls that the broadcast highlights instantly.
Pros and cons on both but you certainly get more detail watching on live TV than in the stands , no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
All that is true but I rarely see the same panorama on a TV that I get from sitting in the stands. I'm much more of a fan of seeing it in person because you can see the action unfolding, you can see the gaps and spaces on the pitch, and the passes that are on much more than those at home watching on TV. From where I was sitting at home I sure as hell didn't see Valverde making that run for the second goal.

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