***Transfer Rumours Thread*** [ALL RUMOUR TOPICS MERGED]

[Beefymcfc]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag?

i personally really rated Lescott - i still think he's a quality centre-half, and will have a big role to play next season. The price was extortionate though.

maybe the bad press that deal generated has led to this "hush-hush" approach we seem to be taking this summer. If this is the case, and we are now looking to play hardball maybe the price of the Lescott deal was a blessing in disguise.

I rate Lescott highly, I just think him and Toure don't work.

Its known in inner circles that the price tag and bad start shattered his confidence, but he was beginning to show his class before his injury and he will again next season IMO.

Fucling bug eyed Moyes has a large part to answer for too - I'm as close to hating someone as I've ever been over the whole way he handled Lescott and us (and nearly cost his team Europa league football)

What do you mean nearly, it did cost them a place. And who's to say that O'Neil isn't going to do the same because I'd actually suggest that to Villa, Milner is worth more than we are offering in terms of a settled team and furthering their ambitions. It's not just about the money to them, and it will be the player himself who decides if he stays or goes, a bit like the Lescott scenario.

[Dameerto]

Yup Everton finished 8th, for some reason I thought they finished 7th (all scousers sound the same to me) - so you're saying MON will start crying, throw his toys out of the pram, make Milner train on his own and deny him access to coaching staff/physio input as he delays the inevitable transfer as long as humanly possible into August while bad mouthing us at every opportunity to the press? He doesn't strike me as being one bit like Moyes. He might not like losing a player (if he comes to us) but I would say he will accept the inevitable if/when it happens and try and make the best of it for Villa rather than attempting to ruin someone's season out of spite while damaging his own team's season in the process.

[shawzy]

I rate Lescott as well but I am the first to admit that the money we spent on him was ridiculous.

Very overpriced..Just goes to show how much the owners backed MH in the transfer windows.
I do rate Lescott highly and hope hes a 1st choice.

[BobKowalski]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag? Me personally, I really do like Milner as a player, his determination, professionalism and versatility are things I like to see, but I'm not sure about him coming to us for some reason, don't know why, it just doesn't feel right. If we did get him, then I'd have no qualms whatsoever and believe he'd enhance our squad no-end, regardless of the money.

He's a very good quality all-rounder who can play in all positions, especially on the left, and with the exit doors swinging open with the loss of Petrov, and soon to be Robbie, and the fact that Bellers can't play every game, he'll become more than just a squad player.

Agreed. Milner is the one deal I want to happen. Even at £30m.

[blackburnblue]

My best mate is a Villain and in his opinion Milner is the best player in their team.HE RECKONS THERE WOULD BE A MASS REVOLT BY THEIR FANS IF HE IS ALLOWED TO LEAVE.
Surely this speaks volumes.....

[Original Dub]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag? Me personally, I really do like Milner as a player, his determination, professionalism and versatility are things I like to see, but I'm not sure about him coming to us for some reason, don't know why, it just doesn't feel right. If we did get him, then I'd have no qualms whatsoever and believe he'd enhance our squad no-end, regardless of the money.

He's a very good quality all-rounder who can play in all positions, especially on the left, and with the exit doors swinging open with the loss of Petrov, and soon to be Robbie, and the fact that Bellers can't play every game, he'll become more than just a squad player.

Agreed. Milner is the one deal I want to happen. Even at £30m.

Its over the odds for him, but I do agree with you.

Milner has the tools to be an all round force for a top side.

[justlurkin]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag? Me personally, I really do like Milner as a player, his determination, professionalism and versatility are things I like to see, but I'm not sure about him coming to us for some reason, don't know why, it just doesn't feel right. If we did get him, then I'd have no qualms whatsoever and believe he'd enhance our squad no-end, regardless of the money.

He's a very good quality all-rounder who can play in all positions, especially on the left, and with the exit doors swinging open with the loss of Petrov, and soon to be Robbie, and the fact that Bellers can't play every game, he'll become more than just a squad player.

He is a very good player. That is not the question. Whether he is great player is a good question however. I don't think he is. At close to 30m you are looking at great player, not just some bulking to squad.

For example, if we were to buy David Silva to play similar role for that price, I'd understand it. He is about the same age as Milner and World Class and would be automatic starter (despite me having slight doubts how he'd cope with physical nature of the game). 25m for Arteta I would understand as he has been top performer for very long time and would fill a place of huge need for us. Milner however I don't rate in the same bracket for either guaranteed (as much as you can guarantee anything in football) performance or position of desperate need (I think Milner's best position is on the wing).

Oh, and Lescott filled a position of desperate need in left footed centerback. We were still mugs paying that sort of money for him.

As far as I know MON knows more about football than both of us so to say Milner's best position is on the wing when he was a revelation for Villa in the middle of the park makes me wonder did you actually watch him play for Villa last season. My opinion is he is a good player, he will get better and his price tag is a bit much but as most on here have stated, it's because he was YPOTY and also because it's CITY trying to buy him. At the end of the day it's not our money so who cares how much we pay for a player.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag? Me personally, I really do like Milner as a player, his determination, professionalism and versatility are things I like to see, but I'm not sure about him coming to us for some reason, don't know why, it just doesn't feel right. If we did get him, then I'd have no qualms whatsoever and believe he'd enhance our squad no-end, regardless of the money.

He's a very good quality all-rounder who can play in all positions, especially on the left, and with the exit doors swinging open with the loss of Petrov, and soon to be Robbie, and the fact that Bellers can't play every game, he'll become more than just a squad player.

He is a very good player. That is not the question. Whether he is great player is a good question however. I don't think he is. At close to 30m you are looking at great player, not just some bulking to squad.

For example, if we were to buy David Silva to play similar role for that price, I'd understand it. He is about the same age as Milner and World Class and would be automatic starter (despite me having slight doubts how he'd cope with physical nature of the game). 25m for Arteta I would understand as he has been top performer for very long time and would fill a place of huge need for us. Milner however I don't rate in the same bracket for either guaranteed (as much as you can guarantee anything in football) performance or position of desperate need (I think Milner's best position is on the wing).

Oh, and Lescott filled a position of desperate need in left footed centerback. We were still mugs paying that sort of money for him.

As far as I know MON knows more about football than both of us so to say Milner's best position is on the wing when he was a revelation for Villa in the middle of the park makes me wonder did you actually watch him play for Villa last season. My opinion is he is a good player, he will get better and his price tag is a bit much but as most on here have stated, it's because he was YPOTY and also because it's CITY trying to buy him. At the end of the day it's not our money so who cares how much we pay for a player.

bet you were saying the same thing when Alan Ball was in charge.

I said Benjani is shite and Santa Clause is shite. I might not know more about football than them two but in those occasions I seemed to have better idea.

Milner was used in middle mainly because apart from Petrov they have no decent central players whereas Villa have loads of good wingers. Had you watched Villa at all, you would've probably known that.

[justlurkin]

Funny isn't it that people who wanted Lescott did not complain about the price-tag? Me personally, I really do like Milner as a player, his determination, professionalism and versatility are things I like to see, but I'm not sure about him coming to us for some reason, don't know why, it just doesn't feel right. If we did get him, then I'd have no qualms whatsoever and believe he'd enhance our squad no-end, regardless of the money.

He's a very good quality all-rounder who can play in all positions, especially on the left, and with the exit doors swinging open with the loss of Petrov, and soon to be Robbie, and the fact that Bellers can't play every game, he'll become more than just a squad player.

He is a very good player. That is not the question. Whether he is great player is a good question however. I don't think he is. At close to 30m you are looking at great player, not just some bulking to squad.

For example, if we were to buy David Silva to play similar role for that price, I'd understand it. He is about the same age as Milner and World Class and would be automatic starter (despite me having slight doubts how he'd cope with physical nature of the game). 25m for Arteta I would understand as he has been top performer for very long time and would fill a place of huge need for us. Milner however I don't rate in the same bracket for either guaranteed (as much as you can guarantee anything in football) performance or position of desperate need (I think Milner's best position is on the wing).

Oh, and Lescott filled a position of desperate need in left footed centerback. We were still mugs paying that sort of money for him.

As far as I know MON knows more about football than both of us so to say Milner's best position is on the wing when he was a revelation for Villa in the middle of the park makes me wonder did you actually watch him play for Villa last season. My opinion is he is a good player, he will get better and his price tag is a bit much but as most on here have stated, it's because he was YPOTY and also because it's CITY trying to buy him. At the end of the day it's not our money so who cares how much we pay for a player.

bet you were saying the same thing when Alan Ball was in charge.

I said Benjani is shite and Santa Clause is shite. I might not know more about football than them two but in those occasions I seemed to have better idea.

Milner was used in middle mainly because apart from Petrov they have no decent central players whereas Villa have loads of good wingers. Had you watched Villa at all, you would've probably known that.

Villa had Nigel Reo Coker who plays in the middle although he's not that great which is fair enough but MON wouldn't have played a winger in central midfield if he wasn't capable of doing the job. Do you honestly think he would have persisted with Milner in the middle if he wasn't good enough to do the job? If he wasn't good enough to do the job he would have signed somebody to do it so he must have been proved right by Milner playing so well there.

[Beefymcfc]

Yup Everton finished 8th, for some reason I thought they finished 7th (all scousers sound the same to me) - so you're saying MON will start crying, throw his toys out of the pram, make Milner train on his own and deny him access to coaching staff/physio input as he delays the inevitable transfer as long as humanly possible into August while bad mouthing us at every opportunity to the press? He doesn't strike me as being one bit like Moyes. He might not like losing a player (if he comes to us) but I would say he will accept the inevitable if/when it happens and try and make the best of it for Villa rather than attempting to ruin someone's season out of spite while damaging his own team's season in the process.

Well done, take everything out of context. What I'm saying is that I don't believe he is a manager who would want the heart of his team ripped apart. O'Neil has been growing this team for a while and Milner is a big part of it; the English youngsters. It's not about being an obnoxious fucker, O'Neil is more about respect and loyalty.

[Beefymcfc]

bet you were saying the same thing when Alan Ball was in charge.
I said Benjani is shite and Santa Clause is shite. I might not know more about football than them two but in those occasions I seemed to have better idea.

Milner was used in middle mainly because apart from Petrov they have no decent central players whereas Villa have loads of good wingers. Had you watched Villa at all, you would've probably known that.

That's not really an argument is it mate, and also way out of context (doesn't support your debate at all actually), and just because you say a certain person was 'Shit' doesn't support it either. I'd say 95% of City fans could have said that, as they may have said about Bellers, but if they prove themselves it's not to hard to say 'I was wrong' is it.

Look, I think the price is well over the odds and even more so now that the 6-5 rule has been rescinded, but even so, you cannot take away the fact that he would enhance our squad; could you?

[DoomMerchant]

the reality, you two douchelicks*, is that Milner proved he has some versatility last season, and it made him more dangerous. That's all.

EDIT: * Justlurkin and Andy -- duh!

[Mark (Blue Army)]

Barcelona outcast Yaya Toure's agent said the midfielder is close to moving to England - and Manchester City are favourites to land him.

Agent Dimitri Seluk said: "Yaya Toure will be a star in the Premier League and the deal is now close with Barcelona. Manchester City has the quality to be the the best club in the world."

Barcelona are eyeing up potential replacements for Toure with Tottenham's Wilson Palacios, Bordeaux's Alou Diarra, Toulouse's Etienne Capoue and Juventus' ex-Liverpool star Momo Sissoko on their hit-list for holding midfielders.

mirrorfootball.co.uk

His agent is a right fucking cock, one minute were a club that talk rich but are poor now were a club that can be the best in the world. Yaya needs to get rid of this clown asap.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

bet you were saying the same thing when Alan Ball was in charge.
I said Benjani is shite and Santa Clause is shite. I might not know more about football than them two but in those occasions I seemed to have better idea.

Milner was used in middle mainly because apart from Petrov they have no decent central players whereas Villa have loads of good wingers. Had you watched Villa at all, you would've probably known that.

That's not really an argument is it mate, and also way out of context (doesn't support your debate at all actually), and just because you say a certain person was 'Shit' doesn't support it either. I'd say 95% of City fans could have said that, as they may have said about Bellers, but if they prove themselves it's not to hard to say 'I was wrong' is it.

Look, I think the price is well over the odds and even more so now that the 6-5 rule has been rescinded, but even so, you cannot take away the fact that he would enhance our squad; could you?

for me, the legendary 'he is a football manager, he knows better than you' is the dumbest argument out there. Well why are we debating at all then? Point is that all managers are humanbeings and make mistakes as we full well know.

where did I ever say Milner is 'shit'? I haven't said anything like that. I said he is good player but nothing like great one. If we are binning our hopes on this lad to orchestrate the game as playmaker, he is almost guaranteed to fail. If we are using him as squad player and mainly on the wing, he would be usefull. At prices quoted I think it's former they are hoping him to do. Some people seem to be looking him through red and white glasses.

[DoomMerchant]

Inter Balotelli and Burdisso for 42M euro...also, in a separate article, Inter want Carlitos for 35M.

somehow this seems possible, and if we lost Tevez i'd be fuclin gutted. Like, fucked off majorly.

Sauce? i dunno...check NewsNow there are some Italian reports i translated into shit like this:

The proposal, not too indecent, the sheikhs have submitted Moratti: 42 million, cash, to bring to the City, the poor old club Manchester and Balotelli Burdisso. Roberto Mancini, the former great, was clear: to hunt for a Champions League place (shaded last year) and - who knows - the Premiership title, he needs his two protégés.
Of those 42 million, twelve are there, ready to make sure that the Argentine defender wants to redeem Rome, but not really at all costs. Mancini wants to entrust to him the keys to the defense. Nicolas would like to remain in red and yellow, but Palace Saras, strong supply the City will do discounts on the tag. Next week, his attorney - Hidalgo - meet Branca. We'll see.
Anything goes for Balotelli. Supermario is always about to leave, and it is possible that - despite the departure of the enemy Mou - wants to change the air. Balo ask the new coach guarantees precise: he wants to be sure to play, and do so continuously. But it is clear that, with competition so fierce, Benitez can not promise anyone a starting spot.
Mancini, however, is another warning: dotes on the Inter 45, and is finally ready to launch Olympus Numbers One.

[john@staustell]

Inter Balotelli and Burdisso for 42M euro...also, in a separate article, Inter want Carlitos for 35M.

somehow this seems possible, and if we lost Tevez i'd be fuclin gutted. Like, fucked off majorly.

Sauce? i dunno...check NewsNow there are some Italian reports i translated into shit like this:

The proposal, not too indecent, the sheikhs have submitted Moratti: 42 million, cash, to bring to the City, the poor old club Manchester and Balotelli Burdisso. Roberto Mancini, the former great, was clear: to hunt for a Champions League place (shaded last year) and - who knows - the Premiership title, he needs his two protégés.
Of those 42 million, twelve are there, ready to make sure that the Argentine defender wants to redeem Rome, but not really at all costs. Mancini wants to entrust to him the keys to the defense. Nicolas would like to remain in red and yellow, but Palace Saras, strong supply the City will do discounts on the tag. Next week, his attorney - Hidalgo - meet Branca. We'll see.
Anything goes for Balotelli. Supermario is always about to leave, and it is possible that - despite the departure of the enemy Mou - wants to change the air. Balo ask the new coach guarantees precise: he wants to be sure to play, and do so continuously. But it is clear that, with competition so fierce, Benitez can not promise anyone a starting spot.
Mancini, however, is another warning: dotes on the Inter 45, and is finally ready to launch Olympus Numbers One.

Saw this one earlier about Tevez (in English). Absolute shite, much like this translation.

[DoomMerchant]

Inter Balotelli and Burdisso for 42M euro...also, in a separate article, Inter want Carlitos for 35M.

somehow this seems possible, and if we lost Tevez i'd be fuclin gutted. Like, fucked off majorly.

Sauce? i dunno...check NewsNow there are some Italian reports i translated into shit like this:

The proposal, not too indecent, the sheikhs have submitted Moratti: 42 million, cash, to bring to the City, the poor old club Manchester and Balotelli Burdisso. Roberto Mancini, the former great, was clear: to hunt for a Champions League place (shaded last year) and - who knows - the Premiership title, he needs his two protégés.
Of those 42 million, twelve are there, ready to make sure that the Argentine defender wants to redeem Rome, but not really at all costs. Mancini wants to entrust to him the keys to the defense. Nicolas would like to remain in red and yellow, but Palace Saras, strong supply the City will do discounts on the tag. Next week, his attorney - Hidalgo - meet Branca. We'll see.
Anything goes for Balotelli. Supermario is always about to leave, and it is possible that - despite the departure of the enemy Mou - wants to change the air. Balo ask the new coach guarantees precise: he wants to be sure to play, and do so continuously. But it is clear that, with competition so fierce, Benitez can not promise anyone a starting spot.
Mancini, however, is another warning: dotes on the Inter 45, and is finally ready to launch Olympus Numbers One.

Saw this one earlier about Tevez (in English). Absolute shite, much like this translation.

let's hope so...it's late and i have had a drink so maybe im a bit gullible, but you don't get the sense there is any real rapport with Mancini and Tevez, do you? Is Molito nailed on to Madrid or something now that Jose is there?

cheers

[john@staustell]

Last I read there was NO chance of Milito leaving Inter. Inter and City are rich so it's difficult to put pressure on them to sell players.

As for Yaya, today's update, not involving the dreaded agent, says that Barca are expecting an influx of 30 million euros from us very shortly to go toward their pursuit of Mr Fabregas:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpubli ... cio_PK=803

[DoomMerchant]

Last I read there was NO chance of Milito leaving Inter. Inter and City are rich so it's difficult to put pressure on them to sell players.

As for Yaya, today's update, not involving the dreaded agent, says that Barca are expecting an influx of 30 million euros from us very shortly to go toward their pursuit of Mr Fabregas:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpubli ... cio_PK=803

i think i'd rather pay 100M for Fabs than help Barca fund their move for him.

cheers

[john@staustell]

Last I read there was NO chance of Milito leaving Inter. Inter and City are rich so it's difficult to put pressure on them to sell players.

As for Yaya, today's update, not involving the dreaded agent, says that Barca are expecting an influx of 30 million euros from us very shortly to go toward their pursuit of Mr Fabregas:

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpubli ... cio_PK=803

i think i'd rather pay 100M for Fabs than help Barca fund their move for him.

cheers

Maybe if he'd been born in Ancoats instead of Vilassar de Mar he'd be angling for a move to City?