Tevez hands in transfer request?????

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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Vantage » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:18 pm

Whatever happens I'd have rather we had him for the time we did than not his commitment on the pitch has always been 100% and some of the superstars in the squad would do well to take note. Yes his agent is an arse but the club knew what they were getting into when they signed him. I don't know what is wrong with Carlos and probably we'll never know the truth, but he has been an important part of the journey. I'm so sorry it's ended like this but I will always have a soft spot for little Carlito.

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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby BadKompany » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:19 pm

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Blue2 wrote:Benzema - overrated imo- no thanks. Got to be Torres


think there's a chance we will get both

Torres would have been our number one target regardless of the tevez situation..we might just pull it off too..would certainly keep Silva happy


I really don't want this 'superstar' type player signing for us,have we not learnt our lesson already?

Surely we can find hungry talent without the baggage and ego?
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby blues-clues » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:20 pm

Right, does anyone believe this story from Rodney Marsh who says Tevez was on £286k after tax. Just put this onto a payroll website and that is nearly £600k a week or £30m a year gross, £150m for his 5 year contract plus the signing fee. Add in all the agents bits and Tevez will have cost £200 million quid plus if he saw out his contract. He is a fucking wonderful player but that is totally ridiculous.

It is the equivalent of £24000 a day for a 5 day week and he does what? 12 hours a week maybe. £2000 an hour to play football. Madness it is..... fucking madness.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:20 pm

BadKompany wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Blue2 wrote:Benzema - overrated imo- no thanks. Got to be Torres


think there's a chance we will get both

Torres would have been our number one target regardless of the tevez situation..we might just pull it off too..would certainly keep Silva happy


I really don't want this 'superstar' type player signing for us,have we not learnt our lesson already?

Surely we can find hungry talent without the baggage and ego?


Just posted the exact same thing on the 'striker' thread.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:22 pm

I wonder if the club will answer the discrepancies in the 2 statement's?
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby blues-clues » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:25 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I wonder if the club will answer the discrepancies in the 2 statement's?


Heads will roll over the release of the interviews and all the other publicity saying that he is going to stay. Unprofessional does not come close, rank incompetence that is.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Mike J » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:29 pm

feel absolutely choked about all this. absolutely adored that bloke since he signed for the club and this happens. has topped off a shite weekend to be honest.

will be gutted to see him pulling on another shirt but we have to get on with it. there are not many that can replace him to be honest but id like to see us go for torres.

if he had waited untill the summer to come out with all this then maybe i could of accepted it but to do it in the position we are in now makes him an utter cunt.

i hate to say it but i hope he never plays for us again.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby SORTED » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:37 pm

Carlos who?

I'd take any two from:

Villa
Torres
Aguero
Dzeko
Higuain
Ibrahimovic
Van Persie

and in my dreams Messi and Ronaldo.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:47 pm

Anyone want a laugh??

Check out this thread: http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 2ea4ea186f

Over half of them are thinking they can get him on loan in January! :-D
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby paulmclaren » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:54 pm

SORTED wrote:Carlos who?

I'd take any two from:

Villa
Torres
Aguero
Dzeko
Higuain
Ibrahimovic
Van Persie

and in my dreams Messi and Ronaldo.


The only ones we have a remote chance of signing from that bunch is Torress and dzeko.
It's not even worth mentioning any of the others.
And i wouldn't even bother with van persie.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Guy Debord » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:57 pm

Daniel Taylor in The Guardian

Carlos Tevez's relationship with Manchester City was at the point of no return tonight after he revealed he had wanted to leave since the summer and said his relationship with the club's executives had "broken down and is beyond repair".

Reiterating his determination to leave Eastlands, Tevez insisted he had "no personal issue with the manager, Roberto Mancini", but made it clear he would not change his mind and that it was not a matter of money.

"My feelings have not changed and it is regrettable we have reached this situation but it is something I have felt for some time and have spent many hours thinking this through," he said. "I wanted to leave in the summer, but was convinced to return to the club. Sadly, my feelings have not changed.

"I could have signed an improved contract, offered by the club during this season; however, this decision is not about money. I have made that clear to both the board and the management on several occasions. I hugely resent the management's suggestions that I have been unduly influenced by others. I am disappointed that the management should now see fit to try to portray the situation in another light."

That was referring to a statement released by City earlier in the day, describing themselves as "disappointed by this situation and particularly the actions of Carlos's representative [Kia Joorabchian]", as well as questioning whether it was a decision based on finance rather than Tevez's distress at being separated from his family in Argentina.

"The written transfer request is in stark contrast to Carlos's stated position in both public and club contexts," the club said. "Significantly, over recent months the club have also received numerous requests from Carlos's representative to renegotiate and improve his playing contract, as well as more recently a request to extend that contract by another year.

"In line with the club's policy of not negotiating playing contracts mid-season this has not been granted. Carlos's current five-year contract has three and a half years to run and he is the highest paid player at the club."

The Tevez camp insist he is simply unhappy as a consequence of his daughters, Florencia and Katia, living in Buenos Aires now he is separated from their mother, Vanessa. Tevez, it emerged, had informed the club in August that he wanted to leave only to be talked into waiting until this point, predominantly by Joorabchian.

Since then, he has been offered a new contract that would make him comfortably the best-paid footballer in England, as well as a one-off "sweetener" in excess of £1m, but refused them both, telling associates "he no longer enjoyed going into work in the morning".

His first wish would be to move back to Argentina but, recognising that might be out of the question, he is holding out for Spain, ideally Real Madrid, where he hopes his family will follow. Failing that, he is threatening to quit football altogether. "My relationship with certain executives and individuals at the club has broken down and is now beyond repair," he said, in a thinly veiled reference directed at the chief executive, Garry Cook, and the football administrator, Brian Marwood. "I do not wish to expand on this at this stage. They know, because I have told them. Now I need to clear my head and think because this is an important part of my career."

Tevez thanked Sheikh Mansour for his "understanding and support", saying City's owner had been "very generous with what he has offered to me". But relations between player and club appear to have suffered irreparable damage, City's statement making it clear they feel badly let down. Tevez's unhappiness about his family life is accepted as genuine – "we know he hates being in Manchester", one senior figure admitted – but City's statement talked of "an unfortunate and unwelcome distraction ... in what is turning out to be a very promising season".

The club added: "Roberto and all at the club have shown, and will continue to show, sensitivity to Carlos's personal circumstances, including the issue of his family being based overseas. Indeed, following his suspension [Tevez was banned from the 3-1 win at West Ham United on Saturday] Carlos requested, and was given, special dispensation to take leave overseas."

Even this, however, has led to confusion behind the scenes. Mancini had allowed Tevez to take four days off – initially three until Tevez asked for another day – and the club had been under the assumption he would be seeing his family. Their information is that he flew to Tenerife instead.

City insiders have also accused Tevez's representatives of making "excessive" wage demands, whereas the opposite claim comes from the player's, namely that City have been offering astronomical figures that he has turned down.

Mancini, who was in Italy having a minor operation on his left eye, now faces the possibility of losing a striker who has scored 33 goals in 50 Premier League appearances for the club since joining from Manchester United last year. The manager's initial suspicion was that Tevez may already have lined up another club although, on reflection, he does not believe this is the case.

Tevez admitted last week that being in Manchester while his daughters were on the other side of the world "did hurt" but went on to say that "my quality time with them will come later".

City's publicity department had gone to great lengths to try to foster the belief that he was not agitating for a move and the revelations are a huge embarrassment only a few days after a carefully staged interview with Tevez on the club's website in which he spoke of being happily settled.

After being suspended at the weekend Tevez had been due to play in Thursday's Europa League tie against Juventus, although that is now under review, and it might be that Mancini decides the man he made captain in the summer is not in the right frame of mind.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Spurge » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:10 pm

Do you not think that City, as they pay his astonomical wages, can, as part of the contract in place say to Tevez - "Carlos we want to do a feature interview with you in the magazine this month and this how it needs to go...."?[/quote]


Well if it went like that, It must have come from Gary Cook the PR and marketinhg genius, and he must surely be fired because this is fucking embarrassing if it turns out to be true.

However, what does Carlos want? One minute its homesickness and retirement, the next its, a transfer request. Personally I think its a Kia Joorabchian ego trip. He's seen Rooney get a much improved contract, and is now going to try and get his player to get the highest wages in the prem....especially when we have the capacity to award such a deal.

Finally, i think i saw a stat that we had either never won a game, or won one game this season when Tevez was missing. It may only be West Ham, but it shows we can play without him, and win.

The choice is his...Sadly, I think he will leave to somewhere like Real. Manchester City will move one, whereas Carlos will be riding the pine only to see him request a move in 12 months because he isn't getting the playing time...then it won't be our worry.[/quote]

You don't do an interview with a player in two parts telling him exactly what he's got to say IN SPANISH, you ask him how he feels & if the reply you get is to your liking, you do the interview & if the result is still to your liking you put it out. The idea they forced Tevez to say that is childish & nowhere is it being claimed that he didn't answer the questions truthfully. The claim is that HE CHANGED HIS MIND after the Bolton incident. It's clearly horseshit & if he has asked for a transfer it's nothing to do with either.[/quote]

Ted, are you really that naive? Have you not heard of spin before?

Tevez wanted to leave in the summer and it's clear that there has been all sorts of shit going down behind the scenes for a good while, stuff that was undoubtedly going on when the magazine interview took place.

I'm not saying the club told him what to say word for word, but they would have said put a postive slant on things for the sake of the fans cos we won't print any of the negative stuff etc etc.[/quote]

I'm not naive at all. You're just basically saying the same thing as I said. If he'd told City he thought we were a bunch of cunts & he wanted to leave, they wouldn't have done the interview. Instead he told them exactly what he's been telling everyone else all season so they put it out. If he was to now claim that City made him say it, he'd have to explain why he'd said the same thing on so many other occasions, which I know for a fact, he has.[/quote]

So on that basis, if I was saying what you were saying, and what I was saying was supporting what I said initially, then you were agreeing with me all along!

Glad we got than one sorted!
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby gillie » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:11 pm

If he is missing his Daughters so much then let him leave but it must be understood he pay his contract off.As a Father i know where my loyalties would lie but i have never earned the sort of money Carlos has so i dont know if i would try to integrate my family with my work.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby bluej » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:16 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I wonder what the chances are of Bellers getting a call?


Troublemaker. Don't want the likes of him upsetting the harmony of the squad..


If all the bridges haven't been burned then we could do worse than try to get him back.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:19 pm

gillie wrote:If he is missing his Daughters so much then let him leave but it must be understood he pay his contract off.As a Father i know where my loyalties would lie but i have never earned the sort of money Carlos has so i dont know if i would try to integrate my family with my work.


If it's true that his transfer request has come whilst he's been visiting the Canaries then it's unlikely it's got anything to do with his family. I bet he was visiting someone though. Be interesting to see where he ends up.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:23 pm

Not read the whole thread, but am I alone in thinking Torres is a busted flush? Doesn't look fit at all and hasn't for 12 months.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby dario2739 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:23 pm

I think Barca is his most likely choice of destination, if so fine... Villa plus cash or Messi straight swap... their choice! See you Carlos
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:35 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:Not read the whole thread, but am I alone in thinking Torres is a busted flush? Doesn't look fit at all and hasn't for 12 months.


Looks more out of sorts & depressed to me rather than finished. Be a hell of a gamble but having said that most of the players we've been linked with are a gamble.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:44 pm

Feel so fucking hurt over this. I thought going joint top was to good to be true. Fuck off Carlos
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Blue Blood » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:05 am

Lack of class all this carlos.... very uncool.

Still you aren't irreplaceable, city will be fine without you.. but you leave on our terms pal, dislike that and rot in the reserves.

Players these days eh.
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