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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:42 am

mcfc1632 wrote:Interesting to see that new statement from Jooabchian this morning...

"'Carlos was very disappointed not achieving CL...." - "...issues that CITY promised would be sorted out have not been......"

Claims he cannot say what the issues are 'cos of confidentiality - but that "...Cook thinks he is bigger than Carlos Tevez...."

Sounds really desperate stuff to me - what could Carlos have wished to be sorted after we failed to get CL?? New players? - tick - CL position this season? - tick etc

I could understand him being disappointed with not getting CL last season, but it makes no sense to ask for a transfer when we are well on course to get it this season, does it? Heck, we might even be in a title race till the very end if we keep up the good work done so far, so his worries on that aspect are unfounded now. As for Cook thinking he's bigger than Tevez, he's right to think so imho, he represents the club and the club is bigger than any player.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby mcfc1632 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:07 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:Interesting to see that new statement from Jooabchian this morning...

"'Carlos was very disappointed not achieving CL...." - "...issues that CITY promised would be sorted out have not been......"

Claims he cannot say what the issues are 'cos of confidentiality - but that "...Cook thinks he is bigger than Carlos Tevez...."

Sounds really desperate stuff to me - what could Carlos have wished to be sorted after we failed to get CL?? New players? - tick - CL position this season? - tick etc

I could understand him being disappointed with not getting CL last season, but it makes no sense to ask for a transfer when we are well on course to get it this season, does it? Heck, we might even be in a title race till the very end if we keep up the good work done so far, so his worries on that aspect are unfounded now. As for Cook thinking he's bigger than Tevez, he's right to think so imho, he represents the club and the club is bigger than any player.



Agreed - that is why I suggest it is a desperate attempt to try and argue that there is something legitimate about this other than a naked push for money
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby The Goose » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:19 am

Seems I was wrong yesterday about how Cook got his job as Kia's comments this morning are saying that he was solely responsible for GC getting the job at City.

Well, the plot has just thickened, because I'm almost certain that Kia's quotes will be read with some serious interest over in Abu Dhabi. I really hope our chief executive hasn't put himself in a position where there's even the slightest possibility that Kia's claims that GC made promises to CT which he didn't fulfill are true.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby john@staustell » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:26 am

The Goose wrote:Seems I was wrong yesterday about how Cook got his job as Kia's comments this morning are saying that he was solely responsible for GC getting the job at City.

Well, the plot has just thickened, because I'm almost certain that Kia's quotes will be read with some serious interest over in Abu Dhabi. I really hope our chief executive hasn't put himself in a position where there's even the slightest possibility that Kia's claims that GC made promises to CT which he didn't fulfill are true.


Mate - this is clearly a very clumsy attempt to drive wedges and divert blame by Kia the Leech. Dont start falling for it.


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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:27 am

The Goose wrote:Seems I was wrong yesterday about how Cook got his job as Kia's comments this morning are saying that he was solely responsible for GC getting the job at City.

Well, the plot has just thickened, because I'm almost certain that Kia's quotes will be read with some serious interest over in Abu Dhabi. I really hope our chief executive hasn't put himself in a position where there's even the slightest possibility that Kia's claims that GC made promises to CT which he didn't fulfill are true.

maybe Cookie promised him the winter off in the sun and Wayne as a replacement!
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:39 am

How many more fucking things does the little cunt need? The fact that he wants more of anything is ridiculous beyond words. Just shove it up your arse Joorabchian.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:45 am

I dont trust Kia as far as i can throw him and trust me thats not very far.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby david yearsley » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:53 am

lets all have a disco wrote:I dont trust Kia as far as i can throw him and trust me thats not very far.

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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Goataldo » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:06 am

The Goose wrote:Seems I was wrong yesterday about how Cook got his job as Kia's comments this morning are saying that he was solely responsible for GC getting the job at City.

Well, the plot has just thickened, because I'm almost certain that Kia's quotes will be read with some serious interest over in Abu Dhabi. I really hope our chief executive hasn't put himself in a position where there's even the slightest possibility that Kia's claims that GC made promises to CT which he didn't fulfill are true.



Am I reading that right - Kia is saying that he got Garry Cook the City job?
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Swales4ever » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:06 am

david yearsley wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:I dont trust Kia as far as i can throw him and trust me thats not very far.

KJ - the unacceptable face of football


As expected the wise steady "power play" by the Club is already acheiving results:

from MUEN: [ http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... garry_cook ]

Joorabcuuuuntian was also quick to reassure fans that Tevez will continue to give his all for Roberto Mancini's side while he remains with the club.
"He is a pro and will continue to play and give 100% as he has always done," added Joorabcuuuuntian.
"It has been said City will sue for a breach of contract but on what grounds? All he's done is simply request a transfer."

Keep on good job Garry!

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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Manx Blue » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:19 am

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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:30 am

Manx Blue wrote:http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1392828_richards_message_for_wantaway_city_ace_tevez

Allegedly the Tev has said "I stay I stay"


This whole thing gets more bizarre by the second. It's almost as if KJ is in charge of what Tevez says even if he's not saying it.

Remember what Bob said in his interview before this news had been released but AFTER the request had been put in? " I think Carlos will stay for a long time because he's never told me anything different ".
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Beeks » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:39 am

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Kia Joorabchian: Manchester City reneged on promises made to Carlos Tévez

Carlos Tévez wants to quit Manchester City because he says the club reneged on specific promises made to him which had nothing to do with money.

His adviser, Kia Joorabchian, said on Tuesday night that City had made Tévez a “fantastic offer” that would have probably made him the highest-paid player in the Premier League and that the submission of a written transfer request had nothing to do with financial demands.

There are understood to be several promises that were made to Tévez that the club failed to follow up on with Joorabchian adamant that the desire to leave has been driven by the player and not him.

In an exclusive interview with Telegraph Sport, Joorabchian also dismissed as “ludicrous” claims emanating from the club that he had tried to involve himself in the transfer of Yaya Touré.

“I’m not an agent so I don’t act as an agent,” he said. “You can see evidence that Manchester City invited me to help them so to suggest anything else is wrong.”

Joorabchian refuted suggestions that Tévez might refuse to play for City. “I want to be clear that Carlos has never said he is not going to play or train or be professional. So those rumours are rubbish,” he said.

“He will play if picked and 100 per cent do his best. He feels that is important every time he puts on the shirt. He always gives 100 per cent. ”

Nevertheless Tévez had wanted to leave City at the end of last season. “When Carlos Tévez first signed for Manchester City there was a reason why he signed. He saw the vision of the owner and the way the club wanted to go,” he said.

“Carlos is a winner, everywhere he has been in his life he has been a winner. He decided he would sign for the club, play one year outside of the Champions League and hopefully take this club into the next phase.

“When he joined City he made a commitment that this was what he wanted to do. At the end of last season, after all the turmoil that went on, Carlos was bitterly disappointed because they didn’t qualify for the Champions League.

"And he felt the situation at the club was not going in the same direction as he imagined it would be going. He played out of his skin, did everything he possibly could.

“In the summer he wanted to leave. I then spent most of my summer travelling all around the world talking to the chairman of Manchester City [Khaldoon Al Mubarak] and to Carlos in order to try and convince him that we should try to find an agreement that would allow us and help us to go to the next phase.

"He would then not feel like he wanted to leave. I think I managed to successfully convince Carlos to speak to the chairman and let the two of them find a harmonious way to get this back on track.

“I’m surprised at the club’s reaction because they were fully aware of the situation and how I was helping. The two of them spoke and they spoke with the rest of the management.

"The chairman asked Carlos to stay and the management agreed that he had certain issues that he wanted dealt with. They wanted to wait until Sept 1 to address the issues he had because they wanted to concentrate on the transfer window.”

However, Joorabchian said, it was the failure to address these ‘issues’ that changed everything. “Through September Carlos again began to get disillusioned because his viewpoint was it was not happening. His view was that they had agreed and spoke and promises were made to him and now the window was closed these issues were not being resolved.

"Carlos wanted to leave, I went to speak to them and they said there would be a new contract, new clauses in the contract etc. They sent the proposal, we countered one time and then we said ‘you know what Carlos doesn’t want it, thank you very much, no’.”

Tévez is furious that he is now being accused of angling for a new contract or is being controlled by Joorabchian.

“I’m absolutely confident that the emails will show we acted in a correct manner at all times,” Joorabchian said. “I feel absolutely confident that if everyone is happy to make that public we have not done anything unprofessional or behaved in anything other than a correct manner.

“If we have to show a dossier that is chronological and shows the whole picture from start to finish, so that people can see what has gone on, then I’m confident that I have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about.”

He added: “Carlos has been very clear that this was his decision and he has not been influenced by anyone else.

“The people who work for the club should be ‘thinking there is a problem here, how do we find a solution to this problem’ rather than fuelling the fire.”

Joorabchian’s relationship with City chief executive Garry Cook has also come under scrutiny. “For anyone to think that either me or Garry Cook are bigger than the story of the club is ridiculous. I don’t think I am important enough or he is important enough,” he said of the former Nike executive who Joorabchian says he helped get his job at City.

“I introduced them and in fact I acted as his agent and increased his salary more than four times what he was being earned in the States. He even offered me a commission, which I turned down,” he said.

“Garry was not involved in the Carlos Tévez transfer at all and I think maybe through that and other issues the whole concept of the job took him by surprise. He just thought ‘oh my God, this is brilliant I’m in charge of this club’.

"I definitely don’t see this as about me and Garry Cook. Carlos is his own man and has his own strong opinions and to suggest that this is about me and Garry Cook is a joke. Carlos’ issues with the club have nothing to do with my relationship with Garry. My relationship with him has been like it is for two years, it didn’t start on yesterday.”

Joorabchian said that he hoped the two sides would, however, be able to talk over the coming weeks.

“Right now Carlos has made his point very clearly that he has issues,” he said. “At a certain time the club and Carlos will have to sit down and try and find an amicable solution here It’s much more constructive for people like Garry and myself to work to find solutions rather than any ideas that we are trying to influence.

"Everybody is being hurt by this right now.”
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby El_Quince » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:44 am

Joorabchian's lack of self-awareness is astonishing. He may not think Cook is 'bigger' than Tevez, but unfortunately for him Cook runs the club and calls the shots. No matter how big KJ thinks Tevez is, he is one employee at the club.

Tevez is incredibly well paid. For that reason alone the club are entitled to expect him to turn up to training on time, work hard, score goals. Why on earth would these pathetic tantrums make the club want to shovel more money at him?

If he wants to leave, as soon as someone makes a reasonable offer he should be allowed to go. The club will sign another top striker. The world will continue. We will win the league.

Adios Carlos. Good luck to you wherever you go, and to your future employers: they'll need it.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:47 am

So basically, last summer he was trying to use the fact that we didn't qualify for the Champion's Lg as an excuse to negotiate a new contract for Tevez, no doubt involving a 'get out fee' that the likes of Barca or Real Madrid could activate in order to sign him & he's after something similar now.

Oh forgot..but he's not his agent.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby svengali » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:48 am

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Telegraph

Kia Joorabchian: Manchester City reneged on promises made to Carlos Tévez

Carlos Tévez wants to quit Manchester City because he says the club reneged on specific promises made to him which had nothing to do with money.

His adviser, Kia Joorabchian, said on Tuesday night that City had made Tévez a “fantastic offer” that would have probably made him the highest-paid player in the Premier League and that the submission of a written transfer request had nothing to do with financial demands.

There are understood to be several promises that were made to Tévez that the club failed to follow up on with Joorabchian adamant that the desire to leave has been driven by the player and not him.

In an exclusive interview with Telegraph Sport, Joorabchian also dismissed as “ludicrous” claims emanating from the club that he had tried to involve himself in the transfer of Yaya Touré.

“I’m not an agent so I don’t act as an agent,” he said. “You can see evidence that Manchester City invited me to help them so to suggest anything else is wrong.”

Joorabchian refuted suggestions that Tévez might refuse to play for City. “I want to be clear that Carlos has never said he is not going to play or train or be professional. So those rumours are rubbish,” he said.

“He will play if picked and 100 per cent do his best. He feels that is important every time he puts on the shirt. He always gives 100 per cent. ”

Nevertheless Tévez had wanted to leave City at the end of last season. “When Carlos Tévez first signed for Manchester City there was a reason why he signed. He saw the vision of the owner and the way the club wanted to go,” he said.

“Carlos is a winner, everywhere he has been in his life he has been a winner. He decided he would sign for the club, play one year outside of the Champions League and hopefully take this club into the next phase.

“When he joined City he made a commitment that this was what he wanted to do. At the end of last season, after all the turmoil that went on, Carlos was bitterly disappointed because they didn’t qualify for the Champions League.

"And he felt the situation at the club was not going in the same direction as he imagined it would be going. He played out of his skin, did everything he possibly could.

“In the summer he wanted to leave. I then spent most of my summer travelling all around the world talking to the chairman of Manchester City [Khaldoon Al Mubarak] and to Carlos in order to try and convince him that we should try to find an agreement that would allow us and help us to go to the next phase.

"He would then not feel like he wanted to leave. I think I managed to successfully convince Carlos to speak to the chairman and let the two of them find a harmonious way to get this back on track.

“I’m surprised at the club’s reaction because they were fully aware of the situation and how I was helping. The two of them spoke and they spoke with the rest of the management.

"The chairman asked Carlos to stay and the management agreed that he had certain issues that he wanted dealt with. They wanted to wait until Sept 1 to address the issues he had because they wanted to concentrate on the transfer window.”

However, Joorabchian said, it was the failure to address these ‘issues’ that changed everything. “Through September Carlos again began to get disillusioned because his viewpoint was it was not happening. His view was that they had agreed and spoke and promises were made to him and now the window was closed these issues were not being resolved.

"Carlos wanted to leave, I went to speak to them and they said there would be a new contract, new clauses in the contract etc. They sent the proposal, we countered one time and then we said ‘you know what Carlos doesn’t want it, thank you very much, no’.”

Tévez is furious that he is now being accused of angling for a new contract or is being controlled by Joorabchian.

“I’m absolutely confident that the emails will show we acted in a correct manner at all times,” Joorabchian said. “I feel absolutely confident that if everyone is happy to make that public we have not done anything unprofessional or behaved in anything other than a correct manner.

“If we have to show a dossier that is chronological and shows the whole picture from start to finish, so that people can see what has gone on, then I’m confident that I have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about.”

He added: “Carlos has been very clear that this was his decision and he has not been influenced by anyone else.

“The people who work for the club should be ‘thinking there is a problem here, how do we find a solution to this problem’ rather than fuelling the fire.”

Joorabchian’s relationship with City chief executive Garry Cook has also come under scrutiny. “For anyone to think that either me or Garry Cook are bigger than the story of the club is ridiculous. I don’t think I am important enough or he is important enough,” he said of the former Nike executive who Joorabchian says he helped get his job at City.

“I introduced them and in fact I acted as his agent and increased his salary more than four times what he was being earned in the States. He even offered me a commission, which I turned down,” he said.

“Garry was not involved in the Carlos Tévez transfer at all and I think maybe through that and other issues the whole concept of the job took him by surprise. He just thought ‘oh my God, this is brilliant I’m in charge of this club’.

"I definitely don’t see this as about me and Garry Cook. Carlos is his own man and has his own strong opinions and to suggest that this is about me and Garry Cook is a joke. Carlos’ issues with the club have nothing to do with my relationship with Garry. My relationship with him has been like it is for two years, it didn’t start on yesterday.”

Joorabchian said that he hoped the two sides would, however, be able to talk over the coming weeks.

“Right now Carlos has made his point very clearly that he has issues,” he said. “At a certain time the club and Carlos will have to sit down and try and find an amicable solution here It’s much more constructive for people like Garry and myself to work to find solutions rather than any ideas that we are trying to influence.

"Everybody is being hurt by this right now.”



So what you are trying to say Kia is, that this is all about you and Garry and also about getting a new contract for you'r client. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Swales4ever » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Manx Blue wrote:http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1392828_richards_message_for_wantaway_city_ace_tevez

Allegedly the Tev has said "I stay I stay"


This whole thing gets more bizarre by the second. It's almost as if KJ is in charge of what Tevez says even if he's not saying it.

Remember what Bob said in his interview before this news had been released but AFTER the request had been put in? " I think Carlos will stay for a long time because he's never told me anything different ".


I reckon there cannot be any shadow of doubt on this.
Tevez is hardly capable of wondering outside basic desires, either in english or castillian.
Harsh, but pretty sure...

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"
5. ignore the cunt. he's on permantent wum mission. only TIDs may know City

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Manx Blue » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:54 am

El_Quince wrote:Joorabchian's lack of self-awareness is astonishing. He may not think Cook is 'bigger' than Tevez, but unfortunately for him Cook runs the club and calls the shots. No matter how big KJ thinks Tevez is, he is one employee at the club.

Tevez is incredibly well paid. For that reason alone the club are entitled to expect him to turn up to training on time, work hard, score goals. Why on earth would these pathetic tantrums make the club want to shovel more money at him?

If he wants to leave, as soon as someone makes a reasonable offer he should be allowed to go. The club will sign another top striker. The world will continue. We will win the league.

Adios Carlos. Good luck to you wherever you go, and to your future employers: they'll need it.


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Re: Tevez hands in transfer request?????

Postby Wooders » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:55 am

El_Quince wrote:Joorabchian's lack of self-awareness is astonishing. He may not think Cook is 'bigger' than Tevez, but unfortunately for him Cook runs the club and calls the shots. No matter how big KJ thinks Tevez is, he is one employee at the club.

Tevez is incredibly well paid. For that reason alone the club are entitled to expect him to turn up to training on time, work hard, score goals. Why on earth would these pathetic tantrums make the club want to shovel more money at him?

If he wants to leave, as soon as someone makes a reasonable offer he should be allowed to go. The club will sign another top striker. The world will continue. We will win the league.

Adios Carlos. Good luck to you wherever you go, and to your future employers: they'll need it.


Its quite an astonishlingly stupid insinuation to make isn't it?
Gary Cook will decide Carlos Tevez's future - and if that is 3.5 years in the "elite" squad then so be it
Cookie is clearly a bit of a nutter and he will come out on top in this little battle I can assure you
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Postby King Kev » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:51 pm

Tevez told a City fan at Carrington "I stay I stay"

That's good enough for me!

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