Rag post of the day

[Swales4ever]

It m8 even turn to be the most "I told You so" thread of the year, as it reasonably appears to be quite a typical rag scum.

Though I reckon we are all missing the real point:

Come on blues, we're better than this.

Let's attack the argument not the person... besides [highlight]it might be fun to have a 'rag' to toy with;[/highlight] that is of course if he wishes to stay around and exercise some mutual respect?

Statement of the year by far! Terrific best humour.

[The Man In Blue]

I would just love to hear how he did it in 50's and 60's.

I'd wager our pet plastic won't be forthcoming on that subject mate.

[dazby]

I'm sure it would have been how I followed City when we weren't in the top division. The Monday paper would have Saturday's results and the league table. You're still following your team.

[King Kev]

Yes King Kev, winning the Carling Cup was pretty good last season because we had the pleasure of beating City along the way AND it continued a streak of winning title after title. Do you remember the last time City was able to do that?

So winning the Rumbelows Trophy continued a streak of winning title after title did it? How does that work then?

No, I don't remember the last time my club won a trophy.. but I still support them. Does that make me a worse fan or a better fan than you? Think before reply now (or get your carer to help you).

The 'other side of the planet' is not as far away as you think mate.The world does not begin and end at Eastlands, Old Trafford or Maine Road. I probably know more about YOUR club than even you do.

The other side of the planet might not be so far away these days because we have internet and satellite TV. My question was how did you 'follow' your club in the 50s?


On a side note, you seem to have quite an unhealthy interest in Liverpool FC as well as the rags*. Is this in case utd stop winning stuff and you can jump ship or are you BITTER towards them as well as City?

Happy New Year


* it's amazing what you can learn from somebody's hard-drive isn't it! Whenever your computer starts making a whirring sound in the future, think of me ;o)

That's extremely valid question and one that deserves an answer imo.

I mean, I was born 1978 and started following City 1984/85 season. It was hard enough struggle back then. We got single game every saturday during the season. I bought Match and Shoot magazine's and read match summaries in book store from English newspapers (The Guardian had best stories about City games back then). HOWEVER, while that seems like lot of bother for younger people who are used to Internet and everything (I mean, I learned English by reading football magazines with a dictionary!), for someone who has been following united from across the globe since 50's, that must sound really easy.

Now there are few things that I find somewhat confusing here. My dad (RIP) was born 1950. He remembered that they started showing English 1st division on telly here 1964 (the season Match of the Day started in England). That's the reason why English football has such huge following in Scandinavia. Anyway, that's whole six years after Munich. Before that there was no televised football sent outside Britain (apart from FA Cup final I believe). Now let's pretend you bit your fingernails for six years to see united finally play, literally not having heard anything about them. Now, I find it strange that you would've got English football in Australia even in 1964 because of the broadcasting technique. Before the satellite techonology in late 70's, tv stream was sent basically the same way as radio still does. Now since earth is round and you aross the globe, I find it mathematically impossible for you to get games on saturday there back then. Just the same way as it's still impossible for you to get AM/FM radio programs there from Britain these days. In fact, one of the reasons they started showing football in Scandinavia (that's thousands of miles closer to Britain than Australia and on the same side of the globe) WAS for European Public Broadcasting Companies (BBC, Swedish SVT, Finnish YLE etc) to test and improve long distance live broadcasting.

So I doubt you would've followed united on telly until 70's and on radio when Internet streams came around late 90's. What about newspapers. Now I am only guessing here but while there has always been loads of Brit immigrants in Australia, I find it hard to believe they would've sent copies of newspapers by planes back in the 50's and early 60's simply because of the costs. So the papaers would've come by a ship. That's a long time to wait to read about games. I admire your commitment.

While I'm not calling you liar, I would really love you to share us how it was following united in Australia in 50's.

An excellent post mate and you raise many valid points.

However I think you are wasting your time as our rag friend is obviously full of shit and wouldn't recognise the truth if it smacked him in the mouth.

[CITYSTEVEDON]

why oh why do you let a rag get under your skin, he and other rags know whats going on and they are shitting themselfs. let them have it for now, THE FUTURE IS BLUE CITY BLUE

[Sister of fu]

Cikku wrote:
......................... TOTALLY WRONG and here's the big difference. City are merely a local Manchester club while United belongs to the WORLD, they simply happen to be located at Old Trafford.

Quite possibly the gayest thing I've ever read anywhere on the internet, ever.

Don't know what you mean by 'gayest' in this context Saulman, it may only make sense to gays but 30million plus fans across the world makes United far more than simply a little Manchester club like City is forever destined to remain.

Are we sure this wanker is not Karlos from Facebook because he write's the same mongey shite??

Is there a "how to trade insults with City fans" handbook on sale at OT because they all write the same tedious shite and it's always from fans that don't go to games. The ones that have ST are usually good for a bit of banter but these mongs forever sprout bile.

Well I can't wait for my little citeh to lift the premier league so I can ram it down the throats of wankers like this!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm sure it would have been how I followed City when we weren't in the top division. The Monday paper would have Saturday's results and the league table. You're still following your team.

I don't know whether you ordered them mate but season videos helped somewhat. Those wouldn't have been available in 50's or 60's. And I'm not having a go at Australians at all. I'm just genuinely confused how one would end up following united in Australia in 50's.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm sure it would have been how I followed City when we weren't in the top division. The Monday paper would have Saturday's results and the league table. You're still following your team.

I don't know whether you ordered them mate but season videos helped somewhat. Those wouldn't have been available in 50's or 60's. And I'm not having a go at Australians at all. I'm just genuinely confused how one would end up following united in Australia in 50's.

[john68]

THAT'S EASY TO ANSWER ANTTI...
THEY WOUD HAVE GOT ALL THE LATEST FOOTIE NEWS AS EACH CONVICT SHIP DOCKED MATE.

[Cikku]

Ok guys, I had logged out of here with no intention of returning because wasting my time on a Citeh site is not really my cup of tea, there are far more interesting things online. I then got an email saying that some messages have been posted which got me curious enough to have a look at them. I still have no intention of remaining but there appears to be disbelief that somebody in Australia during the 50's and 60's could become a committed fan of United or for that matter, any other club in England. Without turning it into a history lesson, I will tell you as briefly as I can manage.

I was a 12 year old football mad kid in Malta when my family migrated to Australia in 1956 without having any particular interest in any English club. Football coverage was virtually non existent over here at the time apart from the results and tables in the Monday papers. Oh yes, the FA Cup final was broadcast live on radio every year and that was about it. There were plenty of English football publications in newsagents however which were the only ones that could satisfy my football interest. Some of you must remember the old Charles Buchan's Football Monthly which I began to get regularly. I still have the old, tattered and faded collection stored away with the first issue I got hold of was from memory around August 1958 with a young Bobby Charlton on the cover.

There were also the old Roy of the Rovers and Tiger comics which had a lot of football content. Our local library was also well stocked with books from the likes of Billy Wright, Nat Lofthouse, Annuals and many others. In the early sixties World Soccer magazine came along which to me bacame like a football bible, it's another collection which is still stored away. Then came the weekly Shoot, Match and other weekly magazines which became must reads.

Somebody mentioned newspapers. You may not know it but in those days, the Daily Mirror used to bind all the weeks seven daily issues and ship them to newsagents in Australia. Yes, they were nearly three months behind the issue date but I still got a kick from reading about what was going on in English football.

So now we come to how Manchester United came into the life of a 14 year old kid and like so many others it was obviously because of Munich. I did not follow any particular club at that stage and such a tragedy has a profound effect on a young kid. If that happened to any other club, I just may be one of their fans today. If not for Munich, something else may have happened which could have attracted my support. A number of English clubs toured Australia in the early sixties amongst them Everton, Chelsea and yes even Manchester City and I could have turned towards one of them had I not already committed myself to United. It's difficult to comprehend how anyone can think that someone who began following a club at a time when their team was ripped apart by tragedy can be labeled a 'plastic fan' and a 'glory hunter'. Can it possibly make any sort of sense?

My support was reinforced in the summer of 1967 when United made an Australian tour. I somehow managed to sneak my way into a Sydney airport reception for them while in transit to Brisbane. There I was talking and mingling with idols like Busby, Law, Charlton, Best, Crerand and even an 18 year old unknown Brian Kidd. There was never going to be any other club for me after that even through the long barren period. Yes success, live TV, videos, the internet and a couple of visits to Old Trafford followed over the years which only consolidated my support.

Finally, this post has gone on for longer than I wanted it to but really, why do so many find it so hard to understand that fierce support for a club can be generated in many and varied ways irrespective of where you may be living?

[Ted Hughes]

And from those humble Munich beginnings, you've developed into the kind of person who, after a sustained spell spanning decades during which your team has won every trophy, broken the transfer record in just about every position & City have won fuck all, you feel the need to appear on a City forum, in order to tell us we will always be small. All those years of support have come to this.

What a shame.

[dario2739]

Showing even more ignorance I notice our Rag friend (in reference to Munich) "If it had happened to any other team..."

...well it fucking did! To Torino in 1949... and a Torino side who were far more successful than the Rags were at the time of the Munich crash... funnily enough though, they never cashed in on the disaster in the media like other teams I could mention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superga_air_disaster

[Cikku]

Please go back to the very first post I have written here Ted. It was to point out that a comment made by someone called cockney red on a Manchester United blog on which this whole thread was built around is an impostor. It also reminded City fans that "before glory hunters can be attracted, a club has to achieve some glory. City has been unable to do that in over a century!" That was not an insult mate, but a fact with which even one of your own fans agreed with.

Yet one of the very first comments in response came from some uneducated moron called Fish111 who showed his vast intelligence by simply saying "Times are changing scumboy now fuck off back under your stone. Hope you have a shit new year."

All other comments - on both sides, followed that.

[Cikku]

@ Dario 2739, are you an imbecile or simply pissed? I was less than 6 years old in 1949 and we have been talking about English NOT Italian football of which I never had any interest in until the mid eighties. No comparison whatsoever idiot!

[spiv]

"before glory hunters can be attracted, a club has to achieve some glory. City has been unable to do that in over a century!"

Were you even alive in the late 60's early 70's?

[Beefymcfc]

And this is why I can sleep well at night! We've never been like him, we've never been so deluded with so much bitterness.

At times like this I do feel so proud to have the dad that I did, he was better than awesome!

[9secondlegend]

Please go back to the very first post I have written here Ted. It was to point out that a comment made by someone called cockney red on a Manchester United blog on which this whole thread was built around is an impostor. It also reminded City fans that "before glory hunters can be attracted, a club has to achieve some glory. City has been unable to do that in over a century!" That was not an insult mate, but a fact with which even one of your own fans agreed with.

Yet one of the very first comments in response came from some uneducated moron called Fish111 who showed his vast intelligence by simply saying "Times are changing scumboy now fuck off back under your stone. Hope you have a shit new year."

All other comments - on both sides, followed that.

i too hope you have a shit new year ..no life . i detest you , you fucking piece of shit. i bet your dad was a rapist you son of a bastard convict

[King Kev]

I have been posting on messageboards for about 13 years now, in that time I have NEVER posted on a scum site! Why? because I am not bitter and obsessed with them.

Is it time to get rid of this tedious fucler now?

Just say the word folks.

[spiv]

I have been posting on messageboards for about 13 years now, in that time I have NEVER posted on a scum site! Why? because I am not bitter and obsessed with them.

Is it time to get rid of this tedious fucler now?

Just say the word folks.

No, not yet.

[King Kev]

I have been posting on messageboards for about 13 years now, in that time I have NEVER posted on a scum site! Why? because I am not bitter and obsessed with them.

Is it time to get rid of this tedious fucler now?

Just say the word folks.

No, not yet.

No worries, you remind me of my cat when he has caught a bird and plays with it for a while before he kills it.

Have fun.