andy gray sacked

[Arjan Van Schotte]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

[Alioune DVToure]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

Re: the gray and keys being sexist...again video

She is fiiit and the only reason she even works at sky is so guys can look at her tits and think about skull fucking her. FACT

I think you've missed the point. There was uproar because they suggested she wouldn't know the offside rule for no other reason than her being a woman. Your point of comparison makes no sense.

Still though... like the Gordon Brown thing. People need to draw the line between public and private. If someone had a record of everything I've ever said I'd be in the shit with someone, and so would all of you.

[9secondlegend]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

its true though , there is a certain daytime tv show with women on that constantly slag men off about what we cant do.

[carl_feedthegoat]

It is a load of Bollocks but I'm too happy to care...any excuse to get rid of that cunt...but I will be really pissed off if Keys doesn't follow.......

[Arjan Van Schotte]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

its true though , there is a certain daytime tv show with women on that constantly slag men off about what we cant do.

i don't know bout that coz i don't watch daytime tv but if you don't know the difference between women moaning that men "don't put the seat down" and alan partridge-esque comments like "See charming Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Yeah. Do me a favour love," then this discussion is pointless.

[9secondlegend]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

its true though , there is a certain daytime tv show with women on that constantly slag men off about what we cant do.

i don't know bout that coz i don't watch daytime tv but if you don't know the difference between women moaning that men "don't put the seat down" and alan partridge-esque comments like "See charming Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Yeah. Do me a favour love," then this discussion is pointless.

so these women arent being sexist by saying men dont know how to do the shopping , men cant drop the kids of properly at school / all men do is sit and watch tv and drink beer / men cant do 2 things at once etc etc?

[9secondlegend]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

[s1ty m]

keys would be my preferred sacking, he is loathesome. a know-nothing man pretending to be the font of all knowledge. horrible.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

its true though , there is a certain daytime tv show with women on that constantly slag men off about what we cant do.

i don't know bout that coz i don't watch daytime tv but if you don't know the difference between women moaning that men "don't put the seat down" and alan partridge-esque comments like "See charming Karren Brady this morning complaining about sexism? Yeah. Do me a favour love," then this discussion is pointless.

so these women arent being sexist by saying men dont know how to do the shopping , men cant drop the kids of properly at school / all men do is sit and watch tv and drink beer / men cant do 2 things at once etc etc?

like i say - if you don't know the difference....

i'm struggling to find a comparison that would be understandable....

but have you ever heard any of them say that a man can't present a tv programme coz they have a cock and are therefore infinitely inferior?:?

best i could come up with at short notice.

[carl_feedthegoat]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

Thats the UK for you mate...the most political correct country in the world.

There again there are some gimps that do not believe this to be the case - these people normally have their heads in the sand.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

women talk about equality but only when it suits them, would there be such a big deal if he said howard webb made a wrong decision and doesnt know the offside rule???

just moaning women wanting to have their cake and eat it, greedy bitches.

just my own opinion but you seem like an uneducated twat to me. bit of a cunt if you like...

not sure mate i agreed with what he said..

[Arjan Van Schotte]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

Thats the UK for you mate...the most political correct country in the world.

There again there are some gimps that do not believe this to be the case - these people normally have their heads in the sand.

define and discuss "political correctness" carl.

let me put it in easy terms for you - are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? coz the vast majority of punters are men... and about half of croupiers are women.

does gambling promote women above men?

[ross.mcfc]

Andy Gray is clearly a twat. I thought that before this Saturday and now it has been confirmed. However a sacking offense I think not.

Clearly something else has gone on and they were just looking for an excuse to get rid of him, why else would they leak the conversation in the first place, Sky News his own employers were doing a number on him all day yesterday, digging up the new video yesterday and then today which would have once again only came from them.

Gray works for ESPN in the states during a World Cup or Euro Championship. I don't doubt he will just get a gig over there or one of the many overseas feed companies.

[9secondlegend]

like i say - if you don't know the difference....

i'm struggling to find a comparison that would be understandable....

but have you ever heard any of them say that a man can't present a tv programme coz they have a cock and are therefore infinitely inferior?:?

best i could come up with at short notice.

they actually said somthing similar that men couldnt present "their" show as no one would watch it, but didnt involve the word cock as i dont believe you can say that on daytime tv.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

like i say - if you don't know the difference....

i'm struggling to find a comparison that would be understandable....

but have you ever heard any of them say that a man can't present a tv programme coz they have a cock and are therefore infinitely inferior?:?

best i could come up with at short notice.

they actually said somthing similar that men couldnt present "their" show as no one would watch it, but didnt involve the word cock as i dont believe you can say that on daytime tv.

mate - that's the point - i believe their show is "for women, by women" - but general football isn't. (shouldn't be). i understand there is some quite sexist stuff on tvx - but i don't watch that either.

i agree that "banter" between FRIENDS is harmless - the clip shown of gray with the microphone stuffing down the pants incident for example is ambiguous coz we don't know if he's best mates with the female presenter and she'd find it funny. she didn't seem to though.

however - the bit with keys going on about karren brady is just sinister.

i agree with you that too many people are offended (like that hurts) on behalf of others but i don't think that applies in this case.

the very fact that sky/NI sack gray and then put thE pic of the liner on the front page of our best selling newspaper (that thinks tits are ok at the family breakfast table) showing a bit of thigh and looking a bit sexy exposes the hypocrisy of this whole thing.

and i also agree with others that this whole episode is completely contrived to get gray sacked coz he's taking NI to court for other illegal practices.

the whole thing fucking stinks.

[carl_feedthegoat]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

Thats the UK for you mate...the most political correct country in the world.

There again there are some gimps that do not believe this to be the case - these people normally have their heads in the sand.

define and discuss "political correctness" carl.

let me put it in easy terms for you - are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? coz the vast majority of punters are men... and about half of croupiers are women.

does gambling promote women above men?

I would love to get into Political correctness in the UK but we would be here all day and the topic would get locked.

Women and men in Casinos?..depends which country you are in.

I prefer women in Casinos from top to bottom to be honest....as its a glam business - having said that it depends which country you are in.....some casinos have 70% women customers so it stands to reason to have majority men in the place than women but on the whole I will always have a 70 -30 women to men ratio.

On topic -Ill be fucked if I'm going to slate 2 toe rags on TV for the comments they came out with (Although Im very happy that rag has been sacked)...we all do it..male and female alike, so for some righteous bastards to come out with a "shock, horror, disgusting..sack the bastards type attitude is laughable in my opinion mate.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

Thats the UK for you mate...the most political correct country in the world.

There again there are some gimps that do not believe this to be the case - these people normally have their heads in the sand.

define and discuss "political correctness" carl.

let me put it in easy terms for you - are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? coz the vast majority of punters are men... and about half of croupiers are women.

does gambling promote women above men?

I would love to get into Political correctness in the UK but we would be here all day and the topic would get locked.

Women and men in Casinos?..depends which country you are in.

I prefer women in Casinos from top to bottom to be honest....as its a glam business - having said that it depends which country you are in.....some casinos have 70% women customers so it stands to reason to have majority men in the place than women but on the whole I will always have a 70 -30 women to men ratio.

On topic -Ill be fucked if I'm going to slate 2 toe rags on TV for the comments they came out with (Although Im very happy that rag has been sacked)...we all do it..male and female alike, so for some righteous bastards to come out with a "shock, horror, disgusting..sack the bastards type attitude is laughable in my opinion mate.

yeah but are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? being as you'd much rather have 70% women in a money game that's ruled by commercial interests?

[carl_feedthegoat]

dont get me wrong i hate the fucker and im not arsed about these women saying this stuff , its funny , as was grays and keyes comments , what fucks me off is people fucking complaining about politacal correct stuff and everyone is "offended" by somthing these days

irony eh.

Thats the UK for you mate...the most political correct country in the world.

There again there are some gimps that do not believe this to be the case - these people normally have their heads in the sand.

define and discuss "political correctness" carl.

let me put it in easy terms for you - are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? coz the vast majority of punters are men... and about half of croupiers are women.

does gambling promote women above men?

I would love to get into Political correctness in the UK but we would be here all day and the topic would get locked.

Women and men in Casinos?..depends which country you are in.

I prefer women in Casinos from top to bottom to be honest....as its a glam business - having said that it depends which country you are in.....some casinos have 70% women customers so it stands to reason to have majority men in the place than women but on the whole I will always have a 70 -30 women to men ratio.

On topic -Ill be fucked if I'm going to slate 2 toe rags on TV for the comments they came out with (Although Im very happy that rag has been sacked)...we all do it..male and female alike, so for some righteous bastards to come out with a "shock, horror, disgusting..sack the bastards type attitude is laughable in my opinion mate.

yeah but are men inherently better at being croupiers than women? being as you'd much rather have 70% women in a money game that's ruled by commercial interests?

Men are arguably better than women on the following games - craps and Roulette.(Aggressive games).women on card games(Finesse games)...dont ask me why as Ill be fucked if I know but that's the answer you will get from most casino "people"..

[BobbyJ1956]

Glad he's been sacked. Not because I never liked him, though I didn't, but because what he said was offensive, sexist, and smug. He thought he could say what he liked because he's a famous face on TV; well, anyone that pleased with themselves deserves to be brought down a peg. There's a long way to go before we all treat each other with respect and judge people just on their merits but if sackig Gray for doing what he did is a step in that direction, if only as a warning to other neanderthals to keep their daft mouths shut, that's alright.

[john@staustell]

Glad he's been sacked. Not because I never liked him, though I didn't, but because what he said was offensive, sexist, and smug. He thought he could say what he liked because he's a famous face on TV; well, anyone that pleased with themselves deserves to be brought down a peg. There's a long way to go before we all treat each other with respect and judge people just on their merits but if sackig Gray for doing what he did is a step in that direction, if only as a warning to other neanderthals to keep their daft mouths shut, that's alright.

I agree with you. And he drools over the RAGS. And he calls us 'Manchester United' frequently.

Mind you I suspect they wanted a change after 20 years, and this little incident has come as a Godsend to the Sky Sports hierarchy. If the didn't want to get rid, they wouldn't.