Patrick wrote:From today's telegraph...
Born miserable – some people genetically programmed to be negative
Some people cannot help being pessimistic, suggests a new study that found the amount of a chemical in the brain affects how we view the world.
brite blu sky wrote:Patrick wrote:From today's telegraph...
Born miserable – some people genetically programmed to be negative
Some people cannot help being pessimistic, suggests a new study that found the amount of a chemical in the brain affects how we view the world.
I rekon my old man suffers from this.. if not he has been doing a Nooly style pretense of it for a very long time. Anyways the point is having first hand experience of this I can add that despite having a pessimistic outlook, which some cite as a defence mechanism to lessen the blow of disappointment, the disappointment appears the same when it comes... with all the 'I knew this was going to happen' bollox, swiftly then moving on to moan about the next phase of dark oblivion.
So in essence the defence mechanism doesn't really work. I came to the conclusion growing up that there was simply no advantage to be gained by taking the pessimistic angle. That isn't to say not to consider how things might go wrong, but basically not dwelling on it, especially when as john68 points out up there^ as we are talking about the future, no-one knows what is around the corner. Assuming it is going to be gloom sets you up to be cautious and imo miss a whole load of opportunities. Who would invite a sour faced grump to a party?
Maybe it is genetic, maybe it is learned, maybe its genetic and some learn to make it worse while some deal with it, either way there is no advantage gained by negative thinking... and that's even when trying to take a positive view of it!
In fact i would challenge anyone who believes their pessimism to have healthy aspects to explain it.
john68 wrote:If there is one thing that has really annoyed me since I 1st registered on here, it's the attitude and wrong belief of so many City fans that we "always screw up". it is abject nonsense and it is just not true. Whether it's the media reportage or the constant taunting of the rags, I don't know but having spent so many years defending our club's record against fans of other clubs, it pisses me off that I seem to have to defend City's record against our own supporters.
It was funny for a short time and gave birth to our self deprecating sense of humour but more and more, it seems to have become ingrained in many City fans, as some sort of (false) reality.
Frannie Lee's "Cups for Cock ups" was meant as tongue in cheek. "Typical City" lends itself much to the rags and the media and since when did we have to allow those two areas of shite to dictate how we think about our club and our heritage?
In the recent past, it seems we were happy to allow this "City are shit" definition as a positive factor to show how long suffering, brave and loyal we were in the face of failure but we don't need to think like this anymore.
Thoughts please
"Wemberleee...Wemberleee....We're the famous Man City and we'll probably fuck up again against some really shit team, as usual...and we'll probably sit at home watching two other teams...when they go to Wemberlee"
Ted Hughes wrote:brite blu sky wrote:Patrick wrote:From today's telegraph...
Born miserable – some people genetically programmed to be negative
Some people cannot help being pessimistic, suggests a new study that found the amount of a chemical in the brain affects how we view the world.
I rekon my old man suffers from this.. if not he has been doing a Nooly style pretense of it for a very long time. Anyways the point is having first hand experience of this I can add that despite having a pessimistic outlook, which some cite as a defence mechanism to lessen the blow of disappointment, the disappointment appears the same when it comes... with all the 'I knew this was going to happen' bollox, swiftly then moving on to moan about the next phase of dark oblivion.
So in essence the defence mechanism doesn't really work. I came to the conclusion growing up that there was simply no advantage to be gained by taking the pessimistic angle. That isn't to say not to consider how things might go wrong, but basically not dwelling on it, especially when as john68 points out up there^ as we are talking about the future, no-one knows what is around the corner. Assuming it is going to be gloom sets you up to be cautious and imo miss a whole load of opportunities. Who would invite a sour faced grump to a party?
Maybe it is genetic, maybe it is learned, maybe its genetic and some learn to make it worse while some deal with it, either way there is no advantage gained by negative thinking... and that's even when trying to take a positive view of it!
In fact i would challenge anyone who believes their pessimism to have healthy aspects to explain it.
Imo there's a difference between thinking everything is about to go wrong & there's nothing you can do about it as opposed to thinking some things that needn't have been a problem, could go wrong because, by your actions, you're invitng it. The second is what represents 'typical City' imo & so far we're still at it.
I recon if you asked most City fans whether we CAN beat Utd on Sat, most will say yes. The note of pessimism will be whether the team & manager have the same belief. When that changes & our team goes to difficult away grounds expecting to win 'typical City' will disappear.
Chinners wrote:"Wemberleee...Wemberleee....We're the famous Man City and we'll probably fuck up again against some really shit team, as usual...and we'll probably sit at home watching two other teams...when they go to Wemberlee"
Thats quite catchy actually .... and true
uwes_skyblue_duvet wrote:I'm sure the first trophy we win will cure what ails me.
THis is how bad I've got it though:
Manchester City Council have just announced that they're axing loads of youth clubs, libraries, swimming pools, and all but one of their public toilets (thought it might be Old Trafford til I remembered that would be Trafford Borough Council?)
Now obviously, that's bad for the community, not least, it's practically forcing disaffected youth onto the streets and depriving families of much needed public services (and I bet they still arrest people for pissing in the street!).
BUT - even though I'm aware of the story and its regular broadcasting on today's news, when the newsgoblin starts to read, and starts with 'Manchester City Council...' - I nearly cack myself at the words 'Manchester City' being on the regular news at the start of an article, thinking something terrible has happened, like 'Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour has had one of the most bizarre change of hearts in sporting history, and decided to plough all of his finance into stamp-collecting, instead of overseeing what surely would have been the world dominating success of Manchester's only football club.....' or summat.
Patrick wrote:We already have a song John, one of my all time favourites......
We lost last week and we lost today
We never win at home and we never win away
We dont give a fuck cos were all pissed up
MCFC OK
Always cheers me up after a typical city day that!
Beeks wrote:Patrick wrote:We already have a song John, one of my all time favourites......
We lost last week and we lost today
We never win at home and we never win away
We dont give a fuck cos were all pissed up
MCFC OK
Always cheers me up after a typical city day that!
Definitely one of my faves Patrick
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