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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:58 pm

Rag_hater wrote:This year it seems we have been particularly bad at scoring from corners,but over the next few matches going by the stats if we get about another 6 or 7 goals it will be in line with what is normal however people will probably say because we have adopted a different approach,when nothing of the sort has happened.This is how it is for the top 4 teams in the prem.
This year so far them have scored 14 headers.
Arse have scored 7
Spurs 7.
Us yet to score in the prem methinks from a header.However if one looks back at last year when we were as apparently as bad as we wre this year:
Emanuel got 3 with his head,
Carlos got 2
Vincent got 2
SWP got 1
Patrick got 1 and Micah got 1.
So out of the 73 goal we got last year in the prem about 10 were headers.About average and not bad for a team thats apparently so bad at set pieces.
So if this year see us scoring a few less personally I won't see us being lacking just one of those years when things like this can happen.


Why do you have to insist on arguing about it ? You've looked iot up & you've realised what people are saying is correct. Just accept it & move on.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:20 pm

No point in arguing with a fool Ted.
The point is if we became more dangerous from set pieces we would score more goals. Therefore it is worth becoming better at set pieces.
Ther are no two ways about it.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:15 pm

Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:20 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:24 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:34 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.

Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:41 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.

Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.

I'm not saying that at all.I'm saying we are like every other fucker sometimes your'e lucky most of the time your'e not.Scoring from set pieces is luck,and we have had shit luck at this year.Its fuckall about being more dangerous at them we are doing everything right.We just haven't had the luck.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.

Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.

I'm not saying that at all.I'm saying we are like every other fucker sometimes your'e lucky most of the time your'e not.Scoring from set pieces is luck,and we have had shit luck at this year.Its fuckall about being more dangerous at them we are doing everything right.We just haven't had the luck.

What so United just get lucky every time they score a header or set piece late on in a game? And all Stoke's goals are lucky? There is no luck involved. It is a skill. Knock the ball into a good area and attack it.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:01 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.

Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.

I'm not saying that at all.I'm saying we are like every other fucker sometimes your'e lucky most of the time your'e not.Scoring from set pieces is luck,and we have had shit luck at this year.Its fuckall about being more dangerous at them we are doing everything right.We just haven't had the luck.


What you're saying is nonsense, & everyone who knows the slightest thing about football knows this. We try to have polite and amiable discussions with you but you insist on coming out with rubbish like this & it's childish & fucking stupid & annoying & just proves to everyone that you don't know what you are talking about. It's the football equivalent of believing that the Moon is made of cheese; EVERYONE knows for a fact that it's bollocks apart from you.

If you have any friends who watch football, ask them if they think scoring from set pieces is purely down to luck. If you know anyone who's ever played pro football, ask them. If you have any radio stations with football phone ins with ex footballers/managers, ask them. Even if you know the manager of a children's team, ask him or her. Failing that, read up on it via the internet etc.

You are making a fool of yourself.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:02 pm

Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.[/quote]
Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.[/quote]
I'm not saying that at all.I'm saying we are like every other fucker sometimes your'e lucky most of the time your'e not.Scoring from set pieces is luck,and we have had shit luck at this year.Its fuckall about being more dangerous at them we are doing everything right.We just haven't had the luck.[/quote]
What so United just get lucky every time they score a header or set piece late on in a game? And all Stoke's goals are lucky? There is no luck involved. It is a skill. Knock the ball into a good area and attack it.[/quote]

Yes that whiskeynosed twat's team are very very lucky.A good team can play a ball into a dangeroue area without relying on luck.Its a skill.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Kladze » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:44 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season.

Just take the point. If you are more dangerous from set pieces you will score more goals.
You're almost saying you want us to be crap from set pieces.
Stop being f'cking difficult.
I'm not saying that at all.I'm saying we are like every other fucker sometimes your'e lucky most of the time your'e not.Scoring from set pieces is luck,and we have had shit luck at this year.Its fuckall about being more dangerous at them we are doing everything right.We just haven't had the luck.


What you're saying is nonsense, & everyone who knows the slightest thing about football knows this. We try to have polite and amiable discussions with you but you insist on coming out with rubbish like this & it's childish & fucking stupid & annoying & just proves to everyone that you don't know what you are talking about. It's the football equivalent of believing that the Moon is made of cheese; EVERYONE knows for a fact that it's bollocks apart from you.

If you have any friends who watch football, ask them if they think scoring from set pieces is purely down to luck. If you know anyone who's ever played pro football, ask them. If you have any radio stations with football phone ins with ex footballers/managers, ask them. Even if you know the manager of a children's team, ask him or her. Failing that, read up on it via the internet etc.

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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:55 pm

Sometimes you can't play through opposition and that's when you need to have other options, eg being dangerous from set pieces.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby bluej » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:43 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Out of 103 goals Chelski scored last year the 8 or 9 they got from headers made the champs.
Cahill pretty dangerous from set pieces.Where are Toffees?
Lets make a bid for him so we can be as dangerous and Delap while were at it.

You just don't give in.
there are no two ways about it. Becoming more dangerous from set pieces = more goals.
Simple.


Having better players becoming a better team = more goals.
Simple.
[highlight]If you took the scum's 14 goals this year they would still be on the same as us its hardly changed their season[/highlight].


Yes but how many of those goals from set pieces won them additional points? For example I can recall their game against West brom off the top of my head, they scored the winner from a corner.

I daresay that during the games against Villa, Everton, Blackburn etc we all would have taken a goal from a corner having been unable to fashion a decent chance through open play.
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Re: 3 headers in one game

Postby Rag_hater » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:57 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Sometimes you can't play through opposition and that's when you need to have other options, eg being dangerous from set pieces.


I think we are dangerous enough from set pieces.Its just this year I don't think we have had the rub of the green.We have got tall player (but by seeing that someone like Cahill scores a lot with his head and Shrek has been top of the charts one year methinks I don't think that is a criteria )And despite what some are saying I think our delivery has been fine.With defenders there to counteract anything an attacker is trying to do it seems quite understandable that not every corner or cross will do what is intended.
And for example for an indicator of a teams luck as some of you seem to think a team can be lucky is the extreme of foolishness.
Take Shrek's goal against us in this last Derby.Although it wasn't a corner for me it is an example of their luck.If someone is telling me that the fact Nani's cross seemed to deflect of Zabba and Shrek didn't quite connect with the ball 100% and that was all skill and no element of luck they truely are deluded.






bluej
Yes but how many of those goals from set pieces won them additional points? For example I can recall their game against West brom off the top of my head, they scored the winner from a corner.

I daresay that during the games against Villa, Everton, Blackburn etc we all would have taken a goal from a corner having been unable to fashion a decent chance through open play. quote
















You are probably right but the point swing it would cause is arguable and I think it would be of an ammount that would still make it maybe in their favour or very close nontheless.I don't think taking their headed goals of them would make them like Everton or Villa or the Dippers.
And a goal from open play in the last minute would be just as welcome for me as a set piece.
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