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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Goaters 103 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:17 pm

From BBC's Dan Roan

Reliable source tells me substance Toure tested for is "not performance-enhancing, and was unintentional" - suggests supplement/remedy

...but if so, begs question as to why Man City's ranks of medical staff didn't know what he was taking and if it contained banned substance

Toure is refusing to comment tonight, as has been told by City not to say anything at this time.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby bluej » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:21 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
kennyboy wrote:Apperently it was found out after the Scum match, and i tought he was injured..

So now we are stuck with Lescott...ohh dear god, would love too see this back four;

Kolarov - Kompany - Richards - Zabaleta


I like Lescott - I think he holds a good line. Don't forget we've got a couple of budding youngsters who can come in like Boyata (though thinking about it he might still be a bit green).


*Doffs cap*

You're on a roll tonight.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:26 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
blues2win wrote:Coumadin isn't a dietary substance, it's a blood thinner. It's actually the same substance as rat poison! If a rat ingests enough it will haemorrage and die. People are prescribed it because they have a tendency to develop blood clots which could threaten their lives. I can't believe that anyone would take that other than on prescription and the vast majority who are prescribed it are elderly people.


I have two of my best mates that take whafarin/blood thinkers BOTH in there 40's one because he got DVT, the other because of a defribulating heart condition, so not only for oldies. Yes it will kill a fookin rat, if doses are correct, do you think humans would be prescribed it if fatal!!! So will many other things, total bollox!!

For now, he is innocent until otherwise proven guilty, simple as.

Suspension is automatic like it would be any job where drug testing is present.


Word.


I assume you meant to put a question mark that? Opposed 'word' meaning in slang terms that you agree?

Deep vain thrombis (SP?) Caused in his case by too much flying. Which is more common in older people mainly in hospital beds from not moving around enough, a circulatory problem I believe?
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:30 pm

bluej wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
kennyboy wrote:Apperently it was found out after the Scum match, and i tought he was injured..

So now we are stuck with Lescott...ohh dear god, would love too see this back four;

Kolarov - Kompany - Richards - Zabaleta


I like Lescott - I think he holds a good line. Don't forget we've got a couple of budding youngsters who can come in like Boyata (though thinking about it he might still be a bit green).


*Doffs cap*

You're on a roll tonight.


doff plus 2 lol.

i like that shit.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:30 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:From BBC's Dan Roan

Reliable source tells me substance Toure tested for is "not performance-enhancing, and was unintentional" - suggests supplement/remedy

...but if so, begs question as to why Man City's ranks of medical staff didn't know what he was taking and if it contained banned substance

Toure is refusing to comment tonight, as has been told by City not to say anything at this time.

Hopefully by reliable source he means the FA or someone independent of Toure.

Gave me a shock that news. I am sure City had good reason to say so little (normally the less said the better), but if it is a non performance enhancing substance, why not just name it on the web-site so people don't blacken Kolo's name
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:32 pm

marvin wrote:if it is a non performance enhancing substance, why not just name it on the web-site so people don't blacken Kolo's name


exactly - why not?

coz he done bad - even the thick footballers aren't that thick.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby blues2win » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:35 pm

Alioune Toure mate you missed my point which wasn't total bollox. The great majority of people prescribed coumadin are elderly. I didn't say all people. It would be very unusual for someone as young as Toure to be prescribed although obviously not unheard of. The point about rat poison was just to underscore that it is a medicine not a recreational drug. I can't imagine anyone taking coumadin except on prescription by a doctor for a medical condition. If that was the case the Club would have known about it in advance and it could be proven he was acting on doctor's orders. It doesn't add up. i don't believe it.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:43 pm

blues2win wrote:Alioune Toure mate you missed my point which wasn't total bollox. The great majority of people prescribed coumadin are elderly. I didn't say all people. It would be very unusual for someone as young as Toure to be prescribed although obviously not unheard of. The point about rat poison was just to underscore that it is a medicine not a recreational drug. I can't imagine anyone taking coumadin except on prescription by a doctor for a medical condition. If that was the case the Club would have known about it in advance and it could be proven he was acting on doctor's orders. It doesn't add up. i don't believe it.


Au contraire, baby, I think it's you who might've misunderstood me.

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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:45 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
blues2win wrote:Coumadin isn't a dietary substance, it's a blood thinner. It's actually the same substance as rat poison! If a rat ingests enough it will haemorrage and die. People are prescribed it because they have a tendency to develop blood clots which could threaten their lives. I can't believe that anyone would take that other than on prescription and the vast majority who are prescribed it are elderly people.


I have two of my best mates that take whafarin/blood thinkers BOTH in there 40's one because he got DVT, the other because of a defribulating heart condition, so not only for oldies. Yes it will kill a fookin rat, if doses are correct, do you think humans would be prescribed it if fatal!!! So will many other things, total bollox!!

For now, he is innocent until otherwise proven guilty, simple as.

Suspension is automatic like it would be any job where drug testing is present.


Word.


I assume you meant to put a question mark that? Opposed 'word' meaning in slang terms that you agree?

Deep vain thrombis (SP?) Caused in his case by too much flying. Which is more common in older people mainly in hospital beds from not moving around enough, a circulatory problem I believe?


And shite, obscure French "strikers". Or "immigrant wankers" if you're the mcf.net poet laureate Paul McLaren.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:46 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:From BBC's Dan Roan

Reliable source tells me substance Toure tested for is "not performance-enhancing, and was unintentional" - suggests supplement/remedy

...but if so, begs question as to why Man City's ranks of medical staff didn't know what he was taking and if it contained banned substance

Toure is refusing to comment tonight, as has been told by City not to say anything at this time.


This is The Manchester City medical staff we're talking about - not a proper medical staff! I am not surprised at anything where they are involved.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:48 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
marvin wrote:if it is a non performance enhancing substance, why not just name it on the web-site so people don't blacken Kolo's name


exactly - why not?

coz he done bad - even the thick footballers aren't that thick.

Own goal there

"the FA has informed Kolo Toure that an ‘A-sample’ provided by him has tested positive for a specified substance."

I repeat City say the FA say it's a specified substance. All you have to do is google that and you can find that there's specific meaning to that phrase.

The statement has been very carefully worded.

Of course it's ambiguous because so little has been said, but I think you are wrong and too hasty by far to condemn your own
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:54 pm

marvin wrote:
Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
marvin wrote:if it is a non performance enhancing substance, why not just name it on the web-site so people don't blacken Kolo's name


exactly - why not?

coz he done bad - even the thick footballers aren't that thick.

Own goal there

"the FA has informed Kolo Toure that an ‘A-sample’ provided by him has tested positive for a specified substance."

I repeat City say the FA say it's a specified substance. All you have to do is google that and you can find that there's specific meaning to that phrase.

The statement has been very carefully worded.

Of course it's ambiguous because so little has been said, but I think you are wrong and too hasty by far to condemn your own


i'm not condemning "my own". am saying that for the club to suspend someone who earns in 6 days what i earn in a year before the fa have even had a proper chance to look at this - he's deffo guilty of summat.

of course the statement has been carefully worded. they'd get done too otherwise.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:56 pm

Specified - So it's been identified but they're not going to tell us what it is? More 'unspecified' in that regard.

I suppose we've got to start at marmalade and work our way up to meth in guessing what he's imbibed. Could be a fun game.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Sister of fu » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:00 pm

blues2win wrote:Supposedly a substance in a dietary supplement according to Sky. I just wish these footballers would realise you don't take anything except normal food and drink without checking with the medical staff.



They know full well not to take anything without passing it by medical staff first that includes things such as asthma inhailer's, headache tablets, cough medicine, nasal sprays and even sports drinks. There are lists of ingredients that are banned at every club in the country so I'm baffled how this has happend.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby blues2win » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:04 pm

We should start by reading people's posts before commenting on them. I never said that ONLY elderly people take coumadin only that it would be unusual for someone in his 20s to be prescribed it. It would. If you seriously think he was taking coumadin on the sly you're entitled to your opinion. To coin a phrase I think it's total bollox.

There again tbf I should take my own advice because I meant to reply to CTID Hampshire.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:05 pm

Sister of fu wrote:
blues2win wrote:Supposedly a substance in a dietary supplement according to Sky. I just wish these footballers would realise you don't take anything except normal food and drink without checking with the medical staff.



They know full well not to take anything without passing it by medical staff first that includes things such as asthma inhailer's, headache tablets, cough medicine, nasal sprays and even sports drinks. There are lists of ingredients that are banned at every club in the country so I'm baffled how this has happend.


Conspiracy theory:

Jo went to spike Dzeko's probiotic yoghurt (to get him banned and clear his own path back into the team). However, predictably, he missed and it went in Kolo's yoghurt instead. Jo's ruined our season and Kolo's career.

Fuck off back to the circus Sideshow Bob.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:07 pm

I love it when these things happen. Everyone's either ITK or a doctor.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby the_georgian_genius » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:07 pm

Kolo is tested on 12th February, the physio is relieved of his duties on 17th February. Are the two linked your reckon? Was the physio sacked for making this error?
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:08 pm

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:I love it when these things happen. Everyone's either ITK or a doctor.


Unless you're the club doctor, then you're probably both.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby PeterParker » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:09 pm

I didn't watched the news, but they named the substance he took?
Maybe was a screw up by him, remember he had malaria a while ago and maybe he took again some medicine, without the club's doctor approval.
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