Gary Cook email

[irblinx]

On the lighter side, I know most people on here hate Oliver Holt with a passion but at least he is consistent in his hatred of Cook!! http://twitter.com/#!/OllieHoltMirror

It's actually really sad how much he hates our club and, especially, Cook.

Even worse is the fact that over 70k people follow him on Twitter and want to know exactly what's on his mind.

I think a lot of people also follow the likes of Joey Barton and Charlie Sheen, doesn't mean they give any credence to the crap they come out with!

[Chinners]

Sadly, you know most of them actually do take notice thou ....

[irblinx]

Sadly, you know most of them actually do take notice thou ....

What of Joey Barton???? Say it aint so

[Kippax]

Hmmmmm! Difficult one this or is it?

Think everyone knows that I am a huge fan of Garry Cook, never used to be it has to be said but he has grown on me the more I have got to know him and appreciate his work. Wouldn't say I'm a mate but have got to know him over he last couple of years and particularly from the tours. Found him very approachable as he is with all supporters as has been proved with his meet the fans walkabouts in Schalke and Denmark. More Importantly I have found him to be human particularly. During the South Africa tour and last years tour of The States.[scroll][/scroll]

OK, he has been prone to the odd gaff, but in reality have any of them been that bad. The bottle it one was spot on, we were used from day one there. The comments about Frank- can't recall him at any time actually saying he liked the fellow he more liked danced round he question. The Uwe one was unfortunate and in all probability a joke that went wrong. With regard to this one, well- we have all been guilty of it at some stage making light of others misfortunes Cookies mistake was seemingly getting caught doing it.

We don't know whether or not there were any other circumstances leading up to this either, I am however aware Of something going on at about that time that may have been a contributing factor but I am not at liberty to discuss it. Sorry, that kind of makes that comment dead.

The whole timing of this does, I'm afraid smack of Kias involvement. It is widely known that KIA has had an unhealthy amount of power and access within the club over the last few years and that he has been using the Daily Mail as his mouthpiece for his outpourings in return for them promoting stories in a favourable light when he wants to move a player on. It is also widely known that Marwood and Cook have been trying hard of the last couple of years to freeze him out, and their hard ball policy regarding Tevez and seemingly Ned's failure to find a suitable outcome to his future during the transfer window has obviously riled Kia.

I'm not trying to make light of what Cookie has seemingly done, and I have absolutely no doubt that Ned's Mum has been upset by the whole affair, but it seems strange that she was so upset that she now wants to drag it all up through the papers again when almost a year has passed by, and I can't really see why she would think that The League and the FA would get involved. No, I see this as an attempt to muddy the waters and make things difficult for Gary. Also, if she is handling Ned's affairs then why is KIA on board anyway? It surprises me that Ned has got involved with Kia. Again, I have spoken to Ned quite a few time and have always found him a delight to talk to. Very sensible and level headed so he must have known that if he hooked up with Kia it would role a few people at the club

This matter really needs to be resolved at the earliest opportunity but in my opinion it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Cook. He has been heavily instrumental on the business dealings over the last two years and also bringing the fans and the club closer together. Inviting fans to the kit launch has been a big plus for me as well as the fans zone which as heavily suggested following the trips to Schalke and Hamburg. I'm not saying all the Ideas are his but he has the ability to get things done. He is also highly regarded within the club by staff and in the business world. Anyway you don't necessarily have to like someone to see what an asset they are. I've employed quite a few people who I dislike but respect their work

It's a no brainer in my view, cook should stay, he's too valuable to lose at this stage and it would be very hard to bring someone in who could hit the ground running, unless you promote from within, and I don't think that we quite have anyone of that acumen. Although Danny Wilson would be a good bet in three or four years time. If, and only if, Cook has sent this email then there should be a humble and sincere apology in private and the matter pit to rest with a statement saying the matter has been resolved. Case closed.

Kippax.

[BlueinBosnia]

Welcome back again Kippax! Third post in almost 18 months- was hoping for something pre-season. I guess now we're in CL, there'll be far fewer trips to footballing backwaters to read your reports from :(

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Kippax pretty much sums it up there I think.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Hmmmmm! Difficult one this or is it?

Think everyone knows that I am a huge fan of Garry Cook, never used to be it has to be said but he has grown on me the more I have got to know him and appreciate his work. Wouldn't say I'm a mate but have got to know him over he last couple of years and particularly from the tours. Found him very approachable as he is with all supporters as has been proved with his meet the fans walkabouts in Schalke and Denmark. More Importantly I have found him to be human particularly. During the South Africa tour and last years tour of The States.[scroll][/scroll]

OK, he has been prone to the odd gaff, but in reality have any of them been that bad. The bottle it one was spot on, we were used from day one there. The comments about Frank- can't recall him at any time actually saying he liked the fellow he more liked danced round he question. The Uwe one was unfortunate and in all probability a joke that went wrong. With regard to this one, well- we have all been guilty of it at some stage making light of others misfortunes Cookies mistake was seemingly getting caught doing it.

We don't know whether or not there were any other circumstances leading up to this either, I am however aware Of something going on at about that time that may have been a contributing factor but I am not at liberty to discuss it. Sorry, that kind of makes that comment dead.

The whole timing of this does, I'm afraid smack of Kias involvement. It is widely known that KIA has had an unhealthy amount of power and access within the club over the last few years and that he has been using the Daily Mail as his mouthpiece for his outpourings in return for them promoting stories in a favourable light when he wants to move a player on. It is also widely known that Marwood and Cook have been trying hard of the last couple of years to freeze him out, and their hard ball policy regarding Tevez and seemingly Ned's failure to find a suitable outcome to his future during the transfer window has obviously riled Kia.

I'm not trying to make light of what Cookie has seemingly done, and I have absolutely no doubt that Ned's Mum has been upset by the whole affair, but it seems strange that she was so upset that she now wants to drag it all up through the papers again when almost a year has passed by, and I can't really see why she would think that The League and the FA would get involved. No, I see this as an attempt to muddy the waters and make things difficult for Gary. Also, if she is handling Ned's affairs then why is KIA on board anyway? It surprises me that Ned has got involved with Kia. Again, I have spoken to Ned quite a few time and have always found him a delight to talk to. Very sensible and level headed so he must have known that if he hooked up with Kia it would role a few people at the club

This matter really needs to be resolved at the earliest opportunity but in my opinion it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Cook. He has been heavily instrumental on the business dealings over the last two years and also bringing the fans and the club closer together. Inviting fans to the kit launch has been a big plus for me as well as the fans zone which as heavily suggested following the trips to Schalke and Hamburg. I'm not saying all the Ideas are his but he has the ability to get things done. He is also highly regarded within the club by staff and in the business world. Anyway you don't necessarily have to like someone to see what an asset they are. I've employed quite a few people who I dislike but respect their work

It's a no brainer in my view, cook should stay, he's too valuable to lose at this stage and it would be very hard to bring someone in who could hit the ground running, unless you promote from within, and I don't think that we quite have anyone of that acumen. Although Danny Wilson would be a good bet in three or four years time. If, and only if, Cook has sent this email then there should be a humble and sincere apology in private and the matter pit to rest with a statement saying the matter has been resolved. Case closed.

Kippax.

Fantastic post altogether; well done Kippax.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Hmmmmm! Difficult one this or is it?

Think everyone knows that I am a huge fan of Garry Cook, never used to be it has to be said but he has grown on me the more I have got to know him and appreciate his work. Wouldn't say I'm a mate but have got to know him over he last couple of years and particularly from the tours. Found him very approachable as he is with all supporters as has been proved with his meet the fans walkabouts in Schalke and Denmark. More Importantly I have found him to be human particularly. During the South Africa tour and last years tour of The States.[scroll][/scroll]

OK, he has been prone to the odd gaff, but in reality have any of them been that bad. The bottle it one was spot on, we were used from day one there. The comments about Frank- can't recall him at any time actually saying he liked the fellow he more liked danced round he question. The Uwe one was unfortunate and in all probability a joke that went wrong. With regard to this one, well- we have all been guilty of it at some stage making light of others misfortunes Cookies mistake was seemingly getting caught doing it.

We don't know whether or not there were any other circumstances leading up to this either, I am however aware Of something going on at about that time that may have been a contributing factor but I am not at liberty to discuss it. Sorry, that kind of makes that comment dead.

The whole timing of this does, I'm afraid smack of Kias involvement. It is widely known that KIA has had an unhealthy amount of power and access within the club over the last few years and that he has been using the Daily Mail as his mouthpiece for his outpourings in return for them promoting stories in a favourable light when he wants to move a player on. It is also widely known that Marwood and Cook have been trying hard of the last couple of years to freeze him out, and their hard ball policy regarding Tevez and seemingly Ned's failure to find a suitable outcome to his future during the transfer window has obviously riled Kia.

I'm not trying to make light of what Cookie has seemingly done, and I have absolutely no doubt that Ned's Mum has been upset by the whole affair, but it seems strange that she was so upset that she now wants to drag it all up through the papers again when almost a year has passed by, and I can't really see why she would think that The League and the FA would get involved. No, I see this as an attempt to muddy the waters and make things difficult for Gary. Also, if she is handling Ned's affairs then why is KIA on board anyway? It surprises me that Ned has got involved with Kia. Again, I have spoken to Ned quite a few time and have always found him a delight to talk to. Very sensible and level headed so he must have known that if he hooked up with Kia it would role a few people at the club

This matter really needs to be resolved at the earliest opportunity but in my opinion it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Cook. He has been heavily instrumental on the business dealings over the last two years and also bringing the fans and the club closer together. Inviting fans to the kit launch has been a big plus for me as well as the fans zone which as heavily suggested following the trips to Schalke and Hamburg. I'm not saying all the Ideas are his but he has the ability to get things done. He is also highly regarded within the club by staff and in the business world. Anyway you don't necessarily have to like someone to see what an asset they are. I've employed quite a few people who I dislike but respect their work

It's a no brainer in my view, cook should stay, he's too valuable to lose at this stage and it would be very hard to bring someone in who could hit the ground running, unless you promote from within, and I don't think that we quite have anyone of that acumen. Although Danny Wilson would be a good bet in three or four years time. If, and only if, Cook has sent this email then there should be a humble and sincere apology in private and the matter pit to rest with a statement saying the matter has been resolved. Case closed.

Kippax.

Long time and all that! Good to see you are still around there somewhere. And I still owe you 35 quid.

I agree about not getting rid of Cook. Not because I like him, I don't, but because he is the kind of character needed in modern day top succesfull club. He has no hesitations being ruthless and it's ruthless game.

[irblinx]

It's a no brainer in my view, cook should stay, he's too valuable to lose at this stage and it would be very hard to bring someone in who could hit the ground running, unless you promote from within, and I don't think that we quite have anyone of that acumen. Although Danny Wilson would be a good bet in three or four years time. If, and only if, Cook has sent this email then there should be a humble and sincere apology in private and the matter pit to rest with a statement saying the matter has been resolved. Case closed.

I obviously bow to your far greater knowledge of the inner workings of the club but I still believe that this is unacceptable behaviour and not punishing it on the grounds that Cook is too valuable to the club is a very rocky road to start down. In business email should be treated with exactly the same attitude as writing a letter, it is a formal means of communication and this is a serious misuse. If he sent the email then as the COO and very public face of the club his position is untenable.

As I posted earlier, although it is blatantly obvious that the timing of this getting to the press is very iffy what is worse is that after 12 months the club is not in a position to make an immediate statement of what was done to sort it out. Stating that we are starting an investigation now intimates, wrongly or rightly, that there is some doubt over the result of the originally enquiry. Whilst there is sometimes smoke without even the slightest spark, especially with the British media involved, absence of any hard facts from the club just leads to the press calling open season on us.

[saulman]

I can't believe people are making such a big deal about this. Is it only me that thinks this isn't unnacceptable behaivour?
It was an honest mistake. Nothing more. If Neds mum is so upset, then Cook should apologise.

Shit happens. Simple as that. Move on.

This is not a big deal. We just need some more games to help this blow over.

Any talk of Cook going over this is as stupid as it is bollocks.

[Wooders]

joorchaban denies being involved with Nedum today

[ant london]

I obviously bow to your far greater knowledge of the inner workings of the club but I still believe that this is unacceptable behaviour and not punishing it on the grounds that Cook is too valuable to the club is a very rocky road to start down. In business email should be treated with exactly the same attitude as writing a letter, it is a formal means of communication and this is a serious misuse. If he sent the email then as the COO and very public face of the club his position is untenable.
.

Sorry mate that last part if nonsense.

I fully appreciate your views in that the email sent is unacceptable behaviour.....in an ideal world he should be punished but any "appropriate" punishment (ie. dismissal/forced resignation) is going to hurt the club more than it will help it.

It's a bit like the Tevez thing. He made the club look like cunts but forcing him out/selling on the cheap damages the club and so even though he acted appallingly...they didn't do so.

I actually couldn't give a monkeys if he sent the mail at the time following the quite contemptible behaviour of the Onuohas. I dont want to see Nedum anywhere a City shirt ever again

[Kippax]

Not sure quite what youean by yOur post Irblinx. Are you saying that all emails should be restricted to business use, because this was quie clearly supposed to be a private email between Garry and Brian. I am also slightly troubled by the hysteria being generated on the evidence provided. In the quote from the email there are just those words "ravaged by it" there is no direct mention of M/s Onoua or inference to her. If I was to lose my job purely on that evidence then I would be slightly more Than aggrieved. Does it mean that Garry cannot use the word ravaged in an email for a certain amount of cooling off time. We are all suppositioning here although it would seem with quite a good deal of accuracy but nevertheless to lose your job on that evidence is madness

BlueinBosnia: hi mate. Had a great time following them last year and read all Spivs reports with interest specially the one from Kiev. Must hang out with riff raff that boy because I never had any trouble Lol Think I will leave the reporting to someone else again this year as I still don't have time to trawl the site. But hope everyone keeps up the good work

NQDP- "Long time no see and all that?" what happened to Hi mate, where have you been? I've really missed you! Lol. The £35.00 has accrued a marginal sum of interest over the years and of course there is still the matter of agents fees etc to be resolved. :) Could be your way again in a few months mate. Was over there before but had a full work schedule Cheers Antti

Kippax

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[Hazy2]

Maybe the mayor of Manchester should be looking at deporting Tevez, for ruining the expected trade in M/cr this year and for yrs to come with his Manchester is Shit. I would love to see the text/emailing between KJ and Tevez, Cook this Marwood that. Media wankers making up a story.

[Goaters 103]

Kippax - an excellent post and summation.

City have 2 choices, either bow to a tabloid feeding frenzy, fuelled by a slimy Agent and several hacks with an agenda or .... we circle the wagons, go siege mentality and stick with Cook just to bollox the lot of them off. Id say we go with the latter.

[Lev Bronstein]

Hmmmmm! Difficult one this or is it?

Think everyone knows that I am a huge fan of Garry Cook, never used to be it has to be said but he has grown on me the more I have got to know him and appreciate his work. Wouldn't say I'm a mate but have got to know him over he last couple of years and particularly from the tours. Found him very approachable as he is with all supporters as has been proved with his meet the fans walkabouts in Schalke and Denmark. More Importantly I have found him to be human particularly. During the South Africa tour and last years tour of The States.[scroll][/scroll]

OK, he has been prone to the odd gaff, but in reality have any of them been that bad. The bottle it one was spot on, we were used from day one there. The comments about Frank- can't recall him at any time actually saying he liked the fellow he more liked danced round he question. The Uwe one was unfortunate and in all probability a joke that went wrong. With regard to this one, well- we have all been guilty of it at some stage making light of others misfortunes Cookies mistake was seemingly getting caught doing it.

We don't know whether or not there were any other circumstances leading up to this either, I am however aware Of something going on at about that time that may have been a contributing factor but I am not at liberty to discuss it. Sorry, that kind of makes that comment dead.

The whole timing of this does, I'm afraid smack of Kias involvement. It is widely known that KIA has had an unhealthy amount of power and access within the club over the last few years and that he has been using the Daily Mail as his mouthpiece for his outpourings in return for them promoting stories in a favourable light when he wants to move a player on. It is also widely known that Marwood and Cook have been trying hard of the last couple of years to freeze him out, and their hard ball policy regarding Tevez and seemingly Ned's failure to find a suitable outcome to his future during the transfer window has obviously riled Kia.

I'm not trying to make light of what Cookie has seemingly done, and I have absolutely no doubt that Ned's Mum has been upset by the whole affair, but it seems strange that she was so upset that she now wants to drag it all up through the papers again when almost a year has passed by, and I can't really see why she would think that The League and the FA would get involved. No, I see this as an attempt to muddy the waters and make things difficult for Gary. Also, if she is handling Ned's affairs then why is KIA on board anyway? It surprises me that Ned has got involved with Kia. Again, I have spoken to Ned quite a few time and have always found him a delight to talk to. Very sensible and level headed so he must have known that if he hooked up with Kia it would role a few people at the club

This matter really needs to be resolved at the earliest opportunity but in my opinion it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Cook. He has been heavily instrumental on the business dealings over the last two years and also bringing the fans and the club closer together. Inviting fans to the kit launch has been a big plus for me as well as the fans zone which as heavily suggested following the trips to Schalke and Hamburg. I'm not saying all the Ideas are his but he has the ability to get things done. He is also highly regarded within the club by staff and in the business world. Anyway you don't necessarily have to like someone to see what an asset they are. I've employed quite a few people who I dislike but respect their work

It's a no brainer in my view, cook should stay, he's too valuable to lose at this stage and it would be very hard to bring someone in who could hit the ground running, unless you promote from within, and I don't think that we quite have anyone of that acumen. Although Danny Wilson would be a good bet in three or four years time. If, and only if, Cook has sent this email then there should be a humble and sincere apology in private and the matter pit to rest with a statement saying the matter has been resolved. Case closed.

Kippax.

So, to sum up, Gary Cooke is bigger than the club.

[saulman]

So, to sum up, Gary Cooke is bigger than the club.

That was sarcasm, right?

[Lev Bronstein]

So, to sum up, Gary Cooke is bigger than the club.

That was sarcasm, right?

Nope, serious point. Hopefully, he'll be found innocent of any offence. However. (and I won't list what's wrong about the email again) should it transpire that he sent the message, then, sorry, he has to go.

The club should have standards that all employees are expected to stick to. Gary Cooke isn't a teenage academy player whose age and immaturity could be cited as mitigating factors, he's probably the most senior employee in the organisation, so should be the most vigorous in maintaining those standards.

[ant london]

what a load of guff Lev....if he sent this then it was clearly a mistake. Yes very unfortunate ineptitude in doing so but in no way shape or form can I consider that to represent any type of "gross misconduct" or something that would compel him to fall on his sword.

It's a load of rubbish stirred by some unpleasant people with massive axes to grind. The club should just pay lip service to an investigation, let it drag on and then brush it under the carpet and then get Nedum training with the reserves for the rest of his contract. Stupid stupid lad

[brite blu sky]

sorry but how the f*** people can get so incensed and take as legit something coming from so many people with axes to grind i really do not know. The only words you need to read into this before doing something far more interesting.. like err... making a cup of tea.
are:
Custis: The Sun: Daily Mail: Kia Jorb.... : a pissed off Nedum & a pissed off Ned's Mum

That really sums the whole thing up until City say something on the matter.