If Tevez Ends Up Staying Wold You Play Him? [poll]

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If He Stays Would You Play Him?

Yes. He is a great player and you should always play your best team
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No. If a player doesn't want to play for us he shouldn't be in the team
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He can be back up for Aguero
40
26%
I am unable to form an opinion of my own.
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Re: If Tevez Ends Up Staying Wold You Play Him? [poll]

Postby PALUS » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:04 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Reading some of the comments it's quite clear to see people are harbouring some discontent where Carlos is concerned, even to the lengths that they will make up wild stuff in an attempt to discredit what was actually a decent first performance. My view is, if you hate the fucker then tell us you hate him for smashing your granny's back doors in, but at least post reasoned stuff when it's got to do with his on-field play. You know it makes sense.

PS. I'm a Carlos Licker and have no qualms in criticising him when required, just like any other player out there in the shirt.

PPS. AJ was really shit yesterday, but I'll put that down to it being his 1st full game also.

yap he play good first half and he is greath player and i agree this is most out of- pitch tevez well hate is to much but many people dislike him , but cant say he play bad yestrday just penalty was bad .
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Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:06 pm

PALUS wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Reading some of the comments it's quite clear to see people are harbouring some discontent where Carlos is concerned, even to the lengths that they will make up wild stuff in an attempt to discredit what was actually a decent first performance. My view is, if you hate the fucker then tell us you hate him for smashing your granny's back doors in, but at least post reasoned stuff when it's got to do with his on-field play. You know it makes sense.

PS. I'm a Carlos Licker and have no qualms in criticising him when required, just like any other player out there in the shirt.

PPS. AJ was really shit yesterday, but I'll put that down to it being his 1st full game also.

yap he play good first half and he is greath player and i agree this is most out of- pitch tevez well hate is to much but many people dislike him , but cant say he play bad yestrday just penalty was bad .

There was even a chorus of 'Carlos Tevez is a Blue.....' yesterday, so maybe some at the ground are realising what an asset he can be for us.
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Postby 1950 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.
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Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:26 pm

1950 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.


If you hand the job over to another player, especially a new one like Aguero or Dzeko, they could just as easily fuck up; new (ish) club, extra pressure etc, then you'd look a right charlie for taking it off a bloke who's scored most of them.
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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:30 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
1950 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.


If you hand the job over to another player, especially a new one like Aguero or Dzeko, they could just as easily fuck up; new (ish) club, extra pressure etc, then you'd look a right charlie for taking it off a bloke who's scored most of them.


Aguero wanted to take that pen but Tevez refused....apparently.
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Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:37 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
1950 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.


If you hand the job over to another player, especially a new one like Aguero or Dzeko, they could just as easily fuck up; new (ish) club, extra pressure etc, then you'd look a right charlie for taking it off a bloke who's scored most of them.


Aguero wanted to take that pen but Tevez refused....apparently.


Well it's not uncommon for players to try & nick penalties off the established taker. Not many get away with it though & when they do they often miss it.
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Re: If Tevez Ends Up Staying Wold You Play Him? [poll]

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:38 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
1950 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.


If you hand the job over to another player, especially a new one like Aguero or Dzeko, they could just as easily fuck up; new (ish) club, extra pressure etc, then you'd look a right charlie for taking it off a bloke who's scored most of them.


Aguero wanted to take that pen but Tevez refused....apparently.


Well it's not uncommon for players to try & nick penalties off the established taker. Not many get away with it though & when they do they often miss it.


Exactly, whose to say Aguero would do any better?
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Re: If Tevez Ends Up Staying Wold You Play Him? [poll]

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:40 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
1950 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:No idea but you don't just change the pen taker unless he starts to miss regularly for the club, no matter who is waiting in the wings.


I disagree. Tevez was never a specialist taking penalties. Even when he didn't miss them for a while, you could see that some were very lucky. He just smacked them somewhere in the middle & hoped for the best. If you get a player who's better at it, let him take them.

I wouldn't want to wait until his dodgy penalties cost us points.


If you hand the job over to another player, especially a new one like Aguero or Dzeko, they could just as easily fuck up; new (ish) club, extra pressure etc, then you'd look a right charlie for taking it off a bloke who's scored most of them.


Aguero wanted to take that pen but Tevez refused....apparently.


Well it's not uncommon for players to try & nick penalties off the established taker. Not many get away with it though & when they do they often miss it.


Is it not the Captains job to butt in and decide?
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Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:43 pm

Well if Tevez misses another then Bob will probably replace him but it's not an exact science & anyone can miss. Also, if we get pens & Tevez isn't on the pitch, then someone new may stake a claim to be the penalty taker by knocking a few good ones in, therefore making the decision easier. Tevz' record for us must be pretty good though & he's taken some high pressure ones.

Imo, the furore about moving has upset his game a bit in front of goal & he needs a goal to get him going. A pen at 1-0 at home to Wigan is a pretty good time to try & achieve that.

Re the captain, if you've got an established taker, why would you change it ?
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Re: If Tevez Ends Up Staying Wold You Play Him? [poll]

Postby Buffalo Soldier » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:47 pm

Could be wrong but I only remember him missing 2 for us including yesterday? Know he scored about his first 10 in a row for us, couldn't really give a fuck if he missed every single one for Argentina so that shouldn't really be a factor.

Having said that, I'd love Aguero to bag a fuck load this season so he gets my vote to take over as soon as.

Not saying you're lying Carl, but where did you hear Aguero wanted to take the penalty? There didn't seem to be any dispute at the game and he doesn't mention it in his post match interview, he even says that Carlos is the penalty taker and he would expect him to get the next one.
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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:01 pm

Buffalo Soldier wrote:Could be wrong but I only remember him missing 2 for us including yesterday? Know he scored about his first 10 in a row for us, couldn't really give a fuck if he missed every single one for Argentina so that shouldn't really be a factor.

Having said that, I'd love Aguero to bag a fuck load this season so he gets my vote to take over as soon as.

Not saying you're lying Carl, but where did you hear Aguero wanted to take the penalty? There didn't seem to be any dispute at the game and he doesn't mention it in his post match interview, he even says that Carlos is the penalty taker and he would expect him to get the next one.


I read it on some feed on newsnow mate...Ill try and find it.

Could be trying to stir the shit but here it is.......

SERGIO AGUERO'S treble sent an awesome title warning as Manchester City kept up the pace on champions, leaders and neighbours United.
Carlos Tevez missed a penalty on his first start of the season and City hit the woodwork twice but victory was never in doubt.

And they could easily have netted before Aguero slotted a 13th minute opener following a pull-back from his man-of-the-match rival David Silva.


Tevez missed from the spot before Micah Richards and Vincent Kompany were denied by the goal-frame.

Then Aguero tucked home on 63 and 69 minutes.

City certainly made light of the upheaval caused by the exit of shamed chief executive Garry Cook.

And boss Roberto Mancini could even afford to be leave out Edin Dzeko, scorer of four goals last time out, keeping him fresh for City's Champions League debut against Napoli on Wednesday.

The hosts showed their threat in the opening minutes when Adam Johnson brought down the ball nicely but produced a shot only a golfer would have been proud of, lofted over the bar.

Silva brought a comfortable save out of Ali Al Habsi, before Joleon Lescott headed over from a couple of yards out.

The writing already looked to be on the wall for Wigan, and so it proved as Aguero fired home.

Tevez was involved, scampering down the left before cutting the ball inside to Silva. His feint wrong-footed Wigan and he fed Aguero, on the right of the area, who shot through Figueroa's legs into the far corner.

If it seemed ominous for Wigan, they were nearly back in the game when Figueroa's ball over the defence caught Vincent Kompany sleeping and Franco Di Santo poked the ball past Joe Hart, but wide of the post too.

Tevez hardly endeared himself to the City fans further by having a weak penalty saved.
Silva won the spot-kick, felled by a crazy lunge from Adrian Lopez, and though Aguero appeared to keen to take it, Tevez insisted.

Aguero continued to impress, bending a shot from the left just past the top corner, then Johnson blasted a couple of yards high from 25 yards.

Richards hit the underside of the crossbar after a lovely Tevez through-ball - the assistant referee correctly judging the ball did not bounce over the line - before some more Aguero magic saw the Argentinian go inches wide again.

City fans could hardly believe their side were not two up when first Lescott headed against the upright and then Yaya Toure rifled the rebound narrowly passed the other post.

Wigan had had little to shout about and when Victor Moses did get his head to a free-kick he was unable to find the target.

With half-time looming, Hart demonstrated his importance to City with a one-on-one block to deny Di Santo after a deflected shot landed at his feet.

City began the second half in much the same fashion - chances galore without the finishing touch.

Such wastefulness seemed to be inviting Wigan to respond, and they came agonisingly close to doing so when the impressive Moses fed Hugo Rodallega and he teed himself for a fierce drive that Hart managed to keep out by a combination of his hand and leg.

That sparked the end of Tevez's afternoon, replaced by Samir Nasri, and almost immediately City made the game safe.

Nasri was involved as well, nudging a backheel from Silva into Aguero's path and his perfectly-placed curling shot ended up nestling low in the corner of the net.

Aguero's hat-trick arrived courtesy of more outstanding play from Silva.

The spaniard spun off his markers and delivered a gorgeous through-ball. Aguero just needed to keep his cool, doing so with aplomb, rolling the ball past Al Habsi.

With the game wrapped up Mancini sent on Mario Balotelli for his hat-trick hero, who departed to a deafening standing ovation.

Johnson should have made it 4-0 but shot too close to the keeper, before curling another chance wide.

There may be no Cook at City any more - but this was still a feast.
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Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:17 pm

'Appeared'.

If this is the best we can do for an argument, I'm off to the fucking pub. I feel this is beneath me. If only Hargreaves could have got on for 10 mins. I won't be here for the Brum game when he's pencilled in either. Bugger.
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Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:43 pm

It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decides differently that's how it will remain.
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Postby PALUS » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:48 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decided differently that's how it will remain.

but u all agree as i see that he is poor penalty taker and that maybe somthimes cen cost us a points
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Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:49 pm

PALUS wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decided differently that's how it will remain.

but u all agree as i see that he is poor penalty taker and that maybe somthimes cen cost us a points

I don't think he's poor. His record for us is something like 10/13 i'd guess. H's lacking a bit of confidence.
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Postby PALUS » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decided differently that's how it will remain.

but u all agree as i see that he is poor penalty taker and that maybe somthimes cen cost us a points

I don't think he's poor. His record for us is something like 10/13 i'd guess. H's lacking a bit of confidence.

ok then wath is the big problem
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Postby Chinners » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:53 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decides differently that's how it will remain.


This.

He's bagged loads for us over the last two seasons whether people consider him a 'natural' penalty taker or not, his record is ace, but it was a poor one from him yesterday. (as long as they are scored the artistic merit of them means jackshit to me)
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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:56 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:'Appeared'.

If this is the best we can do for an argument, I'm off to the fucking pub. I feel this is beneath me. If only Hargreaves could have got on for 10 mins. I won't be here for the Brum game when he's pencilled in either. Bugger.


Its pissing down with rain...what else is there to do but argue a point..even a half point!?
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Postby PALUS » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:56 pm

Chinners wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:It doesn't matter who won it or whether Aguero wanted it. Tevez is our penalty taker and until Bob decides differently that's how it will remain.


This.

He's bagged loads for us over the last two seasons whether people consider him a 'natural' penalty taker or not, his record is ace. (as long as they are scored the artistic merit of them means jackshit to me)

normal who the fuck cares is it artistic or not it s a goal but when he s not playing who then is taking penaltis...
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Postby Dameerto » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:14 pm

Yaya should be the pen taker - he hits it so hard that even if the keeper gets to it the ball would probably take him with it. I've never seen anyone kick a ball as hard.
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