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Postby TheGOAT » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:35 pm

Why has it not been mentioned anywhere that it was clearly offside!?
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby ayrshireblue » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:44 pm

I thought at the time that Gomez was off when the Bayern player flicked it on but rewound after and I'm positive that he was onside.
The ref had almost as bad a game as some of our players though. Both our penalty shouts and Konpany's block on Riberry were define penalties.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:44 pm

TheGOAT wrote:Why has it not been mentioned anywhere that it was clearly offside!?

More concerned about the absolute shite defending. And he was inactive until after the initial header.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:50 pm

He was onside (I think) but anyway, the goal wasn't caused by a refereeing decision it was caused by Barry completely switching off at a set piece.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby zuricity » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:56 pm

Kladze wrote:He was onside (I think) but anyway, the goal wasn't caused by a refereeing decision it was caused by Barry completely switching off at a set piece.


True, watching it in a bar in "old München" after the game Gomez looked onside.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby TheGOAT » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:15 pm

Just watched it again... think Kolo's right foot just plays him onside, but it is very close, probably as close as it gets to being onside. Still it wasn't even mentioned at all on any tv coverage!

...i dont get why someone said it was Barry's fault
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby paddyblue » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:30 pm

he was onside, i had to watch it a few times to be certain
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:31 pm

TheGOAT wrote:Just watched it again... think Kolo's right foot just plays him onside, but it is very close, probably as close as it gets to being onside. Still it wasn't even mentioned at all on any tv coverage!

...i dont get why someone said it was Barry's fault



because Barry is target number one when Lescott isnt playing ( or is it 2 after Yaya?)
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:54 pm

TheGOAT wrote:Just watched it again... think Kolo's right foot just plays him onside, but it is very close, probably as close as it gets to being onside. Still it wasn't even mentioned at all on any tv coverage!

...i dont get why someone said it was Barry's fault


Barry is the first man defending the free kick. He is watching the ball when he should be less square on to enable him to see both the ball AND the Bayern forward, then he would have been able to take that extra step forward to stop the flick on.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:04 pm

Kladze wrote:
TheGOAT wrote:Just watched it again... think Kolo's right foot just plays him onside, but it is very close, probably as close as it gets to being onside. Still it wasn't even mentioned at all on any tv coverage!

...i dont get why someone said it was Barry's fault


Barry is the first man defending the free kick. He is watching the ball when he should be less square on to enable him to see both the ball AND the Bayern forward, then he would have been able to take that extra step forward to stop the flick on.


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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby TheGOAT » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:38 pm

It was just a good freekick! You can't expect Barry to anticipate EXACTLY where the delivery is going to be, thats just rediculous! If the blame is anyones it is Kolo Toure's for concentrating to hard on his man and not reacting to the save, but as i say he was so close to being offside he might not have got to it first anyway.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:39 pm

TheGOAT wrote:It was just a good freekick! You can't expect Barry to anticipate EXACTLY where the delivery is going to be, thats just rediculous! If the blame is anyones it is Kolo Toure's for concentrating to hard on his man and not reacting to the save, but as i say he was so close to being offside he might not have got to it first anyway.


Sorry but it's basic defending from that kind of free kick. You CAN expect Barry to anticipate the zone where the delivery might be made to - he didn't, and more to the point. he didn't give himself a chance to do so.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:42 pm

Kladze wrote:
TheGOAT wrote:It was just a good freekick! You can't expect Barry to anticipate EXACTLY where the delivery is going to be, thats just rediculous! If the blame is anyones it is Kolo Toure's for concentrating to hard on his man and not reacting to the save, but as i say he was so close to being offside he might not have got to it first anyway.


Sorry but it's basic defending from that kind of free kick. You CAN expect Barry to anticipate the zone where the delivery might be made to - he didn't, and more to the point. he didn't give himself a chance to do so.


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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby simon12 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:51 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Kladze wrote:
TheGOAT wrote:It was just a good freekick! You can't expect Barry to anticipate EXACTLY where the delivery is going to be, thats just rediculous! If the blame is anyones it is Kolo Toure's for concentrating to hard on his man and not reacting to the save, but as i say he was so close to being offside he might not have got to it first anyway.


Sorry but it's basic defending from that kind of free kick. You CAN expect Barry to anticipate the zone where the delivery might be made to - he didn't, and more to the point. he didn't give himself a chance to do so.


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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby dazby » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:43 pm

And that sir is why no one has mentioned it being offside. Because it wasn't. Not even close.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:17 am

dazby wrote:And that sir is why no one has mentioned it being offside. Because it wasn't. Not even close.

Oh, it was close, but level is onside.

If you are the kind of City fan who needs to have someone to blame for everything, how about blaming the bloke who stupidly gave away the free-kick in the first place?
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:20 am

I have seen it 3 or 4 times and it was off side on each occasion in my opinion, the attacker had hes head ahead of the line of defense and that is Offside in anyones rules
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby TheGOAT » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:36 am

dazby wrote:And that sir is why no one has mentioned it being offside. Because it wasn't. Not even close.


It was as close as it gets! Do you not know the rules?
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Plain Speaking » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:42 am

Wonderwall wrote:I have seen it 3 or 4 times and it was off side on each occasion in my opinion, the attacker had hes head ahead of the line of defense and that is Offside in anyones rules

I agree I said this on the night and have also reviewed it many times since. It definitely appears 100% offside!
Problem is the usual camera view along the line wasnt used.
Having said that it doesnt matter now. Ditto with the two penalty appeals. I dont expect as high standard of refereeing in CL as we get in the PL.
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Re: Bayerns second goal

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:15 pm

Plain Speaking wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I have seen it 3 or 4 times and it was off side on each occasion in my opinion, the attacker had hes head ahead of the line of defense and that is Offside in anyones rules

I agree I said this on the night and have also reviewed it many times since. It definitely appears 100% offside!
Problem is the usual camera view along the line wasnt used.
Having said that it doesnt matter now. Ditto with the two penalty appeals. I dont expect as high standard of refereeing in CL as we get in the PL.

Certainly not away from home or against "big" teams who have won the competition before.
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