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Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:19 pm

Great work by the club, hope this is sorted in the two weeks but if not we can just suspend him for another two. I'm also glad he can't go to training.
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Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:22 pm

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Postby irblinx » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:28 pm

Presumably 2 weeks is the maximum allowed within his contract pending a full review. Immediate backing for the manager (as immediate as a room full of lawyers would probably allow, and not forgetting that we are currently without a CEO) has to be good news
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Postby CTID Hants » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:29 pm

paddyblue wrote:its going to be a big problem after the suspension if the owners want him back in the squuuad, to maintain his value
then what does mancini do


This is where Zabba and any other Spanish speaking players on the bench will key witnesses imo, everyone, including players on the pitch will be called. I wouldnt be surprised if they didn't also involve a Spanish speaking forensic lip reader as there was cameras loomed in on the twat. There is, afterall a lot riding on this, IF he gets nothing m
ore than a slap wrist after the hearing then Mancini will walk imo.

either way, as said already it will be very done with the clubs best interests at heart, I am confident we won't be looking for a new manager anytime soon (fingers crossed).
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Postby Vantage » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:38 pm

Tevez suspended?

Hopefully by the ball-sack from a flyover on the A57, Doug can you confirm pls?

Some interesting legal wrangling awaits. I think Carlito thinks he can force the club into sacking him to engineer a move elsewhere. On the one had that would be ideal we can cut our losses and run on the other why give him the satisfaction? A fight between club and player would give UEFA more ammo against us and would probably result in us being threatened with expulsion from the CL/Waffa Cup if we forced him to train with the kids or held onto his registration for too long. He has clearly received legal advice overnight hence the back track "oh I thought you said "you've got an itch" not "get on the pitch you fuzzy little gremlin" The two week window will probably result in termination of his contract for gross misconduct.

The owners will not be impressed with the disloyalty however he is still an asset of the club and as such has a re-sale value. I would not be surprised if Inter emmerge and offer 15m to take him off our hands, at which point we bite their hands off at the shoulder. The only place he could go would be Anzhi Makhachkala with Eto'o and if he trys this sh*t there they will blow his head off.

Sad but I think we all knew it would end like this. Two lessons learned from last night a) no one is bigger than the club (Edin sits next to teacher at the weekend) c) CL football is different class and if you snooze you get bum raped.
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Postby WiganBlue » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:42 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15093522

Limavady United's loan offer to Manchester City's Carlos Tevez

Irish League club Limavady United have offered Manchester City superstar Carlos Tevez an escape route from his troubles with the Premier League club.

The County Londonderry team's vice-chairman David Brewster faxed City on Wednesday afternoon offering to take the multi-million pound striker on loan for the rest of the season.

It follows City manager Roberto Mancini's vow that Tevez would never play for him again after the Argentina international failed to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich in a Uefa Champions League game on Tuesday night.

Limavady United play in the second tier of Northern Ireland football, with opponents including Harland and Wolff Welders and Ballinamallard FC.

Mr Brewster said the club would be willing to take Tevez on loan and keep him fit, if City agreed to continue to pay his wages.

"Pursuant to the well publicised comments of your manager yesterday evening to the effect that Carlos Tevez would not be permitted to play for your club again, may I on behalf of Limavady United FC indicate our willingness to assist you with a difficult problem," his statement said.

"We would be perfectly willing to take Mr Tevez on loan for the remainder of the season or until transfer, thereby permitting him to play football but without the risk of being cup-tied for the Champions League.

"Limavady United play in the championship in Northern Ireland and our manager would be happy to accommodate Mr Tevez within his squad.

"Naturally, our club would not be in a position to discharge Mr Tevez's wages but I am sure you can see the advantages of keeping him match fit prior to any possible sale."

The offer has yet to receive a response from Manchester City.

The BBC has learned Tevez feels his row with boss Roberto Mancini was about warming up and not a refusal to play.

The 27-year-old felt he was ready to play when asked to prepare to come on in the second half of the 2-0 defeat.

Tevez blamed "confusion on the bench" for the "misunderstanding" in a statement on Wednesday.

In his statement, Mr Brewster said he looked forward to Manchester City's "early reply to permit us to complete the necessary paperwork with the Irish Football Association if the matter is to proceed".
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Postby Beeks » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:44 pm

Vantage wrote:Tevez suspended?

Hopefully by the ball-sack from a flyover on the A57, Doug can you confirm pls?

Some interesting legal wrangling awaits. I think Carlito thinks he can force the club into sacking him to engineer a move elsewhere. On the one had that would be ideal we can cut our losses and run on the other why give him the satisfaction? A fight between club and player would give UEFA more ammo against us and would probably result in us being threatened with expulsion from the CL/Waffa Cup if we forced him to train with the kids or held onto his registration for too long. He has clearly received legal advice overnight hence the back track "oh I thought you said "you've got an itch" not "get on the pitch you fuzzy little gremlin" The two week window will probably result in termination of his contract for gross misconduct.

The owners will not be impressed with the disloyalty however he is still an asset of the club and as such has a re-sale value. I would not be surprised if Inter emmerge and offer 15m to take him off our hands, at which point we bite their hands off at the shoulder. The only place he could go would be Anzhi Makhachkala with Eto'o and if he trys this sh*t there they will blow his head off.

Sad but I think we all knew it would end like this. Two lessons learned from last night a) no one is bigger than the club (Edin sits next to teacher at the weekend) c) CL football is different class and if you snooze you get bum raped.


FIFA Vice President is backing us to the hilt..says if we can prove Tevez refused to play they can ban him from playing the game full stop

He says that if Tevez can pull this stunt..what's to stop others from doing the same

I reckon this could be huge..ironically we could be the start of the end of player power
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Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:46 pm

Vantage wrote:Tevez suspended?

Hopefully by the ball-sack from a flyover on the A57, Doug can you confirm pls?

Some interesting legal wrangling awaits. I think Carlito thinks he can force the club into sacking him to engineer a move elsewhere. On the one had that would be ideal we can cut our losses and run on the other why give him the satisfaction? A fight between club and player would give UEFA more ammo against us and would probably result in us being threatened with expulsion from the CL/Waffa Cup if we forced him to train with the kids or held onto his registration for too long. He has clearly received legal advice overnight hence the back track "oh I thought you said "you've got an itch" not "get on the pitch you fuzzy little gremlin" The two week window will probably result in termination of his contract for gross misconduct.

The owners will not be impressed with the disloyalty however he is still an asset of the club and as such has a re-sale value. I would not be surprised if Inter emmerge and offer 15m to take him off our hands, at which point we bite their hands off at the shoulder. The only place he could go would be Anzhi Makhachkala with Eto'o and if he trys this sh*t there they will blow his head off.

Sad but I think we all knew it would end like this. Two lessons learned from last night a) no one is bigger than the club (Edin sits next to teacher at the weekend) c) CL football is different class and if you snooze you get bum raped.


Which flyover will it be?
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Postby Beeks » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:47 pm

Fifa - Tevez should be banned
Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce believes Manchester City should terminate the contract of Carlos Tevez after Roberto Mancini claimed the Argentina striker refused to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich.

In a wide-ranging interview with Sky Sports News in Belfast, Boyce says world football's governing body could prevent Tevez from playing for a new club immediately, should City end his contract.

Tevez issued a statement on Wednesday morning and denied he had refused to play.

But Boyce told Sky Sports News: "If he has done what has been said, and it appears there is no doubt about it - no matter what has been said this morning - then I think his club would be better off with him not being part of it."

"I don't think you can have someone at a club who has refused to go on the field of play, no matter who they are."
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Asked directly if Tevez's contract should be terminated, Boyce responded: "Without a shadow of doubt. I don't think you can have someone at a club who has refused to go on the field of play, no matter who they are.

Exact circumstances

"If Manchester City Football Club prove it, write to Fifa and state the exact circumstances that happened last night then I believe Fifa should have the power, as they do for drugs-related cases and other cases, to ban the player from taking an active part in football.

"I would have no problem with that whatsoever. It hasn't occurred before but I think what happened last night was despicable."

Boyce, who is life president of the Irish Football Association, says Fifa could prevent him for immediately playing for another club, if City sacked him.

"If this player did what he has been accused of doing, then if Manchester City were to release him tonight I don't think it would be right if he could go and earn a considerable amount of money somewhere else next week," added Boyce.

"I would have no problems if some sanctions were imposed by Fifa in that respect. People within the clubs and within the top level of Fifa need to discuss this aspect of the game.

"If Carlos Tevez does it, who's to say someone else doing it the next week or the week after? It could become a massive problem."
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Postby CTID Hants » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:00 pm

Fook me, those sound like comprehensive (not out of context words) from someone very up high, ok,ok fifa are hardly above recourse in the world of footie, but this sound quite damning for ***** (hopefully former No 32).

Question begs for any of you who know more about his scum agent, does he have any allies within fifa? Or has Boyce's comments count for nothing really?
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Postby brite blu sky » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:10 pm

The press backed Mancini last night, straight away. It is a no brainer in that sense. Tevez didn't really have any friends before and now he has none. The official voice of football will fall into line as this sort of thing is completely and totally unacceptable and everyone knows it. You dont have to be a genius to work out that there is no reason for Mancini to lie about anything and all the reason in the world for Tevez to act like a petulant child. He is toast and everyone will back toasting him.

As for the owners and the club there is no way on planet earth they will not back Mancini. They will be just as everyone else totally appalled by Tevez. From what we have seen of them I'd expect them to be cool and polite. But the machinery of law they can truck in will be frightening and I'd imagine that any loss of value could also be pinned on Tevez's actions. 50mil to 15 mil would be a shortfall of 35mil, damages and loss to City of other reasonable earnings or effect could be another 20+mil.

How did Chelsea pin 20mil damages on Mutu ?

I hope you have saved some cash Carlos you may well find you need it so you can give it back to City.
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Postby brite blu sky » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:18 pm

Adrian Mutu must pay Chelsea £14.65m after losing his appeal against a Fifa ruling for a breach of contract.
The striker, who cost the Blues £15m in 2003, was sacked a year later after he tested positive for cocaine and given a seven-month worldwide football ban.
Fifa issued the ruling last year but Mutu described it as "inhumane and unjust" and said he would appeal.
However, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) has ruled against the 30-year-old, who now plays for Fiorentina.
"The Cas panel concluded that the appeal brought by the player was to be dismissed and the measure of damages, as awarded by Fifa's Dispute Resolution Chamber (DRC), was to be confirmed," said a Cas statement.

"Adrian Mutu must therefore pay 17,173,990 euros to Chelsea FC."


So the fine was determined by Fifa and upheld by them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8178248.stm
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Postby Blue Blood » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:21 pm

Wonderwall wrote:TEVEZ SUSPENDED

for 2 weeks

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/20 ... -statement


This better be the start of the punishment.

A two week slap on the wrist would be utterly unacceptable to me.

Sounds like Bobby is meeting the sheikh tomorrow, hopefully he will act to back bob and remove Tevez for good.
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Postby halnone » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:26 pm

I can't see top clubs paying exorbitant fees to bring him in now.
Seems like he'll be back in South America very soon.
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Postby Whassat » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:28 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/15101077.stm

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Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce has said the organisation should have the power to ban players who refuse to play.

Boyce said he would have no problem if Manchester City sacked Carlos Tevez - if proven he refused to come on as a substitute against Bayern Munich.

The former Irish Football Association president said Fifa should then be able to ban Tevez.

Boyce said this would stop players "earning a considerable amount of money somewhere else next week".
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People within the clubs and within the top level of FIFA have to consider that if Carlos Tevez does it, who's to stop someone else doing it the next week or the week after?

Jim Boyce Fifa vice-president

City boss Roberto Mancini claimed Tevez had refused to come on as a substitute in the Champions League match on Tuesday night.

But the player has since denied that. Tevez has been suspended by City for up to two weeks.

Mancini has already said the striker's career at the club is over.

Boyce, who said he was speaking in a personal capacity, told Sky Sports: "I believe Fifa should have the power to ban the player from taking an active part in football.

"If he has done what has been said then I think his club would be better off without him.

"If Manchester City prove it, write to FIFA and state the exact circumstances that happened, I would have no problem with that whatsoever. It hasn't occurred before but I think what happened was despicable."

Boyce, who is a life president of the Irish Football Association after being president from 1995 until 2007, said Fifa would be within its rights to prevent him signing for a rival club if City sacked Tevez.

"If this player did what he has been accused of doing, then if Manchester City were to release him I don't think it would be right if he could go and earn a considerable amount of money somewhere else next week," said Boyce.

"I would have no problems if some sanctions were imposed by Fifa in that respect.

"People within the clubs and within the top level of Fifa have to consider that if Carlos Tevez does it, who's to stop someone else doing it the next week or the week after?"
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Postby Dameerto » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:34 pm

This is big - 'pending a full review' (the official announcement) leads me to believe they are checking the facts ahead of legal action. It's out of Mancini's hands now.
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Postby Mike J » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:38 pm

Would fucking love it if FIFA gave him a massive ban.
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Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 pm

Mike J wrote:Would fucking love it if FIFA gave him a massive ban.


Me too, we sack him then Fifa ban him for the remainder of his contract, seems fair to me.
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Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:07 pm

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:
Mike J wrote:Would fucking love it if FIFA gave him a massive ban.


Me too, we sack him then Fifa ban him for the remainder of his contract, seems fair to me.


Still leaves City taking a £30-40 million hit though, and while it wouldn't bother me I'm not sure the club - for all their wealth - would like it.

Unless, of course, we could legally claim it back from Tevez.
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Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:08 pm

Just heard Gab Marcotti intimating he can see a scenario where Tevez issues an apology and he sneaks back into the fold until he's sold. Marcotti is usually quite on the ball but I dont think he's read how low Tevez has sunk in the fans or the clubs eyes.

Put it this way, if Tevez ever wore our kit again Mancini would quit for sure as his position would be untenable. Id be sending back my Seasoncard and asking for a refund too, which though of far less importance, indicates how strongly I feel on this issue and Im guessing Im not the only one.
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