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Re: New striker in jan

Postby manci7y » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:59 am

I really don't think we need a new striker. Let's bring one of the kids through. We dropped the ball by not signing Connor Wickham....
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:54 am

Bent scores goals but has a 1st touch like the Yorkshire Ripper & would cock up our pass & move. He would also miss lots of chances in big games.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Slim » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:35 am

dazby wrote:Neymar swap deal. 2 birds one stone transfer.


Except he is as egotistical and sulky as Tevez and we'd be revisiting the same situation in 18 months.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:48 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Bent scores goals but has a 1st touch like the Yorkshire Ripper & would cock up our pass & move. He would also miss lots of chances in big games.


Lovely analysis Ted.

If Bent was worth his salt, he would have been snapped up long before now by Chelski, The Scum, Liverpuddle or Arsenic.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:21 am

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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:23 am

Rag_hater wrote:Ronaldinho



Geoff Hurst.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:23 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Ronaldinho



Geoff Hurst.


Darío Silva.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:45 pm

CityGer wrote:Someone wwho is quick. Apart from Aguero and to an extent Balo our attacking options lack pace.

I'd like to us see bring in someone who is lightening fast.


So your basically saying the Dzecko is slow......
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby bluej » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:16 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Bent scores goals but has a 1st touch like the Yorkshire Ripper & would cock up our pass & move. He would also miss lots of chances in big games.


Exactly. Plus the fact he has already moved for silly money to Villa means we'd have to pay an eye watering amount, as well as the January premium on top of that.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:28 pm

Promote Bunn to the senior squad and buy fucking noone.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Kladze » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:07 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Promote Bunn to the senior squad and buy fucking noone.


Well said Carl.

Even WE have to promote someone from our youth ranks occasionally. And if it backfires on us we'll just have to bite the bullet.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Buffalo Soldier » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:32 pm

Kladze wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Promote Bunn to the senior squad and buy fucking noone.


Well said Carl.

Even WE have to promote someone from our youth ranks occasionally. And if it backfires on us we'll just have to bite the bullet.


Fine, but he's going to have to change his name first. There's no fucking chance someone called Harry Bunn would ever be a top premiership player. Ashley Grimes suffered the same problem and look where he's playing now.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:48 pm

As I said earlier in the thread, Bunn needs a bit of 1st team experience perhaps as sub in a League Cup game before being promoted to the 4th striker job. He may not be up to it yet. He may never be up to it; or he may be excellent, it's impossible to tell at this stage.

In the Sturridge thread, we had loads of people taking the piss out of Ched Eveans & slagging off the fact that he was given games to try & prove himself. Ched Evans worked for & deserved that chance as reward for a long series of outstanding goalscoring performances but didn't look anything like the same player when played at the top level. Harry Bunn is equally or even more impressive, quicker but not so well built. We need to handle him with care. Nothing is certain.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:22 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:As I said earlier in the thread, Bunn needs a bit of 1st team experience perhaps as sub in a League Cup game before being promoted to the 4th striker job. He may not be up to it yet. He may never be up to it; or he may be excellent, it's impossible to tell at this stage.

In the Sturridge thread, we had loads of people taking the piss out of Ched Eveans & slagging off the fact that he was given games to try & prove himself. Ched Evans worked for & deserved that chance as reward for a long series of outstanding goalscoring performances but didn't look anything like the same player when played at the top level. Harry Bunn is equally or even more impressive, quicker but not so well built. We need to handle him with care. Nothing is certain.

I completely understand where you're coming from but I think there's a different perspective. Ched Evans did play well at youth level but when you see Sturridge play you can just see he has a touch of quality about him. Yes he may of been a twat and greedy but looking at him play, he had ability, he could fashion a chance out of nothing. That's something which is hard to teach, some players just have a bit of flair about them, eg Robinho, Silva. I firmly believe if the quality is there then it just takes the right management and coaching to turn them into great players. As I said in another thread Nani is a classic example. He was poor for the first few seasons but you could always tell he had ability and he now is a much better player, his decision making has vastly improved.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:08 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:As I said earlier in the thread, Bunn needs a bit of 1st team experience perhaps as sub in a League Cup game before being promoted to the 4th striker job. He may not be up to it yet. He may never be up to it; or he may be excellent, it's impossible to tell at this stage.

In the Sturridge thread, we had loads of people taking the piss out of Ched Eveans & slagging off the fact that he was given games to try & prove himself. Ched Evans worked for & deserved that chance as reward for a long series of outstanding goalscoring performances but didn't look anything like the same player when played at the top level. Harry Bunn is equally or even more impressive, quicker but not so well built. We need to handle him with care. Nothing is certain.

I completely understand where you're coming from but I think there's a different perspective. Ched Evans did play well at youth level but when you see Sturridge play you can just see he has a touch of quality about him. Yes he may of been a twat and greedy but looking at him play, he had ability, he could fashion a chance out of nothing. That's something which is hard to teach, some players just have a bit of flair about them, eg Robinho, Silva. I firmly believe if the quality is there then it just takes the right management and coaching to turn them into great players. As I said in another thread Nani is a classic example. He was poor for the first few seasons but you could always tell he had ability and he now is a much better player, his decision making has vastly improved.


I'm sorry but Sturridge still isn't the player you're describing now. He's a bit part player who has done next to nothing at PL level so far apart from a brief scoring spell at Bolton & I recon he'll end up with Wellbeck & Co at West Brom or similar (or Bolton). Also, if I put a highlights/goals package together from the 2 at youth team level, Sturridge scored some lovely goals at times but was often a waste of space. Ched Evans would wipe the floor with him at that level. He scored some absolutely amazing goals, as well as tap ins, diving headers, he was unselfish, intelligent, strong, skillful, fearless & could shoot with both feet like a fucking cannon. He scored twice from the fucking halfway line. When he got in the 1st team, he blundered around like a bull in a china shop. Whether it's nerves, growth (putting on too much muscle) big headedness, alcoholism, girls, drugs, I've no fucking idea, but the player we saw bore no resemblence to the earlier version. He deserved his chance as much as Harry Bunn does though, maybe more.

All the people on here being smartarsed after the fact on Ched Evans will say 'oh let's chuck in Harry Bunn' but how many games are they willing to give him? It was wrong apparently, to give Ched evans a few games because he wasn't instantly fantastic so how many does Harry get before he's written off by the same experts? How good did Weiss look btw ? Where is he ?

We need to be careful here. Give him a nice easy start, keep the pressure off & let him sneak in through the League Cup or something.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:26 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:As I said earlier in the thread, Bunn needs a bit of 1st team experience perhaps as sub in a League Cup game before being promoted to the 4th striker job. He may not be up to it yet. He may never be up to it; or he may be excellent, it's impossible to tell at this stage.

In the Sturridge thread, we had loads of people taking the piss out of Ched Eveans & slagging off the fact that he was given games to try & prove himself. Ched Evans worked for & deserved that chance as reward for a long series of outstanding goalscoring performances but didn't look anything like the same player when played at the top level. Harry Bunn is equally or even more impressive, quicker but not so well built. We need to handle him with care. Nothing is certain.

I completely understand where you're coming from but I think there's a different perspective. Ched Evans did play well at youth level but when you see Sturridge play you can just see he has a touch of quality about him. Yes he may of been a twat and greedy but looking at him play, he had ability, he could fashion a chance out of nothing. That's something which is hard to teach, some players just have a bit of flair about them, eg Robinho, Silva. I firmly believe if the quality is there then it just takes the right management and coaching to turn them into great players. As I said in another thread Nani is a classic example. He was poor for the first few seasons but you could always tell he had ability and he now is a much better player, his decision making has vastly improved.


I'm sorry but Sturridge still isn't the player you're describing now. He's a bit part player who has done next to nothing at PL level so far apart from a brief scoring spell at Bolton & I recon he'll end up with Wellbeck & Co at West Brom or similar (or Bolton). Also, if I put a highlights/goals package together from the 2 at youth team level, Sturridge scored some lovely goals at times but was often a waste of space. Ched Evans would wipe the floor with him at that level. He scored some absolutely amazing goals, as well as tap ins, diving headers, he was unselfish, intelligent, strong, skillful, fearless & could shoot with both feet like a fucking cannon. He scored twice from the fucking halfway line. When he got in the 1st team, he blundered around like a bull in a china shop. Whether it's nerves, growth (putting on too much muscle) big headedness, alcoholism, girls, drugs, I've no fucking idea, but the player we saw bore no resemblence to the earlier version. He deserved his chance as much as Harry Bunn does though, maybe more.

All the people on here being smartarsed after the fact on Ched Evans will say 'oh let's chuck in Harry Bunn' but how many games are they willing to give him? It was wrong apparently, to give Ched evans a few games because he wasn't instantly fantastic so how many does Harry get before he's written off by the same experts? How good did Weiss look btw ? Where is he ?

We need to be careful here. Give him a nice easy start, keep the pressure off & let him sneak in through the League Cup or something.


That is exactly what you would do with the 4th choice striker - I have never seen him and am going on what some reports like Dougs says about him - Id give him a go in those exact type of games to see if we actually need another forward come January.
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:42 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:As I said earlier in the thread, Bunn needs a bit of 1st team experience perhaps as sub in a League Cup game before being promoted to the 4th striker job. He may not be up to it yet. He may never be up to it; or he may be excellent, it's impossible to tell at this stage.

In the Sturridge thread, we had loads of people taking the piss out of Ched Eveans & slagging off the fact that he was given games to try & prove himself. Ched Evans worked for & deserved that chance as reward for a long series of outstanding goalscoring performances but didn't look anything like the same player when played at the top level. Harry Bunn is equally or even more impressive, quicker but not so well built. We need to handle him with care. Nothing is certain.

I completely understand where you're coming from but I think there's a different perspective. Ched Evans did play well at youth level but when you see Sturridge play you can just see he has a touch of quality about him. Yes he may of been a twat and greedy but looking at him play, he had ability, he could fashion a chance out of nothing. That's something which is hard to teach, some players just have a bit of flair about them, eg Robinho, Silva. I firmly believe if the quality is there then it just takes the right management and coaching to turn them into great players. As I said in another thread Nani is a classic example. He was poor for the first few seasons but you could always tell he had ability and he now is a much better player, his decision making has vastly improved.


I'm sorry but Sturridge still isn't the player you're describing now. He's a bit part player who has done next to nothing at PL level so far apart from a brief scoring spell at Bolton & I recon he'll end up with Wellbeck & Co at West Brom or similar (or Bolton). Also, if I put a highlights/goals package together from the 2 at youth team level, Sturridge scored some lovely goals at times but was often a waste of space. Ched Evans would wipe the floor with him at that level. He scored some absolutely amazing goals, as well as tap ins, diving headers, he was unselfish, intelligent, strong, skillful, fearless & could shoot with both feet like a fucking cannon. He scored twice from the fucking halfway line. When he got in the 1st team, he blundered around like a bull in a china shop. Whether it's nerves, growth (putting on too much muscle) big headedness, alcoholism, girls, drugs, I've no fucking idea, but the player we saw bore no resemblence to the earlier version. He deserved his chance as much as Harry Bunn does though, maybe more.

All the people on here being smartarsed after the fact on Ched Evans will say 'oh let's chuck in Harry Bunn' but how many games are they willing to give him? It was wrong apparently, to give Ched evans a few games because he wasn't instantly fantastic so how many does Harry get before he's written off by the same experts? How good did Weiss look btw ? Where is he ?

We need to be careful here. Give him a nice easy start, keep the pressure off & let him sneak in through the League Cup or something.


That is exactly what you would do with the 4th choice striker - I have never seen him and am going on what some reports like Dougs says about him - Id give him a go in those exact type of games to see if we actually need another forward come January.


In reality though, imagine if Tevez had actually got his head down & got fit. When we need a goal with 20 mins to go at Stamford Bridge; Tevez comes on. Now instead, it's going to be Harry Bunn? The rags may be bringing on Michael Owen in that situation. We can all fucking laugh but then he scores. I just can't see Harry being that bloke this season. A 4th choice striker in this situation is usually a top pro, or at least a youngster like Balotelli, who's done a bit, not usually an untried kid who's new to reserve team football.

I meant to add: Harry should be brought through carefully now so he's there for emergencies, but we should still be looking around in Jan imo.
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New Striker today

Postby soccershins » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:26 pm

The #1 Youth player in the U.S. is heading to Man City this weekend - #1 player to join Man City
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby twosips » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:34 pm

What?
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Re: New striker in jan

Postby dazby » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:24 am

Studge was an enigma for us. He did great things in the youth games etc but whenever his opportunity came to play firsts he was injured. It was just a case of bad timing for him.

BRF, with Studge our hands were tied. Apart from paying him stupid money there's no way we could have kept him.

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