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Re: Tevez

Postby Esky » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:29 pm

Mase wrote:I still wouldn't mind him getting on as a sub in the 89th min of a match we are 3-0 up in, just so the fans can give him the send off he deserves ;)


And then sub him in the 90th.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Mase » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:31 pm

Esky wrote:
Mase wrote:I still wouldn't mind him getting on as a sub in the 89th min of a match we are 3-0 up in, just so the fans can give him the send off he deserves ;)


And then sub him in the 90th.


Or just let him warm up, go to bring him on, numbers go up on the board, only for Bob at the last minute, and after all the boos have rung around the stadium, to tell him to sit the fuck back down and carry on as we were.
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Re: Tevez

Postby avoidconfusion » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:53 pm

I fucking love our Chairman:

In a rare move, the club's chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, spoke out to criticise the conduct of Milan, who Tevez has identified as his preferred destination.

“As things stand, AC Milan are not an option for Carlos,” Al-Mubarak told Abu Dhabi's The National newspaper.

“If they want to be a consideration in this transfer window, they would do better to stop congratulating one another and begin to look at how they would meet our terms.

“Carlos remains a player with contractual obligations to Manchester City for the next two-and-a-half seasons.

“Unless we receive an offer we deem appropriate, the terms of his contract will be enforced.

“Inter Milan and Paris Saint-Germain approached discussions with us in good faith. It is always a positive experience to deal with people with a professional approach.”
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Re: Tevez

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:58 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:I fucking love our Chairman:

In a rare move, the club's chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, spoke out to criticise the conduct of Milan, who Tevez has identified as his preferred destination.

“As things stand, AC Milan are not an option for Carlos,” Al-Mubarak told Abu Dhabi's The National newspaper.

[highlight]“If they want to be a consideration in this transfer window, they would do better to stop congratulating one another and begin to look at how they would meet our terms.[/highlight]
“Carlos remains a player with contractual obligations to Manchester City for the next two-and-a-half seasons.

“Unless we receive an offer we deem appropriate, the terms of his contract will be enforced.

“Inter Milan and Paris Saint-Germain approached discussions with us in good faith. It is always a positive experience to deal with people with a professional approach.”


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Re: Tevez

Postby Crossie » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:10 pm

We don't need to do anything other than not pay him until he returns. If he does, he can train with Bridge, and be kept well away from the first team.

If we start trying to put him on the pitch for 2 minutes, to be booed, we start to look as bad as him.

We are standing strong, it's all we need to do and its the right thing to do. I'm well chuffed with the chairman and owner for this stance. Well done.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Beeks » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:14 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If AC Milan don't cough up the transfer fee, I can see us going after Tevez for it sooner or later. This could be the end of his career if he's not careful.



Could be he just doesn't give a shit Ruxpin
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Re: Tevez

Postby ronk » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:33 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:I fucking love our Chairman:

In a rare move, the club's chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, spoke out to criticise the conduct of Milan, who Tevez has identified as his preferred destination.

“As things stand, AC Milan are not an option for Carlos,” Al-Mubarak told Abu Dhabi's The National newspaper.

“If they want to be a consideration in this transfer window, they would do better to stop congratulating one another and begin to look at how they would meet our terms.

“Carlos remains a player with contractual obligations to Manchester City for the next two-and-a-half seasons.

“Unless we receive an offer we deem appropriate, the terms of his contract will be enforced.

“Inter Milan and Paris Saint-Germain approached discussions with us in good faith. It is always a positive experience to deal with people with a professional approach.”


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Re: Tevez

Postby mcfc1632 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 am

BobKowalski wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:I
BobK - you mention a CITY statement - "The club can confirm that Carlos Tevez was found guilty by a disciplinary hearing on 21 December of gross misconduct for serious breaches of contract and was fined six weeks' wages. Carlos elected to appeal the finding, which was dismissed by an appeal panel made up of club directors. He has until 30 January to make a final appeal to the Premier League."



I pulled it from the end of the Guardian article. I assume City did a briefing to the press to coordinate with Khaldoon comments

Guardian Article



Ahh - well any way after tonight I am not going to think anything that means that I might get more depressed - but that does mean that the statement about us stopping paying is widely reported (including BBC today) but it is lifted from statements in papers by reporters - and not specific quotes from Khaldoon/MCFC............

I am confident that this bit you mention about the internal disciplinary etc is right - but what I want to see is a club statement saying we have stopped paying - not just journolistic interpretation

But anyway I want to believe it is all true.

Interestingly Kiatwat is on Talkshite at 1200 tomorrow and all should become as clear as snake venom then. I hope he is just trying to do damage limitation,
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Re: Tevez

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:52 am

Socrates wrote:
Disagree, the fine is for one specific instance of gross misconduct. Since the day that occurred he has not been in to work so we are not paying him, same as any company. We could end his contract if we wished but are perfectly entitled to decline to do so. He has no redress for the wages as there he is not meeting his side of the contract.


He's effectively ended his contract by refusing to meet his side. In a normal world a company would stop paying and end their bit of the contract too. However, most employees aren't worth millions. After the previous fine and PFA debacle, I suspect we're water tight legally. He's clearly not received any money, but I doubt we've refused to pay him. There's a loophole being exploited somewhere
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Re: Tevez

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:51 am

Encouraging comments in the Mail today that Carlito is getting increasingly worried and anxious about the situation , so hopefully we've got him in a corner
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Re: Tevez

Postby feedthegreek » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:36 pm

acc to kia on talkshite hes staying here till summer off another forum, kia is on talkshite now.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Chinners » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:38 pm

Never were a radio station and football [strike]agent[/strike] advisor so deserving of each others company ...
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Re: Tevez

Postby Mike J » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:53 pm

Chinners wrote:Never were a radio station and football [strike]agent[/strike] advisor so deserving of each others company ...

horrible, shit stirring radio station. keys and gray are still as smarmy as ever. possibly even worse.
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Re: Tevez

Postby feedthegreek » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:56 pm

kia j as said if bobby hadnt said he wont play again , it could have been sorted, so keys said why didnt he say sorry?
and really milan are trying to nick him? fair play. he said psg are in talks with alex hes the last place for a foreign player for them.
inter were never really in the race to sign him. he also said on his exile in argentina he didnt want to hang round and just pick up his wages for not playing, so it looks like were stuck with him, he also said city have not put any barriers in the way of tevez leaving or finding a new club.on asked if he could be loaned out over here kia said probably not. west ham mentioned loan wise not possible to move there. gray said what if city kept him till his contract runs out kia why would they gray cos they can.kia why would they want to lose money for nothing.qpr get a mention but that wont happen also, it looks like he will be back to have a chat with doug come wednesday.
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Re: Tevez

Postby CityGer » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:04 pm

It's just sound bites and bullshit aimed at getting the club to bend and accept Milan's offer.

Go and lie in your own piss, Kia.
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Re: Tevez

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:11 pm

Dont pay him and keep him for the next two years.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Tokyo Blue » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:28 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:Dont pay him and keep him for the next two years.

Excellent. We'll see who wants him when he hasn't kicked a ball in three years.
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Re: Tevez

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:20 pm

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Re: Tevez

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:06 pm

danny boy on the interview

Carlos Tevez to end Manchester City strike after losing hope of move

• Tevez believes City have priced him out of the market
• Agent Joorabchian heavily critical of Mancini in interview


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Friday 27 January 2012 15.44 GMT


Carlos Tevez is set to end his strike at Manchester City after reluctantly accepting the Premier League leaders may have priced him out of the transfer market. Tevez is pessimistic about the chances of a move to Milan happening before Tuesday's transfer deadline and intends to report back for duty at City despite still nursing a huge grievance against Roberto Mancini.

That much became clear in an extraordinary interview with his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, in which he admitted for the first time that Tevez had not wanted to go back to Argentina to be closer to his family, as they have always stated, but left Manchester because of his "feuds with the manager."

Joorabchian, speaking to Talksport, went on to accuse Mancini of mismanaging the club, of being to blame for Tevez's problems and of creating an "unsustainable" situation that had forced the player to quit. It was a sustained attack that merely reinforces the view that, even if Tevez does return, it would be premature to believe he will ever wear the club's colours again.

Mancini has already described it as "impossible" and made it clear that the only way Tevez will be allowed to return to first-team training is if he apologises. Joorabchian, however, says that will not happen. "What is he apologising for? It's almost like a false 'I'm sorry'. He doesn't believe, deep down, that he did anything wrong."

Instead, Joorabchian believes City are contractually bound to re-integrate a player who has already lost £9.3m in wages, bonuses and fines because of the serial offending that led to him being marginalised and then flying to Argentina on 7 November, culminating in him being found guilty of gross misconduct at an internal disciplinary hearing.

"At the moment Mancini has said it is impossible but he has to understand Carlos has a contract at City for the next two and a half years," Joorabchian said. "Carlos has been on walkabout but he has come to terms with the fact he has to come back and live with Mancini."

Tevez had been pinning his hopes on Milan meeting City's asking price of £25m but the Serie A club have been willing to go no higher than £21m so far. Joorabchian said Internazionale "had never been in the race" but added that a deal with Paris St Germain might be resurrected at the end of the season. "We've been in negotiations with three big clubs but I don't think anybody has reached the numbers that City are looking for, so at the moment it looks like Carlos will remain at City until at least the summer."

He then turned his sights on Mancini and, maintaining that Tevez has been badly treated, blamed the manager for not doing more to improve the relationship. "The relationship with Mancini, ever since Mancini came into the club, has not been good. You think about last Christmas, when Carlos wanted to leave and it was all about feuds with the manager and that just carried on and on.

"There was a point when Carlos said: 'You know what, I can't get on here.' And he's not the only one.[Craig] Bellamy had to leave Manchester City in an awkward way, [Emmanuel] Adebayor had to leave in an awkward way, Shay Given had to leave in a semi-awkward way. Wayne Bridge has been isolated and is not even training with the first team.

"He [Mancini] has done a good job as a coach but I don't think there are many coaches in the world who would be given the opportunity to say: 'I'll throw away Adebayor and someone will buy me Edin Dzeko, I'll throw away Carlos Tevez and someone will buy me Sergio Agüero, I'll throw away Craig Bellamy and someone will buy me Mario] Balotelli.' He has been very fortunate because at both Inter and City he has managed the biggest spenders in the world."

Joorabchian was asked about the night Tevez refused to leave the bench when Mancini wanted him to come on as a substitute in the Champions League tie against Bayern Munich. "There are always two sides to the story and, if cooler heads and maturity prevail, these things don't get out of hand. I think it's the responsibility of the older man, the manager, to control the players. The hierarchy at City have been excellent. If it was the hierarchy, the people running the club, they would have handled it in a different way and things wouldn't have exploded.

"The explosion of that day - the manager's comments (Mancini had described Tevez as "finished") - was so bad it created an unsustainable (position). Carlos served a two-week suspension, then he was training on his own and then training with the reserves and at some point you have to say: 'He's served his suspension, now integrate him back'. But there was never any door to that, which is probably why he left. He could not see any daylight and Mancini has made it very clear he doesn't want him in the first team. So what does he [Tevez] do? Does he stay in the reserves, collect his money and say 'Stuff you'? It has never been about money for him."
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Re: Tevez

Postby PeterParker » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:10 pm

This cunt deserves much more. I would love to bring him back, use him and fine him if he doesn't score, but a huge fine, not a thew pounds. Every game fine him and when he/his agent ask why, we say poor performance.
Do that a thew times and you will see Herman playing like hell.
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