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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Mase » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:39 am

ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.


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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:30 am

ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.


Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:50 am

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ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.


Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.



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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby PeterParker » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:51 am

Does anyone remember when we had our last away penalty in Premier League?
We had our last away pen on 30 October 2010, on Molineux against Wolves, when Adeba scored, but then we lost with 2-1. Looking at some statistics, since then, we had 14 penalties that weren't given.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Goataldo » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:57 am

Rag_hater wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.

Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Your blinkered naievety and refusal to leave fluffy bunny land is nothing short of cowardice. Is there a lot of money generated by football? Are human beings corruptible? Is there a chance these two factors might meet? Agendas night not always be against, but to suggest that nothing is ever dodge, is pathetically foolish. Please stop. It's embarrassing.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:00 pm

PeterParker wrote:Does anyone remember when we had our last away penalty in Premier League?
We had our last away pen on 30 October 2010, on Molineux against Wolves, when Adeba scored, but then we lost with 2-1. Looking at some statistics, since then, we had 14 penalties that weren't given.


How can we have had 14 penalties that weren't given? Does that mean claims that weren't given? If so, do you also know how many penalties should have been given against us, home or away, that weren't? I can think that the rags should definitely have had one in the cup game. Can't remember many more, mainly cos I just try and let it go.

Put the ball in the back of the net, like we were doing at the start of the season, and it doesn't matter what refs apparently do, assuming they don't start chalking off 3 goals a game.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:07 pm

Goataldo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.

Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Your blinkered naievety and refusal to leave fluffy bunny land is nothing short of cowardice. Is there a lot of money generated by football? Are human beings corruptible? Is there a chance these two factors might meet? Agendas night not always be against, but to suggest that nothing is ever dodge, is pathetically foolish. Please stop. It's embarrassing.


Whats bollox is everything is fine when we win and when we lose it's the ref's fault.Theres threads how this player should be sold this one has not played well this month blah fuckin blah but at the end of the day it's fuckall to do with them playing shit the refs fuckin cheated us.Rubbish
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Original Dub » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:09 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Its absolutely hilarious that you haven't noticed the major decisions swaying towards the opposition over the last two months.

Its also a bit strange that you patronise your fellow blues in every post.

Tut tut
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:13 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Its absolutely hilarious that you haven't noticed the major decisions swaying towards the opposition over the last two months.

Its also a bit strange that you patronise your fellow blues in every post.

Tut tut


They deserve it
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby HeyMark » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:20 pm

We've had more home penalties than any other team in the league this season! They're out to get us!!
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Mase » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:26 pm

HeyMark wrote:We've had more home penalties than any other team in the league this season! They're out to get us!!


We've also scored more goals at home (and away) than any other team in the league. Surely that means we are getting ourselves in to more situations where we're likely to have a goal scoring chance. The fact that we've had more penalties at home doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:32 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Does anyone remember when we had our last away penalty in Premier League?
We had our last away pen on 30 October 2010, on Molineux against Wolves, when Adeba scored, but then we lost with 2-1. Looking at some statistics, since then, we had 14 penalties that weren't given.


How can we have had 14 penalties that weren't given? Does that mean claims that weren't given? If so, do you also know how many penalties should have been given against us, home or away, that weren't? I can think that the rags should definitely have had one in the cup game. Can't remember many more, mainly cos I just try and let it go.

Put the ball in the back of the net, like we were doing at the start of the season, and it doesn't matter what refs apparently do, assuming they don't start chalking off 3 goals a game.

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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Original Dub » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:38 pm

HeyMark wrote:We've had more home penalties than any other team in the league this season! They're out to get us!!


So you believe there is bias in favour of us? Which ones weren't deserved?
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby PeterParker » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:41 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Does anyone remember when we had our last away penalty in Premier League?
We had our last away pen on 30 October 2010, on Molineux against Wolves, when Adeba scored, but then we lost with 2-1. Looking at some statistics, since then, we had 14 penalties that weren't given.


How can we have had 14 penalties that weren't given? Does that mean claims that weren't given? If so, do you also know how many penalties should have been given against us, home or away, that weren't? I can think that the rags should definitely have had one in the cup game. Can't remember many more, mainly cos I just try and let it go.


29 August 2010 - Sunderland 1–0 Manchester City - City claim a pen in the first half after Yaya was taken down in their area after a corner.
19 September 2010 - Wigan Athletic 0–2 Manchester City - Handball made by Caldwell in his own box.
3 October 2010 - Manchester City 2–1 Newcastle United - Pen after a slide at Tevez. (We received a pen that wasen't the right call in that game).
30 October 2010 - Wolverhampton Wanderers 2–1 Manchester City - Another pen after a foult at Balo, right after the first pen when Ade scored.
4 December 2010 - Manchester City 1–0 Bolton Wanderers - Handball in their own area, 50/50 pen.
20 December 2010 - Manchester City 1–2 Everton - Last man foult made by Timmy Tourette at Balo, the ref instead of giving a pen, let the game continue.
2 February 2011 - Birmingham City 2–2 Manchester City - Penlty for us after Tevez was brought down, then at the same situation, pen for B''gham after a clear dive from Phillips in front of Paddy.
27 February 2011 - Manchester City 1–1 Fulham - Pen after Zamora brough Lesco down in their box at a corner. (Since yesterday, Fulham didn't receive againt them a pen for 2 years).
11 April 2011 - Liverpool 3–0 Manchester City - Pen for us at 0-3.
17 May 2011 - Manchester City 3–0 Stoke City - A pen at 3-0, not important though
+ the 4 penalties from this year.

Rags had a pen with us in the FA cup game and so did we, the handball at England's number one defender.

The claims againts us this season where two, with Arsenal and with Newcastle at home. In most of the times, the controversy story is againts us, we are claiming penalties, red cards and so on and the fact that we haven't been given a penalty away since octomber 2010, altough we were right, might be a problem.
We had two dubious pen for us: Yesterday and with Newcastle two autumns ago.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Goataldo » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:22 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Its absolutely hilarious that you haven't noticed the major decisions swaying towards the opposition over the last two months.

Its also a bit strange that you patronise your fellow blues in every post.

Tut tut


They deserve it


You are the other end of an extreme and no less stupid for it.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby HeyMark » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:44 pm

Original Dub wrote:
HeyMark wrote:We've had more home penalties than any other team in the league this season! They're out to get us!!


So you believe there is bias in favour of us? Which ones weren't deserved?


Nah mate its more of i'm bored and trying to throw a spanner in the works on this dull Sunday afternoon! Please continue
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Original Dub » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:06 pm

Fair enough :)
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:20 pm

Goataldo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.

Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Your blinkered naievety and refusal to leave fluffy bunny land is nothing short of cowardice. Is there a lot of money generated by football? Are human beings corruptible? Is there a chance these two factors might meet? Agendas night not always be against, but to suggest that nothing is ever dodge, is pathetically foolish. Please stop. It's embarrassing.


What is embarrassing is the cry baby attitude of grown men when things don't go their way and blaming the wrong people.That's what should stop.
Your refusal to leave planet paraoia is the element of your argument that stinks of cowardice.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Goataldo » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:59 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Goataldo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.

Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Your blinkered naievety and refusal to leave fluffy bunny land is nothing short of cowardice. Is there a lot of money generated by football? Are human beings corruptible? Is there a chance these two factors might meet? Agendas night not always be against, but to suggest that nothing is ever dodge, is pathetically foolish. Please stop. It's embarrassing.


What is embarrassing is the cry baby attitude of grown men when things don't go their way and blaming the wrong people.That's what should stop.
Your refusal to leave planet paraoia is the element of your argument that stinks of cowardice.


I'm maybe just more open/broad minded than you. Paranoid? Haha. It would be a bit daft to sweepingly generalise that everything is fixed, just as it would be to stick your head....let's say 'in the sand' rather than where I suspect yours is firmly rammed, and assume that everything is nice and fair, above board, and legitimate.
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Re: Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:37 pm

Goataldo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Goataldo wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.

Thanks for clearing that up.I had thought that refs always had, and always will, continue to make mistakes.Had not realised that it was deliberate,and only against us.I had thought that most fans could come up with examples of refs being inept but as it appears everybody else is happy I suppose your paranoia has good basis.


Your blinkered naievety and refusal to leave fluffy bunny land is nothing short of cowardice. Is there a lot of money generated by football? Are human beings corruptible? Is there a chance these two factors might meet? Agendas night not always be against, but to suggest that nothing is ever dodge, is pathetically foolish. Please stop. It's embarrassing.


What is embarrassing is the cry baby attitude of grown men when things don't go their way and blaming the wrong people.That's what should stop.
Your refusal to leave planet paraoia is the element of your argument that stinks of cowardice.


I'm maybe just more open/broad minded than you. Paranoid? Haha. It would be a bit daft to sweepingly generalise that everything is fixed, just as it would be to stick your head....let's say 'in the sand' rather than where I suspect yours is firmly rammed, and assume that everything is nice and fair, above board, and legitimate.


I have said before that the corruption in football that I have read about leaves me with very little doubt that there are elements of the game that leave you feeling a bit hopeless.However I think that any corruption in the game is evenly divided amongst all clubs.We suffer as much as the others.I do not think that the bent parts of the game are directed towards us they are just a result of circumstances.People who benefit from doing corrupt things I think do it to benefit themselves and screwing us is not on their agenda.
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