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Re: Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:21 am

Rag_hater wrote:
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Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
I think that this year, so far, it does.

If we play shite from now on & the rags play well then fair enough but I strongly believe that we have played better than them over the course of the season so far & that they have had the breaks whilst we haven't.

The simple fact that they played Steve Bruce's Sunderland straight after the 1-6 is a defining moment imo. I watched the whole of that game & it's amongst the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd side. Sunderland were dogshite but still Utd were caking their pants & the crowd was whinging like fuck. Up steps Wes Brown with an OG the Bendtner misses a few sitters.

I don't believe for one minute that it was a brown envelope job, but ad it been one, they could not have done it better. Any decent side would have finished Utd's season that day.

They have been very lucky on many crucial occasions. We have been mainly unlucky at similar key moments.

If I was a City fan winning the league with Utd's squad & performances, I would feel elated, like I'd got away with murder, but be very very worried that a long stretch awaited me in the future.


My perception of what happened after the 1-6 is that as you say, they were at sixes and sevens. They did however, by hook or by crook manage to eek out 5 or 6 1.0 victories on the spin, it wasnt pretty at all but they went back to the simple basics of sorting out their makeshift defence and rebuilding their game and confidence.

That run of 1.0 victories, although we derided it at the time, is what will win them the league if things stay as they are.

That run of 1.0 victories in a tough spell, is something we seem incapable of doing, and that is the difference when it boils down to it


None of those victories was against teams who'd spent the past week slaving over a way of stopping them like thay have with City. Had they done so, it would have been a lot of 0-0 draws. They had Rooney playing in midfield for some of those. It was desperate & they got away with it because they were allowed to, not because they played well or like 'Champions'.

They have been fortunate to stay in the race this year, mainly down to the fact that the top teams have been under strength when they played them imo. If Bale had played for Spurs, they would have 3 points less for a start. Arsenal were decimated boith times. Chelsea battered them twice & were just plain unlucky. It adds up to a lot of points.



If the twats get the luck though like they have for a number of years what can we do?


I don't believe that they've always had the same amount of good fortune as this season. They always get the refs but the number of different things which have gone their way, right down to them having a home game after EVERY champions Lg away game, us losing the only players we couldn't afford to lose, in the most crucial period, it just goes on & on. They have had a fluke of a season.

In the future, more teams will take points off them, especially the top teams & we will get better & better. I expect the top half of the Premier League to get tougher in the coming years. It may mean we lose a few but so will they.
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Re: Mancini

Postby avoidconfusion » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:42 am

Tru_Blu wrote:Progress

a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
growth or development; continuous improvement:
advancement in general

Mancini

Wins FA CUP
1st Time CL qualification
2nd place fighting for League glory

What more can i say?


Sorry that does not cut it for me. This is the weakest Premier League season I can remember. Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... all pissed points away. How such an average United side was allowed to to not only catch up with us when we were 7 points ahead but also go 5 points clear (that is a 12 point turnover) is beyond me.

Mancini has not adapted during the season. Teams figured us out and he did nothing to change his approach.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:49 am

avoidconfusion wrote:
Tru_Blu wrote:Progress

a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
growth or development; continuous improvement:
advancement in general

Mancini

Wins FA CUP
1st Time CL qualification
2nd place fighting for League glory

What more can i say?


Sorry that does not cut it for me. This is the weakest Premier League season I can remember. Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... all pissed points away. How such an average United side was allowed to to not only catch up with us when we were 7 points ahead but also go 5 points clear (that is a 12 point turnover) is beyond me.

Mancini has not adapted during the season. Teams figured us out and he did nothing to change his approach.


That's fair enough but have Utd changed their approach ?

Why isn't there a plan to stop them feeding their wide players ?
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Re: Mancini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:59 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
That's fair enough but have Utd changed their approach ?

Why isn't there a plan to stop them feeding their wide players ?


Like we did in the FA cup you mean?

No one in their right mind would swap our squad for theirs. Yet they're 5 points clear. You can moan all you want about refs or luck, but it sounds like sour grapes. Over the course of the season so far, they have been better than us at winning games. Not better football than us, but that doesn't mean anything - ask Swansea.
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Re: Mancini

Postby dick dastardley » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:01 pm

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"Strongest" is not only based on pure ability, but physical preparedness for the game. Hence rotating players based on whose muscles are the freshest for the match.

Thank god you're not a PL manager, since you sound an awful lot like "king" kenny. Throwing around these old sayings that divide the world into black and white, while ignoring all the shades of grey in between

At this stage of the season and out of all cups i would suggest to you that the best players will have had at least 6days rest. Therefore my point is a valid one!!!!
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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 pm

The difference between us and them is in the way that others managers prepared the games vs us and then vs them. If half of this teams would had played the same with them, like they did with us, we would had been champions by now.

I don't say they were rolling over, but they had a scared approach. Bilbao showed how are they made of, but the way that no one learned from that is beyond me.
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Re: Mancini

Postby bigblue » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:33 pm

PeterParker wrote:The difference between us and them is in the way that others managers prepared the games vs us and then vs them. If half of this teams would had played the same with them, like they did with us, we would had been champions by now.

I don't say they were rolling over, but they had a scared approach. Bilbao showed how are they made of, but the way that no one learned from that is beyond me.


Alex seems to agree:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... os?cc=5901

"The French first division is a very defensive-minded and difficult league," he said. "It is often tougher than in England, where certain teams feel beaten before the start when they play Manchester United or Chelsea."
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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:40 pm

bigblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:The difference between us and them is in the way that others managers prepared the games vs us and then vs them. If half of this teams would had played the same with them, like they did with us, we would had been champions by now.

I don't say they were rolling over, but they had a scared approach. Bilbao showed how are they made of, but the way that no one learned from that is beyond me.


Alex seems to agree:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... os?cc=5901

"The French first division is a very defensive-minded and difficult league," he said. "It is often tougher than in England, where certain teams feel beaten before the start when they play Manchester United or Chelsea."


For the moment, i thought you were talking about bacon face, but then i realised that he lives in his own world and you were talking about a different Alex.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:38 pm

You arre fucking clueless and i really hope you get the sack.....fucking tit of tits..no subs...need to win..he is as clueless as Mr Clueless Hughes.

FUCK OFF.
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Re: Mancini

Postby phips » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:47 pm

His solution to injuries, behavioral problems, and a string of losses is to buy more new players.
FFS, he's spent 210 million pounds in 2 years. The solution isnt just buying. Not only is that
not an option for FFP but its just a dumb move; its the same as Chelsea's coaching switches.
You cant change things up after things dont work in a short time. Mancini needs to learn how to
coach a team...exiling people like Adebayor isnt the solution.

I genuinely hope we sack him and get someone in who knows how to coach a team and isnt
only focused on buying buying buying when problems arise.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:48 pm

SACK HIM.....DISGUSTING MANAGEMENT.

SHIT IN EUROPE....SHIT WITH TACTICS.....BASICALLY A FUCKING SHIT.
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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:49 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:SACK HIM.....DISGUSTING MANAGEMENT.


Sorry to say, but yes. It's about time.
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Re: Mancini

Postby s1ty m » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:49 pm

Clueless today. Really poor.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:51 pm

s1ty m wrote:Clueless today. Really poor.


Today?? how about clueless for the last fucking 4 months.....and as I say that Ballo off..we all saw it coming but not the stupid Italian.


SACK HIM NOW !!
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Re: Mancini

Postby KinkyKinkladze » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:51 pm

And that right there sums up everything of this season. What a fucking tool.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Craig B » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:53 pm

He has to go.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:56 pm

SACK HIM..SACK THE CLUELESS CUNT TODAY.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:02 pm

And bring in...?

We have been here before. If you can't get Mourinho, you can't get the bloke from Barcelona (forgot his name), you can't get Hiddink... who the fuck do you get?

"Anybody would be better than Mancini!", I can hear you say. Well, Gary Megson is available.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Superbia » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:02 pm

hes a cunt what the fuck is he doing making subs with 10 mins to go that are ridiculous what a bellend
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Re: Mancini

Postby Kladze » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:03 pm

Hate to say it but that was a quite abject performance and the manager was no better than the players. He may well be on his way after that.
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