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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:46 am

Is Mario Balotelli the black Robin Friday? only time will tell...but sadly, we cant let that time pass while he plays for us. Tevez, although badly advised, seemingly ignorant, is, on that pitch, 100% committed. Balotelli? you just dont know. Title winning teams tend to jettison loose cannons. mancini thought he could get the best out of him...surely hes seen enough to know he made an error because balotelli just isnt learning at all.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Moses » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:56 am

It should be obvious to all but the Mancini fanatics that he is incapable of taking us to the next level.
To put all your faith in a special needs case is incompetent.
There have been so many blunders dropping a striker after scoring 4 goals, not resting Silva months ago, not preparing properly for 2 matches (totally unprofessional) etc
So many options out there to give a whirl to than spending next season with Mancini, Pardew?
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:08 am

Moses you spoiled a good post mentioning Pardew. Pardew can easily be sixth from bottom rather than sixth from top with that side...it happened at west ham. he thinks very highly of himself. lucky to be in a big job again imo.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Gentlesnipes » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:25 am

Hopefully Mourinho loses both the Champions league and La Liga to Barcelona. Maybe he may get the sack and then we pounce on him. Because from recent showings, I don't think Mancini can take us to the next level.

Balotelli, Savic, Tevez, Bridge, Johnson, (Mancini?) DEFINITELY ALL OUT

Boyata, Adebayor, new WINGERS, Covers for yaya and kompany ALL IN.

AND WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THE YOUTH PLAYERS IN FOR THE REMINDER OF THE MATCHES. They need the experience
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:40 am

Gentlesnipes wrote:Hopefully Mourinho loses both the Champions league and La Liga to Barcelona. Maybe he may get the sack and then we pounce on him. Because from recent showings, I don't think Mancini can take us to the next level.

Balotelli, Savic, Tevez, Bridge, Johnson, (Mancini?) DEFINITELY ALL OUT

Boyata, Adebayor, new WINGERS, Covers for yaya and kompany ALL IN.

AND WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THE YOUTH PLAYERS IN FOR THE REMINDER OF THE MATCHES. They need the experience


I think if you want maureen, you got to hope he wins the lot, because i cant see him leaving spain without trophies. For him that would be a failure, and his ego is too big to allow it.

But i genuinely believe that any new manager has a golden opportunity to revamp this squad without actually spending very much new money at all.

We all believe that city will bring in 50/60m for balo and tevez, and little bits for some of the other misfits, or at least free up the wage bill from the likes of rsc, bridge etc.

But a new manager coming in to find tevez, adebayor and dzeko out of favour would fucking cream themselves. And someone like maureen would find a way to make that work. He strongly believes in the 3 attacking players made up of two wider forwards with a bit of pace, which i think sergio and tevez could do in their sleep, with a generally non contributing big guys in the middle whose sole job jt is to be a bit of a nuisance and tap the ball home.

Yaya, Silva and Barry behind them, and tevez / sergio drop back into an almost 451 shape when Defending, giving us outlets for lightening counter attacks.

I dont think we need much in the way of new players, just play the ones we have properly
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Moses » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:45 am

Gentlesnipes wrote:
Balotelli, Savic, Tevez, Bridge, Johnson, (Mancini?) DEFINITELY ALL OUT


do you actually realise how hard it is to get rid of Bridge?
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Grob » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:06 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
gillie wrote:He has lost us the title plain and simple because he reverted to his roots.Plus he carried on gratiating his favourite Balotelli who imo has caused more unrest than the Tevez saga ever did he has to go.



Interesting that I heard someone (in the press or a pundit)say that Tevez coming back has caused us more problems and unrest within the team than Mario.I would disagree with that.The team genuinely seem to be happy with Tevez coming back but there don't seem to the same positve comments re Mario or at least none that I can remember that were genuine.


The team were on the slide long before Tevez came back, infact the chat when it became abundantly clear we weren't selling Tevez in January, the talk was of whether he could come back and save our season.

So people putting our slump down to Tevez's return, when he's barely been used incidently, either have an agenda against the man and for Mancini, or haven't a clue.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Grob » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:06 am

Blue2 wrote:Patience needed, big mistake if we get rid, imo.


Why?
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby david yearsley » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:20 am

Bianchi on Ice wrote:Is Mario Balotelli the black Robin Friday? only time will tell...but sadly, we cant let that time pass while he plays for us. Tevez, although badly advised, seemingly ignorant, is, on that pitch, 100% committed. Balotelli? you just dont know. Title winning teams tend to jettison loose cannons. mancini thought he could get the best out of him...surely hes seen enough to know he made an error because balotelli just isnt learning at all.

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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Chinners » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:21 am

It's hard to take some of the 'new' posts on here seriously ... and get a grip Gillie
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Dunnylad » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:29 am

Knee jerk reactions will get us nowhere & I don't buy the idea that Mourinho guarantees instant success - if he blows La Liga & doesn't win the Chumps League with an expensively assembled squad - no one can tell me that he won't do it at city.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Grob » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:34 am

Dunnylad wrote:Knee jerk reactions will get us nowhere & I don't buy the idea that Mourinho guarantees instant success - if he blows La Liga & doesn't win the Chumps League with an expensively assembled squad - no one can tell me that he won't do it at city.


Question, do you think we would have a better chance of winning the premier league with:-

This squad, plus Mourinho, minus balotelli and mancini

Or

In its current state
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Dunnylad » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:36 am

Grob wrote:
Question, do you think we would have a better chance of winning the premier league with:-

This squad, plus Mourinho, minus balotelli and mancini

Or

In its current state


This squad is not good enough to win the league so it's current state is not an option.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Chinners » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:40 am

I quite like Mourinho but I never want to see him as our manager. He'll would definately have got more out of this group of players this season which ultimately would mean us looking for another manager (more upheaval, players in/out) for next season anyway. He is the ultimate whore manager but I don't think he'll use us to get to the job he craves when the Bacon finally goes
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Gentlesnipes » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:42 am

Dunnylad wrote:
This squad is not good enough to win the league so it's current state is not an option.


United won it with an inferior squad, what you on about ? Mancini needs to implement major changes or he is out of the door.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Dunnylad » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:53 am

Gentlesnipes wrote:
United won it with an inferior squad, what you on about ? Mancini needs to implement major changes or he is out of the door.


So inferior that they are top of the league? Miles ahead of the rest of the division. There's people in here waxing lyrical about Valencia & presumably there'll be those who wished we had Shrek or Nani

Major changes are not needed, the deadwood needs to go & that's not easy, but careful considered additions are required & personally I think Mancini should be there to do it, but if the board change the manager then I'll be fully behind the new incumbent - I'm bitterly disappointed about how the season has ended, but it won't stop me going to Norwich & cheering the boys on
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby bobby brows » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:54 am

Gentlesnipes wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:
This squad is not good enough to win the league so it's current state is not an option.


United won it with an inferior squad, what you on about ? Mancini needs to implement major changes or he is out of the door.


Lee Mason, Martin Atkinson, Howard Webb inferior? :-)

in all seriousness player for player we've prob got the strongest squad in the league, there have been a few that have consistently not performed all season. we've been unlucky with injuries in the second half of the season but I think the fact that we've not really well consistently since Christmas is the fault of the manager. Our results haven't always reflected this as we've made a lot of gung ho changes at home to score late goals.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:00 am

bobby brows wrote:
Gentlesnipes wrote:
Dunnylad wrote:
This squad is not good enough to win the league so it's current state is not an option.


United won it with an inferior squad, what you on about ? Mancini needs to implement major changes or he is out of the door.


Lee Mason, Martin Atkinson, Howard Webb inferior? :-)

in all seriousness player for player we've prob got the strongest squad in the league, there have been a few that have consistently not performed all season. we've been unlucky with injuries in the second half of the season but I think the fact that we've not really well consistently since Christmas is the fault of the manager. Our results haven't always reflected this as we've made a lot of gung ho changes at home to score late goals.



First I wouldnt say we have the strongest squad in the league.Certainly Mancini doesnt think so as he has said that when we have injuries to key players he hasnt had the quality to cover the gaps!

Second I would say overall we have been lucky with injuries.Yes one or two missing in the last 2 months for a few games but nothing really major and if we have the best squad in the league as you think ,the missing players wouldnt have been noticed.
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Wooders » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:04 am

I can't see him staying,
his cock up with tevez (not entirely his fault), but the way the team welcomed him back says a lot about what they think of mancini
his tactic changes that are always too little too late
his rotation that only rotates in form players and clearly knackered players like silva get left in the squad
he spent too much money on nasri, kolorov and dzeko
our best players (silva and yaya aside) are either hughes signings or pre-takeover


that said however there are only a handful of managers that I think it would be worth sacking him for:-
one of them is going to be the england manager, one of them won't leave barca, one of them wants to manage UTD and the other is quite happy in russia thankyou very much
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Re: Mancini has to go?

Postby Dunnylad » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 am

Without money to spend in January, might Mancini be going back to the Board & saying "I told you so"? I don't think it was any secret he wanted to strengthen the team, yet wasn't given the resources to do so & without our higher echelons being able to offload Tevez & Bridge on permanent deals has the lack of strengthening in January come back to haunt us?
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