Biggest achievement at City

[john@staustell]

We have played industrial snakes and ladders. Forgetting all the earlier snakes for a minute - Going broke under Wardle(snake), sold SWP (ladder). JW also stumps up his own cash (ladder)keeps us going, works like hell to get us a rich owner - Uncle Frank (ladder), who buys up all the tiny shareholders (big ladder), some of them awkward and Shindler-bitter (little snakes). Frank has his assets seized (very big snake) but in his circle of rich people is the AD Royal family (ladder) and over a cup of tea at the Bejing Olympics we can now be secretly sold and rescued overnight because of Frank's earlier purchase of all the little shareholders (ladder to roof).

[ronk]

Things went badly with Frank when he had his unexpected money problems, but he did right by us.

It was basically his vision and his plan that the sheik bought into (& expanded), and it was a unique vision.

He also sold his interest rather than doing any damage to us. Other owners might have cashed out to a dodgy leverager and they might have got more money. We owe him a lot.

[ronk]

Oh and the league was the big achievement. Money helped, but it didn't get us all the way. We were pushed all the way and it took great spirit, we also did it in our own special way. This shows that we kept our soul.

I don't think people fully appreciate the long term implications of getting there a little earlier. We're now in a position to really kick on.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We have played industrial snakes and ladders. Forgetting all the earlier snakes for a minute - Going broke under Wardle(snake), sold SWP (ladder). JW also stumps up his own cash (ladder)keeps us going, works like hell to get us a rich owner - Uncle Frank (ladder), who buys up all the tiny shareholders (big ladder), some of them awkward and Shindler-bitter (little snakes). Frank has his assets seized (very big snake) but in his circle of rich people is the AD Royal family (ladder) and over a cup of tea at the Bejing Olympics we can now be secretly sold and rescued overnight because of Frank's earlier purchase of all the little shareholders (ladder to roof).

That's pretty much it. I feel that had the back to back promotions never happened we would've never been climbing the ladder. Once Sheik took over we were always going to win titles no matter what. These are not the kind of people who give up before reaching their goals.

[Ted Hughes]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

[Rag_hater]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

No. Position Player
1 GK Nicky Weaver
2 DF Lee Crooks
3 DF Richard Edghill
4 DF Gerard Wiekens
5 DF Andy Morrison
6 MF Kevin Horlock
7 DF Spencer Prior
8 MF Ian Bishop
9 FW Paul Dickov
10 FW Shaun Goater
11 MF Terry Cooke
12 FW Danny Allsopp
13 GK Tommy Wright
14 FW Gareth Taylor
15 FW Craig Russell
16 MF Jamie Pollock
17 MF Jim Whitley
18 MF Jeff Whitley
No. Position Player
19 MF Danny Tiatto
20 MF Gary Mason
23 DF Nick Fenton
24 FW Lee Peacock
25 DF Richard Jobson
26 GK Richard McKinney
27 DF Shaun Holmes
28 MF Tony Grant
29 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
30 GK Steven Hodgson
31 MF David Laycock
32 MF Leon Mike
33 FW Chris Killen
34 DF Mark Kennedy
35 FW Lee Mills (on loan from Bradford City)
36 DF Danny Granville
37 FW Robert Taylor


Them players would have got us back to the prem no danger.We were truthfully to good to be out of it.We had the amazing Gio and a few others it was only bad luck that got us regulated

[Ted Hughes]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

No. Position Player
1 GK Nicky Weaver
2 DF Lee Crooks
3 DF Richard Edghill
4 DF Gerard Wiekens
5 DF Andy Morrison
6 MF Kevin Horlock
7 DF Spencer Prior
8 MF Ian Bishop
9 FW Paul Dickov
10 FW Shaun Goater
11 MF Terry Cooke
12 FW Danny Allsopp
13 GK Tommy Wright
14 FW Gareth Taylor
15 FW Craig Russell
16 MF Jamie Pollock
17 MF Jim Whitley
18 MF Jeff Whitley
No. Position Player
19 MF Danny Tiatto
20 MF Gary Mason
23 DF Nick Fenton
24 FW Lee Peacock
25 DF Richard Jobson
26 GK Richard McKinney
27 DF Shaun Holmes
28 MF Tony Grant
29 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
30 GK Steven Hodgson
31 MF David Laycock
32 MF Leon Mike
33 FW Chris Killen
34 DF Mark Kennedy
35 FW Lee Mills (on loan from Bradford City)
36 DF Danny Granville
37 FW Robert Taylor


Them players would have got us back to the prem no danger.We were truthfully to good to be out of it.We had the amazing Gio and a few others it was only bad luck that got us regulated

Be honest, you don't remember any of this do you ? You'd lost interest & just saw the occasional goals highlights. It's true isn't it ?

[Rag_hater]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

No. Position Player
1 GK Nicky Weaver
2 DF Lee Crooks
3 DF Richard Edghill
4 DF Gerard Wiekens
5 DF Andy Morrison
6 MF Kevin Horlock
7 DF Spencer Prior
8 MF Ian Bishop
9 FW Paul Dickov
10 FW Shaun Goater
11 MF Terry Cooke
12 FW Danny Allsopp
13 GK Tommy Wright
14 FW Gareth Taylor
15 FW Craig Russell
16 MF Jamie Pollock
17 MF Jim Whitley
18 MF Jeff Whitley
No. Position Player
19 MF Danny Tiatto
20 MF Gary Mason
23 DF Nick Fenton
24 FW Lee Peacock
25 DF Richard Jobson
26 GK Richard McKinney
27 DF Shaun Holmes
28 MF Tony Grant
29 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
30 GK Steven Hodgson
31 MF David Laycock
32 MF Leon Mike
33 FW Chris Killen
34 DF Mark Kennedy
35 FW Lee Mills (on loan from Bradford City)
36 DF Danny Granville
37 FW Robert Taylor


Them players would have got us back to the prem no danger.We were truthfully to good to be out of it.We had the amazing Gio and a few others it was only bad luck that got us regulated

Be honest, you don't remember any of this do you ? You'd lost interest & just saw the occasional goals highlights. It's true isn't it ?

I'm nowhere near as hardcore as some of you but I don't think I have made any secret of that.I do knoe that I have supported us all my life and thats not going to change and as for the issue then I think we did not achieve something we were not easily capable of but now winning the prem and being CHAMPIONS is an achievement.And I didn't remember it till I reading about it

[Ted Hughes]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

No. Position Player
1 GK Nicky Weaver
2 DF Lee Crooks
3 DF Richard Edghill
4 DF Gerard Wiekens
5 DF Andy Morrison
6 MF Kevin Horlock
7 DF Spencer Prior
8 MF Ian Bishop
9 FW Paul Dickov
10 FW Shaun Goater
11 MF Terry Cooke
12 FW Danny Allsopp
13 GK Tommy Wright
14 FW Gareth Taylor
15 FW Craig Russell
16 MF Jamie Pollock
17 MF Jim Whitley
18 MF Jeff Whitley
No. Position Player
19 MF Danny Tiatto
20 MF Gary Mason
23 DF Nick Fenton
24 FW Lee Peacock
25 DF Richard Jobson
26 GK Richard McKinney
27 DF Shaun Holmes
28 MF Tony Grant
29 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
30 GK Steven Hodgson
31 MF David Laycock
32 MF Leon Mike
33 FW Chris Killen
34 DF Mark Kennedy
35 FW Lee Mills (on loan from Bradford City)
36 DF Danny Granville
37 FW Robert Taylor


Them players would have got us back to the prem no danger.We were truthfully to good to be out of it.We had the amazing Gio and a few others it was only bad luck that got us regulated

Be honest, you don't remember any of this do you ? You'd lost interest & just saw the occasional goals highlights. It's true isn't it ?

I'm nowhere near as hardcore as some of you but I don't think I have made any secret of that.I do knoe that I have supported us all my life and thats not going to change and as for the issue then I think we did not achieve something we were not easily capable of but now winning the prem and being CHAMPIONS is an achievement.And I didn't remember it till I reading about it

That's a yes then.

Nobody is questioning that you love City but please don't argue with people when you don't know what you are talking about, as all you are then doing is wumming people for no good reason when they are making a valid point.

[Rag_hater]

Just spotted this thread. (Some classic RH in there, trying to use stats to prove that what actually happened never happened).

We may have survived without going out of business if we'd lost the playoff final, but I doubt we would have got back to the Premier League for a long long time, if at all. People mention the loyalty of the fans but they are forgetting the vicious, terrifying, impatience that came with it. A bad start next season & players who became heros would have become 'cunts' who 'don't try' & Joe Royle would have been 'inept' & ultimately sacked. There is no guarantee of a good season following a day like the final. Gillingham thought they were about to become the main supported club in that part of the country & tap into millions of floating fans. They didn't.

Without that chain of events, we certainly would not have got taken over by Frank or the Sheikh; someone else would.

No. Position Player
1 GK Nicky Weaver
2 DF Lee Crooks
3 DF Richard Edghill
4 DF Gerard Wiekens
5 DF Andy Morrison
6 MF Kevin Horlock
7 DF Spencer Prior
8 MF Ian Bishop
9 FW Paul Dickov
10 FW Shaun Goater
11 MF Terry Cooke
12 FW Danny Allsopp
13 GK Tommy Wright
14 FW Gareth Taylor
15 FW Craig Russell
16 MF Jamie Pollock
17 MF Jim Whitley
18 MF Jeff Whitley
No. Position Player
19 MF Danny Tiatto
20 MF Gary Mason
23 DF Nick Fenton
24 FW Lee Peacock
25 DF Richard Jobson
26 GK Richard McKinney
27 DF Shaun Holmes
28 MF Tony Grant
29 MF Shaun Wright-Phillips
30 GK Steven Hodgson
31 MF David Laycock
32 MF Leon Mike
33 FW Chris Killen
34 DF Mark Kennedy
35 FW Lee Mills (on loan from Bradford City)
36 DF Danny Granville
37 FW Robert Taylor


Them players would have got us back to the prem no danger.We were truthfully to good to be out of it.We had the amazing Gio and a few others it was only bad luck that got us regulated

Be honest, you don't remember any of this do you ? You'd lost interest & just saw the occasional goals highlights. It's true isn't it ?

I'm nowhere near as hardcore as some of you but I don't think I have made any secret of that.I do knoe that I have supported us all my life and thats not going to change and as for the issue then I think we did not achieve something we were not easily capable of but now winning the prem and being CHAMPIONS is an achievement.And I didn't remember it till I reading about it

That's a yes then.

Nobody is questioning that you love City but please don't argue with people when you don't know what you are talking about, as all you are then doing is wumming people for no good reason when they are making a valid point.

Clubs in England & Wales that have entered administration

This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Club Entered
administration Exited
administration League(s) Deduction(s)
Charlton Athletic February 1984[30][31] March 1984
[nb 1] Second Division None
Middlesbrough 21 May 1986 July 1986[32]
Liquidated[nb 2] Third Division None
Tranmere Rovers 1987[citation needed] − − None
Newport County 1989[citation needed] − − None
Walsall 1990[citation needed] − − None
Northampton Town 1992[citation needed] − − None
Kettering Town 1992[citation needed] − − None
Aldershot 1992[citation needed] − − None
Maidstone 1992[citation needed] − − None
Hartlepool United 1994[citation needed] − − None
Barnet 1994[citation needed] − − None
Exeter United 1994[citation needed] − − None
Gillingham 1995[citation needed] − − None
Doncaster Rovers 1997[citation needed] − − None
Millwall 21 January 1997 June 1997 Second Division None
Bournemouth 1997[citation needed] − − None
Darlington 1997[citation needed] − − None
Crystal Palace 1998[citation needed] July 2000 Second Division None
Chester City October 1998[33] July 1999[34] Third Division None
Hull City 7 February 2001[35] 12 March 2001[36][nb 3] Third Division None
Queens Park Rangers 2 April 2001[38] 17 November 2002[39] First Division None
Halifax Town 9 April 2002[40] March 2003[41] Third Division
Football Conference None
Bradford City 16 May 2002[42] 1 August 2002[43] First Division None
Barnsley 3 October 2002[44] 25 October 2003[45] Second Division None
Leicester City 21 October 2002[46] 16 November 2004[47] First Division None
Port Vale 16 December 2002[48] 2003 Second Division None
York City 18 December 2002[49] 26 March 2003[50] Third Division None
Derby County 20 October 2003[51] 20 October 2003[51] Championship None[nb 4]
Ipswich Town[nb 5] 10 February 2003[55] 30 May 2003[56] First Division None
Wimbledon 5 June 2003[57] 21 June 2004[58] (As MK Dons) First Division None
Darlington 23 December 2003[59] 26 May 2004[60] Third Division None
Bradford City 27 February 2004[61] 10 December 2004[62] First Division
League One None
Wrexham 3 December 2004[14] 3 August 2006[63] League One
League Two −10 pts
Cambridge United 29 April 2005[64] 22 July 2005[65] League Two −10 pts
Rotherham United 13 May 2006[66] ??? League One −10 pts
Crawley Town 5 June 2006[67] 10 August 2007[68] Conference National −6 pts[nb 6]
Boston United 25 April 2007[70] 20 May 2008[71] League Two −10 pts[nb 7]
Leeds United 4 May 2007[73] 11 July 2007[74] Championship
League One −10 pts
−15 pts[nb 8]
Luton Town 22 November 2007[76] 28 July 2008[77] League One
League Two −10 pts
−20 pts[nb 9]
Bournemouth 8 February 2008[79] 18 July 2008[80] League One
League Two −10 pts
−17 pts[nb 10]
Rotherham United 18 March 2008[81] 2008[1] League Two −10 pts
−17 pts[nb 11]
Halifax Town 26 March 2008[82] 13 June 2008[83] Conference National −10 pts
Darlington 25 February 2009[84] 7 August 2009[85] League Two −10 pts
Southampton 2 April 2009[86][87] 8 July 2009[88] Championship
League One N/A
−10 pts[nb 12]
Stockport County 30 April 2009[89] 18 June 2010[90] League One −10 pts
Chester City 17 May 2009[33] 10 March 2010[nb 13]
Liquidated Conference National −25 pts[nb 14]
Northwich Victoria 15 May 2009[96] 16 May 2010[97][nb 15] Conference National −10 pts[nb 16]
Farsley Celtic 30 June 2009[101] 10 March 2010
Liquidated[102] Conference North −10 pts[103]
Salisbury City 3 September 2009[104] 26 February 2010[105][106] Conference National −10 pts[nb 17]
Weymouth 28 October 2009[108] 27 November 2009[109] Conference South None
Crystal Palace 27 January 2010[110] 20 August 2010[111] Championship −10 pts
Portsmouth 26 February 2010[22] 24 October 2010[112] Premier League −9 pts
Plymouth Argyle 4 March 2011[113] 31 October 2011[114] League One −10 pts
Rushden and Diamonds 7 July 2011[115] 8 July 2011
Liquidated[116] Conference National None
Darlington 3 January 2012[117] Present Conference National −10 pts
Portsmouth 17 February 2012[118] Present Championship −10 pts
Port Vale 9 March 2012[119] Present League Two −10 pts


All them clubs have been in administration.
They are all still in exisitence.
All this bollox about us being close to extinction except for the actions of a few hardcore turning up at York is that bollox.Anybody with half a brain can get round the financial difficulties we were in.
I've listened to every match on GMR so bollox to knowing fuckall thats being going on with my club.Your winding me up so were even

[Ted Hughes]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

[Rag_hater]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

I've made a point about what players we had at the time,I have made a point about how we spent the league in the top places all season,I have made a point about how many clubs go through financial difficulties and come through it.Your the one who won't disscuss the points without any evidence just trying to get digs at me.

[Ted Hughes]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

I've made a point about what players we had at the time,I have made a point about how we spent the league in the top places all season,I have made a point about how many clubs go through financial difficulties and come through it.Your the one who won't disscuss the points without any evidence just trying to get digs at me.

We didn't have all those players at the time. Hence I knew you had no fucking idea what you were talking about.

You've got people like Fat Bob Taylor, Mark Kennedy etc. SWP made his debut the season after in the First Division & then only played a few games (the playoff I was talking about was in the 2nd division by the way, which is two divisions below the Premier League).

I'm sure you'll try to twist that now by saying you meant something else, but you didn't, you are just bluffing & pretending to know about a team & players you hardly ever saw play.

Why you insist on doing stuff like this, I have no idea. Just don't comment if you don't have any knowledge of the subject, instead of pretending to know stuff & arguing with people. There is no point.

[Rag_hater]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

I've made a point about what players we had at the time,I have made a point about how we spent the league in the top places all season,I have made a point about how many clubs go through financial difficulties and come through it.Your the one who won't disscuss the points without any evidence just trying to get digs at me.

We didn't have all those players at the time. Hence I knew you had no fucking idea what you were talking about.

You've got people like Fat Bob Taylor, Mark Kennedy etc. SWP made his debut the season after in the First Division & then only played a few games (the playoff I was talking about was in the 2nd division by the way, which is two divisions below the Premier League).

I'm sure you'll try to twist that now by saying you meant something else, but you didn't, you are just bluffing & pretending to know about a team & players you hardly ever saw play.

Why you insist on doing stuff like this, I have no idea. Just don't comment if you don't have any knowledge of the subject, instead of pretending to know stuff & arguing with people. There is no point.

My memory has other things in it so the exact details of our squad may not be as comprehensive as yours but for confirmation of what I knew and referred to and records that other people have kept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wright-Phillips

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_(footballer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kennedy_(footballer)


The three players you tried to prove your point with are recorded there.The other stats are taken from statto.com,if they are liars take it up with them.I have a tendency to believe them over you.I realise your a bit of a hero sacrificing all your time and money to make sure we didn't go bump so excuse me for having the temerity to question your interpretation.

[Ted Hughes]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

I've made a point about what players we had at the time,I have made a point about how we spent the league in the top places all season,I have made a point about how many clubs go through financial difficulties and come through it.Your the one who won't disscuss the points without any evidence just trying to get digs at me.

We didn't have all those players at the time. Hence I knew you had no fucking idea what you were talking about.

You've got people like Fat Bob Taylor, Mark Kennedy etc. SWP made his debut the season after in the First Division & then only played a few games (the playoff I was talking about was in the 2nd division by the way, which is two divisions below the Premier League).

I'm sure you'll try to twist that now by saying you meant something else, but you didn't, you are just bluffing & pretending to know about a team & players you hardly ever saw play.

Why you insist on doing stuff like this, I have no idea. Just don't comment if you don't have any knowledge of the subject, instead of pretending to know stuff & arguing with people. There is no point.

My memory has other things in it so the exact details of our squad may not be as comprehensive as yours but for confirmation of what I knew and referred to and records that other people have kept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wright-Phillips

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_(footballer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kennedy_(footballer)


The three players you tried to prove your point with are recorded there.The other stats are taken from statto.com,if they are liars take it up with them.I have a tendency to believe them over you.I realise your a bit of a hero sacrificing all your time and money to make sure we didn't go bump so excuse me for having the temerity to question your interpretation.

I've tried to be civil.

Robert Taylor scored against us for Gillingham in the playoff final, you embarrassing, phoney fucking excuse for a City fan.

Just fucking shut up for fucks sake.

[Rag_hater]

I actually said I didn't think we would go out of business, just that we would possibly have struggled to get back to the Premeir League for a long time if we hadn't won at Wembley, so all these stats are, as usual, completely nothing to do with the discussion.

You replied to my post so how come you don't even know what you yourself were replying to ? Read your own post. You have quoted it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in arguing, not in actually contributing to a discussion.

Other people discuss things & have a point of view. You decide you will argue with them, even if you have no idea what you are talking about & then you change the subject to create another argument when you get out of your depth.

It is just a wind up or alternatively, you are a mental case.

I've made a point about what players we had at the time,I have made a point about how we spent the league in the top places all season,I have made a point about how many clubs go through financial difficulties and come through it.Your the one who won't disscuss the points without any evidence just trying to get digs at me.

We didn't have all those players at the time. Hence I knew you had no fucking idea what you were talking about.

You've got people like Fat Bob Taylor, Mark Kennedy etc. SWP made his debut the season after in the First Division & then only played a few games (the playoff I was talking about was in the 2nd division by the way, which is two divisions below the Premier League).

I'm sure you'll try to twist that now by saying you meant something else, but you didn't, you are just bluffing & pretending to know about a team & players you hardly ever saw play.

Why you insist on doing stuff like this, I have no idea. Just don't comment if you don't have any knowledge of the subject, instead of pretending to know stuff & arguing with people. There is no point.

My memory has other things in it so the exact details of our squad may not be as comprehensive as yours but for confirmation of what I knew and referred to and records that other people have kept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wright-Phillips

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_(footballer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kennedy_(footballer)


The three players you tried to prove your point with are recorded there.The other stats are taken from statto.com,if they are liars take it up with them.I have a tendency to believe them over you.I realise your a bit of a hero sacrificing all your time and money to make sure we didn't go bump so excuse me for having the temerity to question your interpretation.

I've tried to be civil.

Robert Taylor scored against us for Gillingham in the playoff final, you embarrassing, phoney fucking excuse for a City fan.

Just fucking shut up for fucks sake.

Listened to it on radio.Not one of those heros who went.Have a witness if we were to take it to court.Fucked if I can remember the scorer except Dickov.

He also scored a goal in the 1999 play-off final at Wembley Stadium against Manchester City. Six months later, after an impressive run of 18 goals in just 19 games, it was City who swooped to sign Taylor for £1.5 million.

Taken from wiki.

[pepsi_dave]

I'd like to add that I wasn't there either, but I can recall with almost crystal accuracy, the fact that the other scorer for Gillingham was Carl Asaba,I can also recall Horlock's goal, Dickovs goal I also recall lee crooks missing by millimetres, Dickovs penalty that came off two posts if I recall correctly, I could go on.

Surely such an important monumental moment in our history would be embedded into your brain.... If I was to ask you to recall fa cup semi and final last year, rags away this year, QPR at home this year etc, you'll be able to recount with crystal accuracy the chain sequence and rough sequence of events.

Something somewhere doesn't add up pal, surely you can see that.

[Rag_hater]

I'd like to add that I wasn't there either, but I can recall with almost crystal accuracy, the fact that the other scorer for Gillingham was Carl Asaba,I can also recall Horlock's goal, Dickovs goal I also recall lee crooks missing by millimetres, Dickovs penalty that came off two posts if I recall correctly, I could go on.

Surely such an important monumental moment in our history would be embedded into your brain.... If I was to ask you to recall fa cup semi and final last year, rags away this year, QPR at home this year etc, you'll be able to recount with crystal accuracy the chain sequence and rough sequence of events.

Something somewhere doesn't add up pal, surely you can see that.

Yeah I've been rumbled.
Plastic gloryhunter who only started following is it Manchester City when we they won the league.

[Beefymcfc]

I'd like to add that I wasn't there either, but I can recall with almost crystal accuracy, the fact that the other scorer for Gillingham was Carl Asaba,I can also recall Horlock's goal, Dickovs goal I also recall lee crooks missing by millimetres, Dickovs penalty that came off two posts if I recall correctly, I could go on.

Surely such an important monumental moment in our history would be embedded into your brain.... If I was to ask you to recall fa cup semi and final last year, rags away this year, QPR at home this year etc, you'll be able to recount with crystal accuracy the chain sequence and rough sequence of events.

Something somewhere doesn't add up pal, surely you can see that.

Yeah I've been rumbled.
Plastic gloryhunter who only started following is it Manchester City when we they won the league.

It was easy to suss out to be fair. Joined just after Robinho, fought his case with a girly crush on every subject and was shown to be well in favour of Real in all matters. Being from Spain was just a coincidence.

[Rag_hater]

I suppose to think getting out of a pub league with a squad that was mainly made up of prem quality players,and thinking its not that big an achievement is probably a good way to get the abuse I've been getting.To me it was a somewhat forgetable and embarrasing experience but as it seems to be the measure the real fans are using to show the rest of the world their loyalty so I suppose the ridicule is understandable.