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Postby PeterParker » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:24 pm

Great, great article about Bobby's decisions as a manager. Here is the full article : http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1296 ... ed-to-know

Prepare yourselves, this is a long read:

When Roberto Mancini took over as manager of Manchester City in December 2009, the fear was that he had inherited a poisoned chalice. Within three years, he was the toast of the club after bringing them their first league title in 44 years.

The Italian boss has had to contend with issues during City's recent meteoric rise that other managers (at clubs where progress has been more measured) have not had to deal with.

Here are eight calls that the former Inter Milan coach has made during his time at City that has led them to the very top of English football.

1) Signing Patrick Vieira

For all the hundreds of millions of pounds spent by City since Sheikh Mansour took over at the club in 2008, Mancini's first signing was a free transfer.

In January 2010, just a few weeks after taking over, Mancini brought in veteran Vieira, his former midfield general at Inter Milan.

Vieira, a multiple-title winner at Arsenal, Juventus and Inter, only started 25 games in his 18 months as a City player, but he brought to the locker room a winning mentality and leadership to a hastily assembled group of star players.

Vieira retired after the FA Cup final victory in 2011, and remains a highly influential member of the club as their football development executive.


2) Not Replacing Joe Hart

As mentioned already, City have spent an obscene amount of money on some of the best players in the world—Yaya Toure, David Silva, Sergio Aguero—but Mancini's decision to keep one player has been just as crucial.

Along with Micah Richards, Hart is one of only two players who remain members of City's first-team squad from the day of Thaksin Shinawatra's takeover in 2007.

While Richards is constantly battling for a place in the side with the equally impressive Pablo Zabaleta, Hart is the undisputed No. 1 player that fans of both club and country would not swap for anyone.

The temptation must have been there at times to spend big on a big-name replacement from abroad, but the £600,000 signing from Shrewsbury has provided exceptional value.


3) Hiring David Platt

Soon after Mancini replaced Mark Hughes at the end of 2009, he brought in former Sampdoria teammate and Inter assistant Fausto Salsano to work as part of his coaching staff, while retaining the services of Brian Kidd.

However, the following summer he made a smart appointment which greatly helped bridge the gap between the Italian and Mancunian contingents of the club.

Platt was another former Sampdoria teammate of Mancini's—in fact, they were roommates—and hails from Oldham, Greater Manchester.

While his own management career was nothing to shout about, Platt brought with him a wealth of experience to the City dressing room and also represents the club in fine fashion when addressing the media in Mancini's absence.


4) Adjusting to New Targets

During the 2010-11 season—Mancini's first full season in charge—the manager was criticised heavily for his team's negative approach to big games, which reached its nadir during turgid 0-0 draws at home to Manchester United and away to Arsenal.

However, Mancini was acutely aware that his objective that season was not to win the title, or to entertain, but merely to qualify for the Champions League. His team achieved that aim, and as a bonus won the club's first trophy in 35 years by claiming the FA Cup.

The following season, with the Premier League title the explicit aim, Mancini made his side a far more attacking proposition, and draws suddenly became wins as City went on to be crowned champions in May.


5) Banning Carlos Tevez

It is difficult to believe that it is not even 12 months ago that Carlos Tevez refused to warm up as a substitute when Manchester City were playing a Champions League group game at Bayern Munich.

Tevez, who had been stripped of the club captaincy just a few weeks before, stuck resolutely to the bench when Mancini told him to prepare to go on, and the manager was forthright in his condemnation of the Argentinian.

"If I have my way he will be out. He's finished with me," the BBC reported Mancini as saying after the 2-0 defeat. "If we want to improve as a team Carlos can't play with us. With me, he is finished."

Mancini's stance showed the rest of his squad that there was a limit to what he would tolerate from his expensive collection of stars, and that if they ever planned on a similar course of action then they should think twice.


6) Starting Balotelli on Derby Day

Saturday October 22, 2011: Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli escapes unhurt after his house is set ablaze following the Italian setting off fireworks out of his bathroom window in the early hours of Saturday morning.

Many predict it is the end of the talented but unpredictable striker's career at City, as it was one crazy antic too much for even Mancini's patience.

Sunday October 23, 2011: Balotelli starts the Manchester derby at Old Trafford the following day, despite Edin Dzeko being another option to partner Sergio Aguero. Balotelli scores the opening goal and celebrates by revealing his now iconic "Why Always Me?" t-shirt, and then goes on to net another as City rout their local rivals 6-1.

Balotelli ends the season with 13 goals in 23 Premier League appearances. City end the season as champions, above United on goal differential.


7) Bringing Tevez Back

Five months and 23 days after that infamous night at the Allianz Arena, Tevez was brought back in from City as a substitute in the league clash with Chelsea.

The striker, who had failed to find a new club in the January transfer window and had spent most of his time suspended back in Argentina, was welcomed by a mixed reaction from the home crowd.

City were 1-0 down when Tevez came on with 35 minutes remaining, and he made a telling contribution by setting up Samir Nasri's winner. He would go on to play 10 games of City's run-in, in which they won seven and lost just one match to claim the title.

Far from looking weak by going back on his previous position, Mancini now has one of the world's best strikers grateful to be allowed back after a much-needed break from the game and is now ready to give his all to the club once again.


8) Pushing to Keep on Improving with New Signings

Mancini drew a few quizzical looks when he revealed his plans for the summer transfer window (as reported by Eurosport): "We don't need big changes, not 10 players like two or three years ago - but we need three, four, five players."

Many would question the wisdom of flooding a squad which still needs to fully gel despite winning the title with another slew of new faces, but Mancini is wise enough to know the importance of champions not resting on their laurels.

Mancini got his raft of new talent, with Jack Rodwell already featuring in all three games since his arrival before Javi Garcia, Maicon, Scott Sinclair, Matija Nastasic and Richard Wright signed on deadline day (the same day Stefan Savic, Nigel de Jong and Roque Santa Cruz left).
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Dunne's Half-Time Pint » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:31 pm

Yeah - good stuff - not quite the long read you'd primed me for mind.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:40 pm

Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Yeah - good stuff - not quite the long read you'd primed me for mind.


i think the OP is used to reading newspaper picture captions, in which case, he is entirely correct.

Good read notwithstanding the fact that i hunkered down with a drink, and a blanket to read it and was done before i took a sip. Okay, i made that last part up.

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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby PeterParker » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Yeah - good stuff - not quite the long read you'd primed me for mind.


Yeah, well when i wrote that line i was just on that first page of that articles, so i was convinced it will be longer, but the fuckers tricked me.

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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:06 pm

Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Yeah - good stuff - not quite the long read you'd primed me for mind.


Hello stranger. Welcome back.

Also great article, really enjoyed it. I do think time will tell in regards to this window being one of his best decisions, I think perhaps releasing the pressure of the squad last season could have taken its place.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby ronk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:20 pm

Hart was already first choice and there hasn't been anyone better on the market, what decision?

Vieira was another easy one, no risk.

What he did well was allowing Robinho to move and getting rid of Stephen Ireland etc. Popular players, risky decisions successful.

Spotting that Yaya Toure was an attacking
mid was genius. That was a huge decision to build a team around that gamble.

Picking Kompany as the main option at centre half rather than behind Onuoha and Kolo/Lescott was a huge decision that's been so important for everything.

Making sure we got Aguero is up there, Silva too.

Facing down Tevez is up there. It'll be a while before anyone messes with him.

Going toe-to-toe with bacon face in the mind games stakes was a great decision, brilliantly executed.

Forcing Marwood to shit or get off the pot with respect to transfers too.

Backing inherited players like Barry, Lescott and Zabaleta during such a time of insecurity over signings.

Sorting the defense before the attack, regardless of any pressures to entertain or score goals.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Dameerto » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:35 pm

I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:25 pm

Dameerto wrote:I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.


Shay injuried hisself. Did he not?

Amiright?
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby halnone » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:04 am

Dameerto wrote:I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.

agreed.
I remember wishing Given was in goal over Hart. How wrong could I be.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Dameerto » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:14 am

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Dameerto wrote:I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.


Shay injuried hisself. Did he not?

Amiright?


I think he did his shoulder while Hart was out on loan, I remember everyone going ape towards the end of the season when it happened, about us not being able to recall him and us having to use Fulop as an emergency keeper which the press tried to make a big thing out of, listing all the keepers we had at the club but failing to mention most of them were still suckling a wet nurse's tit. Injury carried over into the summer and I THINK he was pretty much ok to go for the start of the new season (or very near) - which is the point where Mancini made his ballsy call to go with Hart as his longterm number one.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby ronk » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:25 am

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Dameerto wrote:I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.


Shay injuried hisself. Did he not?

Amiright?


No. Shay was on the bench for the first game of the 2010/2011 season and didn't play in the prem all that season. Hart was picked when he came back from Birmingham. Shay was injured for the end of the 2009/2010 season, but that wasn't really a factor.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:54 am

ronk wrote:
No. Shay was on the bench for the first game of the 2010/2011 season and didn't play in the prem all that season. Hart was picked when he came back from Birmingham. Shay was injured for the end of the 2009/2010 season, but that wasn't really a factor.


Thanks. I remembered it that shay was injured all summer from that shoulder shit and was iffy for the start of the season so joe got the nod returning from brum.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Slim » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:24 am

Moving Kompany to centrehalf full time.

Making Kompany captain.

Shipping disruptive dressingroom influences like Bellamy and Adebayor.

Signing Silva.

Signing Aguero.

Playing mindgames with the media who said the title race was over.

Signing Pat...that was a good one.

Instituting the "train as you play" mentality.


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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Avalon » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:50 am

Bleacher Report is terrible indeed, although those are fair 8 decisions that stood out. However, a few others have mentioned another couple of decisions that were very good as well.
I'm just pleased he's our manager.

The mindgames he played with Fergie were great though. Kept saying that we had lost the title, putting all pressure on Man Utd. I kept shouting over the TV, NO BOBBY, NO! We can still win it! Then we did. You sly dog, you.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:04 am

Geting rid of Savic.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Chinners » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:09 am

Avalon wrote:Bleacher Report is terrible indeed, although those are fair 8 decisions that stood out. However, a few others have mentioned another couple of decisions that were very good as well.
I'm just pleased he's our manager.


Agreed. That article was quite pro City which is very unusual from the American version of "Click Manchester"
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby PeterParker » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:10 am

ronk wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Dameerto wrote:I think the decision was to go with Hart as number one rather than Given who hadn't really done much wrong at that point - it was ballsy to me and I probably didn't agree with it at the time. Mancini knew whatever he decided the other keeper would want to leave.


Shay injuried hisself. Did he not?

Amiright?


No. Shay was on the bench for the first game of the 2010/2011 season and didn't play in the prem all that season. Hart was picked when he came back from Birmingham. Shay was injured for the end of the 2009/2010 season, but that wasn't really a factor.


Bobby made that decision after Shay injured himself with Arsenal, when that kid from Faroe took his place.

If you recall, after that, even if Given was available, every preseason game City had was with Joe as a starter. Joe had an incredible game at Spurs, where it should had been 5-1 for them, if he didn't had those saves, then a game when he didn't had nothing to do with Liverpool and after that 3 poor games in a row and there we had that huge mistake with Blackburn, when it ended 1-1.

I think Joe took Given's place because Bobby was convinced Shay will be a liability because of his injuries.
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Renato_CTID » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:22 am

Remeber how Shay was injuried on that game! He badly fell on his shoulder taking a shoot completely out of goal. He showed that day his lack of concentration and Bobby never forgave him!
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:20 pm

Could letting bygones be bygones with tevez be another good decision..looking that way...
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Re: Bobby's top 8 decisions

Postby Alex Sapphire » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:31 pm

Bianchi on Ice wrote:Could letting bygones be bygones with tevez be another good decision..looking that way...


that's no. 7 isn't it?

what about having his bike painted blue?
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