Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks Doug.
In regards Gregucci, is it fair to say from what you've seen in training that he has assumed Lombardo's previous role?
I'm sure it was the Daily Fail who first suggested he was hired as a defensive coach, is there anything from what you've seen that would suggest he is? I only ask because it seems from reading your reports that he does very little, if anything at all with the defence.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
Plain Speaking wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
I understand what your saying but if we want to be the best club in the world we should be bringing in the best talent and expertise not just old mates.
Plain Speaking wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
I understand what your saying but if we want to be the best club in the world we should be bringing in the best talent and expertise not just old mates.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Plain Speaking wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
I understand what your saying but if we want to be the best club in the world we should be bringing in the best talent and expertise not just old mates.
Yep, I accept that argument but the best in the world may not necessarily be able to work well with Mancini.
Besides, who are the best coaches? What makes them the best? etc. ie what yardstick do we use to measure a coach's ability?
Plain Speaking wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Doug.
@Mancio, I get how the whole 'jobs for the boy's issue may piss people off but it is understandable that you would surround yourself with people you trust.
I understand what your saying but if we want to be the best club in the world we should be bringing in the best talent and expertise not just old mates.
Mancio4ever wrote:That's exactly the point.
I don't have any problem with the manager who bring in his men: it's the natural course of a team work.
Nor I have with an italian who brings italians, insofar those italians are Massimo Battara, probably the best keepers' coach and keepers developer in the world, with proven track records; or Sergio Viganò, a physio who is so good that mancini has brought him every where he went since he left Sampdoria: nobody has been allowed to touch mancini's muscles other than him.
I also have little problem with Fausto, because every manager has the next door nice chap, in charge of balancing the iron fist of the manager: also Salsano features good knowledge and intelligence of football (as he did as a players) he is a lifelong true pal of Bob and I am almost certain that he is the one who Mancini send to scout players which he is particularly keen.
But what the hell is the use of Gregucci, someone who does bring nothing to the caoching procedures, has an average track records at best, and has just met Roberto Mancini for a couple of years in the Lazio dressing room???
. Get him to sell shoes with Marwood, imo.
rant over. sorry.
Wonderwall wrote:Mancio4ever wrote:That's exactly the point.
I don't have any problem with the manager who bring in his men: it's the natural course of a team work.
Nor I have with an italian who brings italians, insofar those italians are Massimo Battara, probably the best keepers' coach and keepers developer in the world, with proven track records; or Sergio Viganò, a physio who is so good that mancini has brought him every where he went since he left Sampdoria: nobody has been allowed to touch mancini's muscles other than him.
I also have little problem with Fausto, because every manager has the next door nice chap, in charge of balancing the iron fist of the manager: also Salsano features good knowledge and intelligence of football (as he did as a players) he is a lifelong true pal of Bob and I am almost certain that he is the one who Mancini send to scout players which he is particularly keen.
But what the hell is the use of Gregucci, someone who does bring nothing to the caoching procedures, has an average track records at best, and has just met Roberto Mancini for a couple of years in the Lazio dressing room???
. Get him to sell shoes with Marwood, imo.
rant over. sorry.
So you trust Bob to bring in nice people next door and good technical coaches but you slag him off for Gregucci? So is he allowed to bring in his own backroom staff and do you trust him or not. You cant have both opinions on the same argument?
Mancio4ever wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Mancio4ever wrote:That's exactly the point.
I don't have any problem with the manager who bring in his men: it's the natural course of a team work.
Nor I have with an italian who brings italians, insofar those italians are Massimo Battara, probably the best keepers' coach and keepers developer in the world, with proven track records; or Sergio Viganò, a physio who is so good that mancini has brought him every where he went since he left Sampdoria: nobody has been allowed to touch mancini's muscles other than him.
I also have little problem with Fausto, because every manager has the next door nice chap, in charge of balancing the iron fist of the manager: also Salsano features good knowledge and intelligence of football (as he did as a players) he is a lifelong true pal of Bob and I am almost certain that he is the one who Mancini send to scout players which he is particularly keen.
But what the hell is the use of Gregucci, someone who does bring nothing to the caoching procedures, has an average track records at best, and has just met Roberto Mancini for a couple of years in the Lazio dressing room???
. Get him to sell shoes with Marwood, imo.
rant over. sorry.
So you trust Bob to bring in nice people next door and good technical coaches but you slag him off for Gregucci? So is he allowed to bring in his own backroom staff and do you trust him or not. You cant have both opinions on the same argument?
good remark.
I labelled it as a rant and that what probably it's just.
but this Gregucci strolling about the Club doing nothing nor even pretending to do either, really piss me off.
If had heard, just once at least, that he was shaping whatsoever defensive task, maybe just plainly executing what's Bob devised to do, I'd probably feel differently, but this way, particularly as an Italian who have spent much effort to wipe many stereotypes off Bob shoulders really drop my tolerance down.
Either way, Your remark is plain logic and I have already advanced my regret for steaming off.
I'll elaborate such opinion further on and come back if deeming to have some point to add to debate, otherwise I'll shut up... ;)
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:You should trust Mancini more. On the surface of what I see in an hour or so days training,Gregucci doesn't seem to do more than Platt or Kidd but there is a lot more to the role I am sure than what I see.
johnny crossan wrote:No sign of Micah yet Doug? Somebody reckons he saw him sprinting round the shops last week!
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