Mario Taking City To A Tribunal

[Hazy2]

Cantona, was in my old man's mind the only player he has ever seen at the Swamp who could have played in the Busby Babes team. The only player he has seen slow a game down to his pace, whenever he wanted he went up a gear. My old man was a rag through and through. Mario will never be as good as Cantona, who trained like a demon and set standards for the whole club to follow. He is still a cunt in my eyes, but I hate everything about the rag cunts. Soap in my mouth as I type.

[Beefymcfc]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

Whilst what you say is true, I'd find what you say much more compelling if he played for another team! With regards to transcendence, Barcelona's football transcends the boundaries of what we have expected from a football team, and Balotelli wouldn't get anywhere near that club because their focus is on what happens on the pitch. Our focus should be the same....

[Sister of fu]

Cantona, was in my old man's mind the only player he has ever seen at the Swamp who could have played in the Busby Babes team. The only player he has seen slow a game down to his pace, whenever he wanted he went up a gear. My old man was a rag through and through. Mario will never be as good as Cantona, who trained like a demon and set standards for the whole club to follow. He is still a cunt in my eyes, but I hate everything about the rag cunts. Soap in my mouth as I type.

Cantona was a world class player and he was world class because as you said above he trained like a demon. Stayed extra after training, practised and practised and was which is hard to say a joy to watch. The only thing him and Mario have in commen is that there are both fruit loops. Mario will never be world class as he just doesn't work hard enough and I will be glad once he has gone. He drags the name of city down and really doesn't appear to give to shits about that.

[mr_nool]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

After close to 12 years together, with me watching every City game on the telly, my missus still only know the name of two City players: Balotelli and Nasri. And the latter only because it sounds like her favourite dish (nasi goreng).

As Beefy says, like it or loath it, but he's up there with Imbrahimovich, Beckham and Ronaldo. He's more than a footballer, he's a media phenomena.

[Blue Blood]

I can't remember the last time he had a decent game. Might have been the derby last year? Sorry but this clown's jokes just aren't funny anymore. Please get rid.

Sad to say i'm in agreement.

We can not carry players like Balotelli because they have "character" and "potential".

The players we play have to do the business now, we can not wait, we are not that kind of club anymore.

[MilnersJaw]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

After close to 12 years together, with me watching every City game on the telly, my missus still only know the name of two City players: Balotelli and Nasri. And the latter only because it sounds like her favourite dish (nasi goreng).

As Beefy says, like it or loath it, but he's up there with Imbrahimovich, Beckham and Ronaldo. He's more than a footballer, he's a media phenomena.

while this is true. Is he worth having around just for acting like an idiot, earning 100k a week? or even costing a position on the field that someone more useful or even costing a game.

How do we expect to win in europe if we a accommodate a personality, just for laughs and attention.

[mr_nool]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

After close to 12 years together, with me watching every City game on the telly, my missus still only know the name of two City players: Balotelli and Nasri. And the latter only because it sounds like her favourite dish (nasi goreng).

As Beefy says, like it or loath it, but he's up there with Imbrahimovich, Beckham and Ronaldo. He's more than a footballer, he's a media phenomena.

while this is true. Is he worth having around just for acting like an idiot, earning 100k a week? or even costing a position on the field that someone more useful or even costing a game.

How do we expect to win in europe if we a accommodate a personality, just for laughs and attention.

I didn't make any judgment as to whether we should keep him or not. FOr the record, I lost my patience with him quite a while ago.

[Chinners]

Apparently City are again trying to do another Tevez jobbie and deduct wages that is not allowed under the PFA/Prem/Football league agreement with regards to fines for diciplinary reasons. I have a worrying feeling that they might have to back down/lose again on this one to the PFA .... Not good if that happens imo

[Dubaimancityfan]

I think we all agree that Balo has not lived up to the potential and the talent that he undoubtedly has and has not delivered anything even close to what we expected from him when he was first signed. Many on this forum have expressed their desire to see him go, sooner rather than later. I agree but for different reasons.
To start with and going back to the derby, I don’t think that Mario performed so badly in the first half. We all saw that we dominated the match in the first 20 minutes and Mario was part of that ! We hardly can blame Balo for the 2 soft goals that we conceded which changed the match. However two things went against Mario in that match and for both I blame Mancini .
The first was that he should not have started instead of Tevez in this very important match with so much Media attention focused on it. This inevitably set him up for failure as many people (City fans, the Media and others) are predisposed to judge him very quickly.
The second was Mancini’s attitude. If he was not happy with Mario’s performance in the first half, he should have pulled him off at the interval. However by giving him less than 10 minutes and then pulling him out immediately after an attempted back pass didn't work, was for me an insult that no player can accept. This set the stage for all the haters (match commentators included) to see how Mario will react. Well, he didn't disappoint and he went straight down the tunnel. What else would you expect from Mario ?
Mario will not succeed in English football because it is very clear that all Refs have prejudged him and offer him little or no protection. Opposing players know this very well, so they foul him at every opportunity, knowing that in 90% of the cases they will get away with it. We've all seen the soft yellow cards he gets from Refs (the match against Liverpool last season comes to mind). No doubt he has deserved many of the yellow or red cards that he was given but no all. The attitude of the Refs and the opposing players results in him becoming agitated, lose concentration and consequently play badly. I think he is not mature enough (yet) to handle such pressure and what he perceives as injustice, although he has improved this season (no red cards yet!).
And that’s why I think he should go back to the Continent and make a fresh start which will not be easy as his reputation will precede him but maybe, just maybe, it will work out for him as it has not in England.

[Swales4ever]

Very strong point made by Beefy and Noolie: like or loath we are in business and we do want to mean business: the likes of Mario sells and I have no doubt of which media phenomena I take amongst Mario, the Transvestite and Beckingham.

Aside, if I may, Hazy2 should show much respect to his Old Man: come on Pal, I'd better call him a U*d fan.... :-)

[Hazy2]

I think we all agree that Balo has not lived up to the potential and the talent that he undoubtedly has and has not delivered anything even close to what we expected from him when he was first signed. Many on this forum have expressed their desire to see him go, sooner rather than later. I agree but for different reasons.
To start with and going back to the derby, I don’t think that Mario performed so badly in the first half. We all saw that we dominated the match in the first 20 minutes and Mario was part of that ! We hardly can blame Balo for the 2 soft goals that we conceded which changed the match. However two things went against Mario in that match and for both I blame Mancini .
The first was that he should not have started instead of Tevez in this very important match with so much Media attention focused on it. This inevitably set him up for failure as many people (City fans, the Media and others) are predisposed to judge him very quickly.
The second was Mancini’s attitude. If he was not happy with Mario’s performance in the first half, he should have pulled him off at the interval. However by giving him less than 10 minutes and then pulling him out immediately after an attempted back pass didn't work, was for me an insult that no player can accept. This set the stage for all the haters (match commentators included) to see how Mario will react. Well, he didn't disappoint and he went straight down the tunnel. What else would you expect from Mario ?
Mario will not succeed in English football because it is very clear that all Refs have prejudged him and offer him little or no protection. Opposing players know this very well, so they foul him at every opportunity, knowing that in 90% of the cases they will get away with it. We've all seen the soft yellow cards he gets from Refs (the match against Liverpool last season comes to mind). No doubt he has deserved many of the yellow or red cards that he was given but no all. The attitude of the Refs and the opposing players results in him becoming agitated, lose concentration and consequently play badly. I think he is not mature enough (yet) to handle such pressure and what he perceives as injustice, although he has improved this season (no red cards yet!).
And that’s why I think he should go back to the Continent and make a fresh start which will not be easy as his reputation will precede him but maybe, just maybe, it will work out for him as it has not in England.

That is a well balanced post mate. I take nothing from giving him stick, He in turn for me anyway gets nothing from playing for us. The Derby was the final straw for me, and if he had instruction to roam into our half, Mancini wants a slap. The scum are crap at the back and we all knew this, Mario was nothing more than a 5, he gave Silva nothing to hit, I go home and away,this season he has had one run at WBA away and that is it, he went off we won, Do I miss him went he does not play NO, This last saga is a piss take, sadly he fails in every sense to get it, this is MCFC not the Mario show for me good bye good luck.

[Dameerto]

Apparently City are again trying to do another Tevez jobbie and deduct wages that is not allowed under the PFA/Prem/Football league agreement with regards to fines for diciplinary reasons. I have a worrying feeling that they might have to back down/lose again on this one to the PFA .... Not good if that happens imo

From my limited reading of it (through shitty online tabloids etc) they seem to think we have fined him two week's wages for three offences which we claim constitutes a pattern of onfield behaviour that's unacceptable. The two week's wages isn't a problem with the PFA because it's already allowed by them at the club's discretion. Balotelli is claiming the club (via Mancini) backed him on two of the offences at the time and has now gone back on it. I don't think he'll get anywhere with his appeal (just like he didn't when he allegedly appealed to the club and failed) because the fine is discretionary and he accepts at least one of the offences was his fault.

[Chinners]

From the case I heard the PFA make, this fine is on top of the fines he's already had for the offences. Asort of 'you've had too many fines' fine if you like. If that is the case and the PFA have got their facts right then it will be amazing if the club wins this one (I hope they do thou) as it will set a precedent. It was like when they tried to fine Tevez 4 weeks wages but had to back down to the legally allowed two weeks wages

[Dameerto]

From the case I heard the PFA make, this fine is on top of the fines he's already had for the offences. Asort of 'you've had too many fines' fine if you like. If that is the case and the PFA have got their facts right then it will be amazing if the club wins this one (I hope they do thou) as it will set a precedent. It was like when they tried to fine Tevez 4 weeks wages but had to back down to the legally allowed two weeks wages

Ah that's info I've not heard. Were the original fines issued by the club or were they some sort of automatic FA thing? (IE collected by the club on their own behalf or on behalf of the FA?)

[Beefymcfc]

The message I read from that was it wasn't about Mario's talent (latent may it be) but more about the individual. We all know we love football but that isn't the end of it. We can talk about the goals, the passes, the tackles, but we mainly talk about the incidents inside and outside of the football arena. Mario brings something to the sport that transcends what happens on the pitch. Pure drama, better than anything Corrie or Eastenders could ever dream up.

Like it or loathe it, you have to say, it's different and sometimes a breath of thresh air.

Whilst what you say is true, I'd find what you say much more compelling if he played for another team! With regards to transcendence, Barcelona's football transcends the boundaries of what we have expected from a football team, and Balotelli wouldn't get anywhere near that club because their focus is on what happens on the pitch. Our focus should be the same....

I am neither condoning or damning Mario's exploits, just pointing out that he is more than just the sum of his parts. And I agree, our focus should be what we do on the pitch but while we are getting publicity, good or bad, it puts the club out there. We are not Barcalona, or Real Madrid, or the Rags. We have a long way to catch up but in the interim, Mario has probably brought more coverage to the club than most.

[Chinners]

From the case I heard the PFA make, this fine is on top of the fines he's already had for the offences. Asort of 'you've had too many fines' fine if you like. If that is the case and the PFA have got their facts right then it will be amazing if the club wins this one (I hope they do thou) as it will set a precedent. It was like when they tried to fine Tevez 4 weeks wages but had to back down to the legally allowed two weeks wages

Ah that's info I've not heard. Were the original fines issued by the club or were they some sort of automatic FA thing? (IE collected by the club on their own behalf or on behalf of the FA?)

I don't know to be honest. But if as presumed, the club fined him for his bans at the time then by the agreement with the league, they arte not allowed to fine him again .... which is what they were trying to do with Tevez in a slightly different way but had to back down to a 2 not 4 week fine .... gonna be interesting tomorrow

[paul_oresteia]

So...

Sky Sports News & Talksport are reporting that Balo & City have settled this & the tribunal will not go ahead.

If anyone cares, that is.

[Ted Hughes]

So...

Sky Sports News & Talksport are reporting that Balo & City have settled this & the tribunal will not go ahead.

If anyone cares, that is.

I think it's good news tbh. If he'd gone through with this, I think it could have led to a lot of trouble over the Christmas period as the club would not be happy but Bob wants to keep him. Now it can (hopefully) blow over & we can get on with playing football.

[Wonderwall]

Imo its a very good decision by whomever, but you dont take your employers to a tribunal like a spoilt twat when money is no object and you have been a knob, then expect all in the world to be rosy.

Goodbye mario, shame we hardly saw this amazing talent that mancini and you think so highly of.