Nasri VS Milner

[Ted Hughes]

I'd prefer milner mainly because of the work rate, effort and determination to win, not the best footballer but is decent enough to start each week, although I prefer him wide than in the middle.

nasri time and time again is a let down, he was on and off for arsenal but for us, he is mostly off.

when he gets the ball, watch him run around in a circle like a chicken with it, if an opposition player is near him, it is sad, he doesn't even have any confidence either. Majority of the time, like 80% he will give the ball away if he tries to go past just one player.

I prefer Milner in the centre personally. Not keen on either of them as wide players but probably prefer Milner. Think Nasri has been good in his last two games though. Still mainly refuses to cross, but done a lot of other simple but effective stuff & a few very clever moments. Just don't see it lasting though.

[Swales4ever]

Nasri is a typical Arsenal player. Looks great when the sun is shining but goes awol when you most need him to step it up.

Totally agree. I've said this before. He's perfect for arsenal, but not for a team who want to win things.

Saying that, he's been much better in the bits he's played since the derby, so maybe they Private Pile'd him in training following that and he's manned up a bit.

the last 2 games he played he made a massive difference.
Let's give the Lad a break and see what constancy he can deliver... life can surprise more than fiction, every now and then.

Looked very sharp last two games & has definitely improved us, but I still feel there are 20 or 30 players who can do the same job better than him, some 50% better. (Not Milner though: different kind of player). Imo, we should look to sign someone better & use him as backup or sell.

Got a name for one of these 20 or 30 Ted?

Ted, like myself, likes to enforce his point with redundant numbers ;-) but he is spot on nonetheless.
Hazard, Goetze, Muniain, the new chased prospect Isco, the Barca uprising young fella would suit our enhancement more than Samir, for sure: my point was still the same as usual: let's be pragmatic and keep working with what we already have, which ain't bad at all, btw.
Obviously Jimmy Jaws is to be mainly deemed as a holding central mid, who occasional may fits different bills due to his versatility and dynamism. different kind of player.

Ideally, what could have took us technically quite on par Barca (Messi aside) would have been the 2 much talked signings: De Rossi + Hazzard, despite I (personally) would much prefer either Muniain or Goetze to the latter.

[Dameerto]

I'd prefer milner mainly because of the work rate, effort and determination to win, not the best footballer but is decent enough to start each week, although I prefer him wide than in the middle.

nasri time and time again is a let down, he was on and off for arsenal but for us, he is mostly off.

when he gets the ball, watch him run around in a circle like a chicken with it, if an opposition player is near him, it is sad, he doesn't even have any confidence either. Majority of the time, like 80% he will give the ball away if he tries to go past just one player.

I prefer Milner in the centre personally. Not keen on either of them as wide players but probably prefer Milner. Think Nasri has been good in his last two games though. Still mainly refuses to cross, but done a lot of other simple but effective stuff & a few very clever moments. Just don't see it lasting though.

Before he got sent off yesterday he was doing his annoying habit of getting the ball, stopping with it while staring at the opposition's player, THEN trying to beat him. It pisses me off every time he does it and it contributes to our attacks slowing down.

[Cocacolajojo1]

I think we get the best of Milner by playing him on the right flank, especially with Micah on the same side of the field. I don't know if we get the best out of Nasri by playing him on any of the flanks though, so I don't really think it's a fair comparison.

It would be cool to see Nasri being played more centrally, at the hart of things in midfield. If we didn't have so many strikers to satisfy in regards to playing time, I think it would be ideal to play him in a central role in a five man midfield.

[aaron bond]

I'd prefer milner mainly because of the work rate, effort and determination to win, not the best footballer but is decent enough to start each week, although I prefer him wide than in the middle.

nasri time and time again is a let down, he was on and off for arsenal but for us, he is mostly off.

when he gets the ball, watch him run around in a circle like a chicken with it, if an opposition player is near him, it is sad, he doesn't even have any confidence either. Majority of the time, like 80% he will give the ball away if he tries to go past just one player.

I prefer Milner in the centre personally. Not keen on either of them as wide players but probably prefer Milner. Think Nasri has been good in his last two games though. Still mainly refuses to cross, but done a lot of other simple but effective stuff & a few very clever moments. Just don't see it lasting though.

Before he got sent off yesterday he was doing his annoying habit of getting the ball, stopping with it while staring at the opposition's player, THEN trying to beat him. It pisses me off every time he does it and it contributes to our attacks slowing down.

It was so frustrating watching him do this in the first half against Norwich. There were so many occasions when he was right in front of us and had an opportunity to cross the ball first time, or even taking one touch. But instead of doing so, he turned backwards and passed the ball to someone else. He slows our play down significantly.

Overall, since he's been with us he has been a big disappointment. You can see he has talent but he rarely shows what he is capable of. He is far too inconsistent to warrant a starting place in our side.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I'd prefer milner mainly because of the work rate, effort and determination to win, not the best footballer but is decent enough to start each week, although I prefer him wide than in the middle.

nasri time and time again is a let down, he was on and off for arsenal but for us, he is mostly off.

when he gets the ball, watch him run around in a circle like a chicken with it, if an opposition player is near him, it is sad, he doesn't even have any confidence either. Majority of the time, like 80% he will give the ball away if he tries to go past just one player.

I prefer Milner in the centre personally. Not keen on either of them as wide players but probably prefer Milner. Think Nasri has been good in his last two games though. Still mainly refuses to cross, but done a lot of other simple but effective stuff & a few very clever moments. Just don't see it lasting though.

Before he got sent off yesterday he was doing his annoying habit of getting the ball, stopping with it while staring at the opposition's player, THEN trying to beat him. It pisses me off every time he does it and it contributes to our attacks slowing down.

It was so frustrating watching him do this in the first half against Norwich. There were so many occasions when he was right in front of us and had an opportunity to cross the ball first time, or even taking one touch. But instead of doing so, he turned backwards and passed the ball to someone else. He slows our play down significantly.

Overall, since he's been with us he has been a big disappointment. You can see he has talent but he rarely shows what he is capable of. He is far too inconsistent to warrant a starting place in our side.

Exactly what people have been saying and have been accused of being rag lovers for. When you get a chance to put the ball in, do it.

[paulh]

Milner is all round whilst Nasri does not do it regular enough and doesn't like it when the games get physical/not his way

Would love to get rid in January if we could replace

[C & C]

Nasri seems to need acres of space to operate to get the best out of him. In an open game I'd prefer him. But City have mostly played against packed defenses in hard fought games. Not what Nasri prefers. Whereas Milner relishes contact. Milner also seems to make more intelligent runs through the defense in a tight compact game.

I'd be quite happy to upgrade from Nasri, or at least get someone in to give him competition for his place.

[chips]

Isco?

[mr_nool]

I'm gonna put my neck on the block...

I think Nasri is a much better player than Milner. He needs to be more consistent and put in more of an effort, but over all, I think he contributes more to our team than Milner. Jimmy has had a few amazing games for us, but most people seem to forget all his mediocre displays, whereas Samir's are highlighted.

[Dameerto]

I'm gonna put my neck on the block...

I think Nasri is a much better player than Milner. He needs to be more consistent and put in more of an effort, but over all, I think he contributes more to our team than Milner. Jimmy has had a few amazing games for us, but most people seem to forget all his mediocre displays, whereas Samir's are highlighted.

The difference to me is that Milner gets played all over the field second only to Zabs - he may have had a few dodgy games whilst appearing here there and everywhere but compare it to Nasri who is much less versatile (to the point of being almost one dimensional) and who STILL hasn't shone consistently in his area of expertise.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

The difference to me is that Milner gets played all over the field second only to Zabs - he may have had a few dodgy games whilst appearing here there and everywhere but compare it to Nasri who is much less versatile (to the point of being almost one dimensional) and who STILL hasn't shone consistently in his area of expertise.

I think the difference is near the opposite.

If Milner was played in 1 spot in our attack, which for a while last season he was (wide right) he doesn't offer as much (goals and assist wise) as Nasri would in that spot.

Puts much more of a shift in, but as we saw at the world cup (which on 2nd thought night be part of what I'm remembering) he doesn't inspire much attack wise all that often. He just lacks the creativity.

[Dameerto]

The difference to me is that Milner gets played all over the field second only to Zabs - he may have had a few dodgy games whilst appearing here there and everywhere but compare it to Nasri who is much less versatile (to the point of being almost one dimensional) and who STILL hasn't shone consistently in his area of expertise.

I think the difference is near the opposite.

If Milner was played in 1 spot in our attack, which for a while last season he was (wide right) he doesn't offer as much (goals and assist wise) as Nasri would in that spot.

Puts much more of a shift in, but as we saw at the world cup (which on 2nd thought night be part of what I'm remembering) he doesn't inspire much attack wise all that often. He just lacks the creativity.

You're talking about the world cup where he played while still ill, but managed to put in more effort than most of the fully fit players? He did well in the opening game (3-0 win) then caught a virus and should have been sent home.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

You're talking about the world cup where he played while still ill, but managed to put in more effort than most of the fully fit players? He did well in the opening game (3-0 win) then caught a virus and should have been sent home.

That's my point tho isn't it. Effort wise he's top notch, creativity is lacking tho

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Neither of them is capable of beating a man and putting in decent crosses consistantly. We need a natural wide man.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Neither of them is capable of beating a man and putting in decent crosses consistantly. We need a natural wide man.

Bit unfair on Milner I would say as he puts some great crosses in compared to Nasri who threatens to cross, watches everyone run in for it and then cuts back so they are offside and the move slows/breaks down.

[chips]

Bit unfair on Milner I would say as he puts some great crosses in compared to Nasri who threatens to cross, watches everyone run in for it and then cuts back so they are offside and the move slows/breaks down.

Couldn't have said it better myself. So frustrating when he does that. Too often for my liking.

[Swales4ever]

Neither of them is capable of beating a man and putting in decent crosses consistantly. We need a natural wide man.

Bit unfair on Milner I would say as he puts some great crosses in compared to Nasri who threatens to cross, watches everyone run in for it and then cuts back so they are offside and the move slows/breaks down.

my memory rarely helps.... shit!
but plain crosses aside, we should always bearing in mind last season game (what the hell it was?) when Jimmy started an imperious counter by cutting the pitch from left to right and followed it to finalize with a magnificent strike from the edge: it sums up Milner's potential pretty nicely... certainly not as smart genious as a Siva or a Xavi Hernandez, but with a couple of more seasons at top level under the belt he is gonna become quite as smart as my beloved Gaz Baz with more dynamism as add on.

yet again, what we are looking through Nasri and/or who shall further come up (Muniain/Goetze/Isco) is a totally different kind, deemed to different use.

[Dameerto]

You're talking about the world cup where he played while still ill, but managed to put in more effort than most of the fully fit players? He did well in the opening game (3-0 win) then caught a virus and should have been sent home.

That's my point tho isn't it. Effort wise he's top notch, creativity is lacking tho

Your point seems to be that you're judging him on how he plays when he's ill - rather than judging that other stubborn Italian for playing him when he was ill.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Your point seems to be that you're judging him on how he plays when he's ill - rather than judging that other stubborn Italian for playing him when he was ill.

I've watched him enough times to know he's not got that little bit of magic you need to play in advanced spots in top teams every week.

I'm not having a go at him either, he's worthy of a spot in our side and I like him, just not got the talent Nasri does IMO.