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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby john68 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:48 am

You are so right PD. his whole reaction immediately after the tackle was one of guilt.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby dick dastardley » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:54 am

Fron the refs angle i can see why he called it but from side on a perfectly good challenge
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby zuricity » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:59 am

dick dastardley wrote:Fron the refs angle i can see why he called it but from side on a perfectly good challenge


No no no, even from the refs side i cannot see why he gave Kompany the card . It was never a foul abs as the photo above clearly shows Wilshere lost his footing. It was not a foul by the city player, never in a month od sundays.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby john68 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:59 am

Earlier, my view was to accept the 3 games, which I felt we could manage and not risk the extra game versus Liverpool.
Having seen the incident now, I can't for the life of me see any reason not to challenge this. Even if our challenge failed, I cannot see how any such appeal could be considered frivolous.

If this doesn't get turned over, the game is either corrupt or dead...or both.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Ajardine » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:06 am

From the referees point of view, it looked like a red. As soon as the card came out I slated Vinnie and thought it was a needless challenge which deserved a red. From the replays, I changed my decision and don't think it was a red, we should appeal.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:20 am

Listening to TalkSport and early on Irani states that it could've gone either way but now Lewis (journo) is on and defending the challenge as a good tackle Irani has just come out with the 'Potential Leg Breaker' line to further his case.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:27 am

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mr_nool wrote:It wasn't a red, but there's no way we will win an appeal.




All the panel will do is look at the rear angle of the tackle where both feet are off the floor, yeah he won the ball but that angle clearly shows two feet off the ground. I fear he want win an appeal. IMO Vinny should no better from what happend last season, he is always going to run a fine line in this modern age of football making that type of tackle. I think he won the ball but you just can't tackle anymore so always running the risk of a red with that type of robust tacking.


It's a fucking bad joke - winning the ball fairly has become a red card offence. It's killing the game, defenders should be allowed to defend - a stern challenge as long as the ball is played is a fair one. The only reason players are more easily injured in those sort of challenges is becasue they wear slippers instaead of boots ffs.


Quite right. What the fuck is he meant to do? Just let Wilshere run through?
The little precious twat over ran, Vinnie took it off him clean as a whistle and if anybody fouled it was that little frangile ponce.
Yes appeal it, because it wasn't even a foul. (Don't think it will be over turned)
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:11 am

john68 wrote:Earlier, my view was to accept the 3 games, which I felt we could manage and not risk the extra game versus Liverpool.
Having seen the incident now, I can't for the life of me see any reason not to challenge this. Even if our challenge failed, I cannot see how any such appeal could be considered frivolous.

If this doesn't get turned over, the game is either corrupt or dead...or both.

Whether it does or it doesn't, the game in this country is 'open to manipulation' by at least one club I can think of, if not more.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Bear60 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:28 am

Beefymcfc wrote:Listening to TalkSport and early on Irani states that it could've gone either way but now Lewis (journo) is on and defending the challenge as a good tackle Irani has just come out with the 'Potential Leg Breaker' line to further his case.


Iheard this , that Irani is an out andout rag Brasil was arguing with Lewis too, apparantly Alan Hansen has written an article about it in the telegraph defending Vinnie
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:37 am

Bear60 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Listening to TalkSport and early on Irani states that it could've gone either way but now Lewis (journo) is on and defending the challenge as a good tackle Irani has just come out with the 'Potential Leg Breaker' line to further his case.


Iheard this , that Irani is an out andout rag Brasil was arguing with Lewis too, apparantly Alan Hansen has written an article about it in the telegraph defending Vinnie


Irani, is so biased his anti-City shite was causing Darren Lewis to come very close this morning to slap him down, they went to a break and still the Ragio show host would not let it go. WANKER.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Plain Speaking » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:45 am

Credit to Schmeichel and Hanson on MOTD2 for clearly stating it was a "hard but fair challenge" but I thought the BBC editorial camera crew on MOTD2 showed the incident 3 times from the same "most incriminating" camera angle.
They did not view the incident from other angles which made it clear VK took the ball cleanly with one foot and in control. I dont know who is responsible for MOTD2 video editing but this seemed on obvious and unfair ommision. Most of the general public will form their view of the incident from the BBC's free to air broadcasting and such lack of independence is disappointing for this major decision.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:52 am

Wishire is the new Scholes top of the ball and somehow he walks away after being the 100% cause of the incident. Like Scholes he pulls out at the last minute with a leap as he is also a coward when the odds are against him like scholes he walks away as a victim as he plays for England... Football is bent.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby freshie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:10 am

According to the daily mail (I know) the FA aren't going to ask Mike Dean to review the incident so it looks like the red card and 3 match suspension will stand. Further evidence, if any were needed, that the game is bent
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:11 am

Beefymcfc wrote:Listening to TalkSport and early on Irani states that it could've gone either way but now Lewis (journo) is on and defending the challenge as a good tackle Irani has just come out with the 'Potential Leg Breaker' line to further his case.


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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby s1ty m » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:15 am

freshie wrote:According to the daily mail (I know) the FA aren't going to ask Mike Dean to review the incident so it looks like the red card and 3 match suspension will stand. Further evidence, if any were needed, that the game is bent


It's never been in doubt, in my mind. In fact, anyone who thinks the game is not bent needs to have a long sit down think. PED's, match fixing, bungs, backhanders, bias, unfair application of simple rules, media, all of it. It's totally bent and probably has been since money became the main driver, as opposed the game itself.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby MR IMAINEROAD » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:35 am

freshie wrote:According to the daily mail (I know) the FA aren't going to ask Mike Dean to review the incident so it looks like the red card and 3 match suspension will stand. Further evidence, if any were needed, that the game is bent


YOu don't need evidence just read life of a secret footballer.

PS Just heard on TS that MUFC are only top club NOT to have received a red card this season!!!



Wow!!?? Who'd have thought?




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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Slim » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:47 am

I posted it on FB, but if they can find a reason for it to stand, it will.
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:50 am

MR IMAINEROAD wrote:
freshie wrote:According to the daily mail (I know) the FA aren't going to ask Mike Dean to review the incident so it looks like the red card and 3 match suspension will stand. Further evidence, if any were needed, that the game is bent


YOu don't need evidence just read life of a secret footballer.

PS Just heard on TS that MUFC are only top club NOT to have received a red card this season!!!



Wow!!?? Who'd have thought?


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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby dick dastardley » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:18 am

london blue 2 wrote:He could have been killed!
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maybe we need to send this to talkshite and see what those two fuckwits irani and brazil have to say!!!
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Re: Should we appeal the red card?

Postby Goaters 103 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:53 am

Yes we can appeal, but it doesnt have a cat in hells chance.

Playing devils advocate, as Kompany is clearly a very intelligent footballer and guy why did he feel the need to make that challenge, knowing the way the game and referees interpret it when you do go in like that? Yes he was focused on the ball, and no I dont think it was a red card but it gave the Ref an opportunity he was looking for to level things up. There was a 20 minute spell in the 2nd half where Dean was clearly influenced by the crowd and gave Arse every decision in sight, topping it off with the Red Card. After that, he settled down again and reffed the final 15 mins fairly again.

As soon as I saw the challenge my reaction was that Dean will give him a Red for that, whether its justified or not, but I cant see why Kompany felt the need to leave his feet there at all.
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