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Re: pelligrini

Postby maxxi » Sat May 11, 2013 11:12 am

So we've had guardiola (Rob 'done deal' Beasley), Mourinho, Ancelotti, Simeone, de Boer, Rodger and the latest one pelligrini...

Fuckin hell, it time for City to give these journos a kick up the arse and some banning orders.

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Re: pelligrini

Postby Risby » Sat May 11, 2013 12:19 pm

It's all bullshit.

The Sheik is calculated and knows consistency is what our club needs.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby freshie » Sat May 11, 2013 12:57 pm

Risby wrote:It's all bullshit.

The Sheik is calculated and knows consistency is what our club needs.


You're right about it being bullshit and here's why

From Guilleme Balague's blog

"The agreement with the current coach of Malaga was recently reached, after Txiki Begiristain received carte blanche from the owner of the English club, Sulaiman Al-Fahim, to close the deal with the Chilean coach."

Sulaiman Al-Fahim is our owner? Lazy and shit journalism. Do one Guilleme
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Re: pelligrini

Postby JonnyAsh » Sat May 11, 2013 2:44 pm

This will be all about a power struggle if anything...remember when Mancini joined, there was only Cook and Khaldoon, both non football men, Cook was mainly an administrator, and facilitator for Mancini. So Mancini was given carte blanche regarding training, transfers, team policy etc.

Now, the two Spaniards have been brought to oversea the structure and implement a template for how the whole club runs, including training, style of play and transfers. Mancini, who has been successful at doing things his way, suddenly feels he is strangled by club policies. He quite rightly, still wants control over certain aspects.

The two upstairs, have been brought to do a job, and they need their ideas to be implemented, but in Mancini, they have a manager who sees things a different way. It could be said that so far Txiki Begiristain and Soriano, so far haven't had their programmes tested because of Mancini.. this is not about results and success, but about power, and the club structure.

Pellegrini is seen as a facilitator for the two upstairs, someone who can put through, their ideas and implement their template..Why bring these two in, if they were going to be another Cook? Rightly or wrongly, this is my take...it's not about results and achievements so far, as Mancini has more or less delivered, but Mancini is not a man to compromise over his ways, and he will see his position greatly stifled.
I'm not agreeing with this, just a take. But to me it is a feasible opinion.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 3:17 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:This will be all about a power struggle if anything...remember when Mancini joined, there was only Cook and Khaldoon, both non football men, Cook was mainly an administrator, and facilitator for Mancini. So Mancini was given carte blanche regarding training, transfers, team policy etc.

Now, the two Spaniards have been brought to oversea the structure and implement a template for how the whole club runs, including training, style of play and transfers. Mancini, who has been successful at doing things his way, suddenly feels he is strangled by club policies. He quite rightly, still wants control over certain aspects.

The two upstairs, have been brought to do a job, and they need their ideas to be implemented, but in Mancini, they have a manager who sees things a different way. It could be said that so far Txiki Begiristain and Soriano, so far haven't had their programmes tested because of Mancini.. this is not about results and success, but about power, and the club structure.

Pellegrini is seen as a facilitator for the two upstairs, someone who can put through, their ideas and implement their template..Why bring these two in, if they were going to be another Cook? Rightly or wrongly, this is my take...it's not about results and achievements so far, as Mancini has more or less delivered, but Mancini is not a man to compromise over his ways, and he will see his position greatly stifled.
I'm not agreeing with this, just a take. But to me it is a feasible opinion.



Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sat May 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?


Really?

He spoke regularly last year. If anything this was the season for him to be talking about the club and progression surly especially after winning the title last year. Its been out into the football mens hands now and mancini isnt their guy.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sat May 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Lee_R wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?


Really?

I don't know hence the question mark. Why speak if you have got nothing to say?

Just seen a quote from Vieira which I feel is relevant: "Stability has a big part of a club's success." On here if you look: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22485085

You can choose to believe some bearded sub-mune Spanish waiter if you like though.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 3:44 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?


Really?

I don't know hence the question mark. Why speak if you have got nothing to say?

Just seen a quote from Vieira which I feel is relevant: "Stability has a big part of a club's success." On here if you look: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22485085

You can choose to believe some bearded sub-mune Spanish waiter if you like though.



I saw it on the tele. But Vieira probably knows very little anyway. I mean.. I hope Mancini stays.. but I've got a gut feeling theres more to it all.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Dameerto » Sat May 11, 2013 4:15 pm

Lee_R wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?


Really?

He spoke regularly last year. If anything this was the season for him to be talking about the club and progression surly especially after winning the title last year. Its been out into the football mens hands now and mancini isnt their guy.


He spoke regularly last year because we didn't have a CEO, the acting CEO seemed to be very much a hands on person rather than a media-whoring PR type so he needed to fill in where needed - this season he is letting the two new faces do their thing and seems to be avoiding stepping on their toes.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 4:26 pm

Dameerto wrote:
Lee_R wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Absolutely correct. Mancini was Khaldoons guy and Khaldoon has been surprisingly quiet this season.

Because there is nothing to say?


Really?

He spoke regularly last year. If anything this was the season for him to be talking about the club and progression surly especially after winning the title last year. Its been out into the football mens hands now and mancini isnt their guy.


He spoke regularly last year because we didn't have a CEO, the acting CEO seemed to be very much a hands on person rather than a media-whoring PR type so he needed to fill in where needed - this season he is letting the two new faces do their thing and seems to be avoiding stepping on their toes.


Fair enough.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby phips » Sat May 11, 2013 4:29 pm

maybe Txiki was meeting over Isco and Pelligrini is off to Chelsea as, supposedly, Abramovich doesnt want to pay the £17m release clause for Mourinho...


seeing as SAF is gone next season I wouldnt mind seeing Mancini at least given next season to see what he can do.
bringing in someone new AND new to the premier league when our main rival (both geographically and for top spot) will, more than likely, be weakened.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 5:46 pm

Yep. Good call.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby david yearsley » Sat May 11, 2013 7:19 pm

phips wrote:maybe Txiki was meeting over Isco and Pelligrini is off to Chelsea as, supposedly, Abramovich doesnt want to pay the £17m release clause for Mourinho...


seeing as SAF is gone next season I wouldnt mind seeing Mancini at least given next season to see what he can do.
bringing in someone new AND new to the premier league when our main rival (both geographically and for top spot) will, more than likely, be weakened.

Another year???????????????


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Re: pelligrini

Postby Invisible Man Fan » Sat May 11, 2013 7:44 pm

phips wrote:maybe Txiki was meeting over Isco and Pelligrini is off to Chelsea as, supposedly, Abramovich doesnt want to pay the £17m release clause for Mourinho...

seeing as SAF is gone next season I wouldnt mind seeing Mancini at least given next season to see what he can do.
bringing in someone new AND new to the premier league when our main rival (both geographically and for top spot) will, more than likely, be weakened.


Whether Baconface has gone or not isn't going to make Mancini a better manager. He has taken us as far as he can
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Spurge » Sat May 11, 2013 9:43 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:This will be all about a power struggle if anything...remember when Mancini joined, there was only Cook and Khaldoon, both non football men, Cook was mainly an administrator, and facilitator for Mancini. So Mancini was given carte blanche regarding training, transfers, team policy etc.

Now, the two Spaniards have been brought to oversea the structure and implement a template for how the whole club runs, including training, style of play and transfers. Mancini, who has been successful at doing things his way, suddenly feels he is strangled by club policies. He quite rightly, still wants control over certain aspects.

The two upstairs, have been brought to do a job, and they need their ideas to be implemented, but in Mancini, they have a manager who sees things a different way. It could be said that so far Txiki Begiristain and Soriano, so far haven't had their programmes tested because of Mancini.. this is not about results and success, but about power, and the club structure.

Pellegrini is seen as a facilitator for the two upstairs, someone who can put through, their ideas and implement their template..Why bring these two in, if they were going to be another Cook? Rightly or wrongly, this is my take...it's not about results and achievements so far, as Mancini has more or less delivered, but Mancini is not a man to compromise over his ways, and he will see his position greatly stifled.
I'm not agreeing with this, just a take. But to me it is a feasible opinion.


I think thats a fair assessment, shame that it gained momentum on today of all days - not useful to anyone connected with City
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Re: pelligrini

Postby phips » Sat May 11, 2013 10:22 pm

david yearsley wrote:
phips wrote:maybe Txiki was meeting over Isco and Pelligrini is off to Chelsea as, supposedly, Abramovich doesnt want to pay the £17m release clause for Mourinho...


seeing as SAF is gone next season I wouldnt mind seeing Mancini at least given next season to see what he can do.
bringing in someone new AND new to the premier league when our main rival (both geographically and for top spot) will, more than likely, be weakened.

Another year???????????????


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i have plenty of qualms when it comes to Mancini but let's not be hasty.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby phips » Sat May 11, 2013 10:23 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:This will be all about a power struggle if anything...remember when Mancini joined, there was only Cook and Khaldoon, both non football men, Cook was mainly an administrator, and facilitator for Mancini. So Mancini was given carte blanche regarding training, transfers, team policy etc.

Now, the two Spaniards have been brought to oversea the structure and implement a template for how the whole club runs, including training, style of play and transfers. Mancini, who has been successful at doing things his way, suddenly feels he is strangled by club policies. He quite rightly, still wants control over certain aspects.

The two upstairs, have been brought to do a job, and they need their ideas to be implemented, but in Mancini, they have a manager who sees things a different way. It could be said that so far Txiki Begiristain and Soriano, so far haven't had their programmes tested because of Mancini.. this is not about results and success, but about power, and the club structure.

Pellegrini is seen as a facilitator for the two upstairs, someone who can put through, their ideas and implement their template..Why bring these two in, if they were going to be another Cook? Rightly or wrongly, this is my take...it's not about results and achievements so far, as Mancini has more or less delivered, but Mancini is not a man to compromise over his ways, and he will see his position greatly stifled.

smart. nicely put. mancini's stubbornness is one of the big issues that i have with him.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby charvet_wonderland » Sat May 11, 2013 10:31 pm

I've always loved bob for his crazy interviews and general likeability, but it's just occurred to me that I can't remember a player speaking positively about him. They were all spunking over Martinez today and I can't remember bob ever getting the same treatment. Bellamy and Given got slagged off for questioning him but I don't remember anyone in the camp fighting his corner. Maybe he's schizophrenic.
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Re: pelligrini

Postby Lee_R » Sat May 11, 2013 10:37 pm

Im going to watch some Pellegrini videos and try to warm to him (because hes ugly)..

I dont care.. for me I hope its true as I'm conviced we need a change. Cant handle another season of the frustrations that Mancini has put me through this season.



Maybe I'll feel different next week or something but I'm too gutted right now.



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