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Re: pellegrini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 14, 2013 12:00 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
To some extent you are making a fair point about Mancini not willing to change. He really never was that sort of character. He was manager of old breed who wanted to be in charge of everything, especially the player signings. Felt about the owners and execs like Clough used to did.... they are there to sign the checks. These Barcelona lads are going to run completely different sort of set up and probably completely different sort fo manager (or rather head coach) was needed for the system to work.

I would just be happier if we were aiming for really top quality manager.

But, if he is to sign for us then I'll back him fo so.


I think it will be more of a group decision thing rather than just Tricky picking the players (although he will undoubtably bring some young players in) but I think that was how it was already supposed to work with Bob & according to reports, he was not playing ball at all. If we could get it off the ground & functioning, it could be that we could see a City team in 5 years time, with half a side of 'academy' * players (*or bogus ones like the rags sign from others) perhaps managed by someone promoted from within like Vieira, or even Guardiola brought in if he does it at Bayern.

I don't think it will work if we directly copy Spanish football though. We need to take the best attributes from there & add Premier League nous & vareity to it imo.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Sister of fu » Tue May 14, 2013 12:01 pm

sheblue wrote:can pellegrini speak english?



Fluent....


Does this mean RSC will finally get a chance at City??
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue May 14, 2013 12:14 pm

here's how he thinks

[youtube]1qDfThaxmTU[/youtube]

2 up top
adapt to your opponents
never vary your basics
do your work in the week
Guess we won't be seeing 3 at the back anytime soon
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 14, 2013 12:17 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:here's how he thinks

[youtube]1qDfThaxmTU[/youtube]

2 up top
adapt to your opponents
never vary your basics
do your work in the week
Guess we won't be seeing 3 at the back anytime soon


He wouldn't be a proper City manager unless he totally fucking bewildered us with an under the radar tactical disaster here & there, so I wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Stannaz1988 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:22 pm

In Spain, he is called "El Ingeniero" - The Engineer - a reminder of his degree qualification. It is also a tribute to the calm, composed and professorial way Manuel Pellegrini goes about his job every day of his life. And while many Manchester City fans feel Roberto Mancini's exit is harsh and unfair, the Eastlands club's owners believe they need an engineer to build a genuine winning machine. Pellegrini's non-denial denial about his move to Manchester is a smokescreen. The agreement is in place, everyone knows it. And it has developed a momentum which is now unstoppable. But the former Chile centre-back - 28 caps before hanging up his boots in 1986 - is ready to embrace a very different challenge from the ones he has faced before. This is the man, remember, who took Villarreal from nowhere to within touching distance of the Champions League Final. A man who discovered earning the record points total in Real Madrid history was not enough when pitted against Pep Guardiola's team of all the talents. And a man who nearly quit Malaga last October on a point of principle, when it turned out the promises he had made to his players - after being assured of their veracity by the club's owner - were simply hot air. Whatever the City players thought of Mancini, they will soon discover that the new man will be pushing them in ways they may not have been pushed before, and subject to an attention to detail that the City top-brass feel is required. New boy: Roberto Mancini is introduced as the Manchester City's new manager of at the City of Manchester Stadium Meet the boss: Roberto Mancini faces the press for the first time Mancini is unveiled as the new manager of Manchester City Wrapped up: Roberto Mancini endears himself to the City fans with his choice of scarf City slicker: Mancini salutes the City faithful as he takes charge of his first game as City boss You're Kidding me: Mancini celebrates his first win as City boss with assistant Brian Kidd after defeating Stoke City Mancini's first away game as City boss saw his charges take on Wolverhampton Wanderers at Molineux Stadium Hat's magic: Mancini braves the elements during an FA Cup 3rd Round clash against Middlesbrough A fiery Mancini gestures on the sidelines Happy days: Roberto Mancini is all smiles during a game against Blackburn Rovers The odd couple: Roberto Mancini unveils his new signing, Mario Balotelli Love/hate: One of Mancini's many clashes with badboy striker Mario Balotelli Mama Mia: Roberto Mancini laments a passage of play at home to Portsmouth Noisy neighbours: Roberto Mancini intervenes after Manchester City's victory over local rivals United in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley as Mario Balotelli and Anderson clash Roberto Mancini fields questions during a press conference Winners: Mancini celebrates after City beat Stoke 1-0 to win the FA Cup in 2011 Cheers boss: Manchester City's owner Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan congratulates Mancini as following City's FA Cup final win Trophy: Mancini hoists the FA Cup End of the drought: Roberto Mancini shows off the FA Cup, ending City's 42-year wait for a major trophy Best of friends: Mancini hands the FA Cup to his Argentine striker Carlos Tevez Lap of honour: Roberto Mancini shows off the FA Cup trophy Joking around: Mancini shares a joke with Manchester United Manager Sir Alex Ferguson Fighter: The Italian's temper boil over as Mancini tussels with Everton's David Moyes on the touchline An animated Mancini on the touchline as City do battle with local rivals United Under the lights: Roberto Mancini looks on in his trademark City scarf Ciao: Roberto Mancini waves to the City fans If looks could kill: Benched hitman Tevez gives Mancini the evils AGUEROOOO: Roberto Mancini celebrates THAT GOAL! from Aguero which seals the league title for Manchester City Title winner: Roberto Mancini holds the Premier League trophy Meet the parents: Roberto Mancini invites the family onto the pitch to celebrate City's title win 44 years of hurt: Roberto Mancini holds the Premier League trophy following City's first title success since 1968 City united: Mancini leads his team out to celebrate their title win at a parade at Manchester Town Hall We are the Champions: Skipper Vincent Kompany joins Mancini to show off the trophy Mancini plots his title defence ahead of a pre-season friendly between City and Al Hilal Back room boys: The Manchester City Management and staff celebrate their team's victory at the end of the FA Community Shield match between City and Chelsea at Villa Park Still got it: Mancini shows his touch hasn't deserted him as he deals with a wayward pass when City take on Everton Penny for your thoughts? Mancini plots his next move during the FA Cup final with Wigan Why does it always rain on me?: Mancini and his captain Vincent Kompany are left stunned by Wigan's late winner in the FA Cup final Second best: A dejected looking Mancini walks up to receive his runners up medal at Wembley Where now? Roberto Mancini left to ponder his future after City's FA Cup final defeat to Wigan Pellegrini's journey has taken him more than a quarter of a century to reach England by way of his homeland, then Ecuador, Argentina and Spain - each step of the way cultivating the players around him, fostering the strict demands he places upon them. It is that ethos which caught the eye of the men who matter at the Etihad now, Txiki Begiristan and Ferran Soriano. City's shapeless, listless, desperate display against Wigan in Saturday's FA Cup Final would only have confirmed them in the boldness of the decision, already taken, to replace Mancini. Begiristan and Soriano felt that Mancini's side were too insipid, dull, underwhelming. That they relied on the individual talents of the players to dig them out of scrapes under a manager lacking the inspiration they wanted. In Pellegrini, they have the antidote, the opposite. A micro-manager, who, while Real boss, wandered around his hotel in Madrid, notebook in hand, never stopping, his philosophy crystal clear. He always, invariably, without hesitation, wants a solid line of four, augmented by two holding midfielders, whose job is simple and effective, to create the platform for those in front, whether two plus two or three interchanging behind a lone spearhead. Pelligrini believes games are won before the kick-off whistle is blown. "I like the players to play the way they have trained all week," he recently explained. "What matters is that they take on the mentality of a big club and play in a way that responds to the opponent but with confidence in our own football. "You have to spend the majority of the time improving how we play and minimising errors. "Only 10 per cent of the time is about the opponent. Tactics is not just theory, but more about the intelligence you show on the pitch. We have to have the intelligence to search for the answers inside the game - which variations to choose." In simple terms: Listen to me and you will win. "In reality the coach is the most important person at the club during the week," he added. "In training, the coach is 95 per cent, the players the other five per cent. "Once the game starts, it is the other way round. The coach's influence is very limited. He can change things, make suggestions but his real influence is minimal. That is why the work has to be done in training." It promises to be a different City, in every sense. The key for Pelligrini is intelligent players, a sign that Carlos Tevez, Sergio Aguero and David Silva will be as instrumental for the new man as his predecessor. At Villarreal, he was given the opportunity to build a team in his own image. Even the stars of that team, such as Argentinians Juan Roman Riquelme (who missed the injury-time spot-kick against Arsenal in the 2006 semi-final) and Juan Pablo Sorin, Uruguayan Diego Forlan and Brazilian-born Spaniard Marcos Senna had to buckle under. Riquelme was dumped when he refused to do so. When Florentino Perez returned for a second spell at the Real helm in 2009, the Chilean was appointed. It was another "Galacticos" era, with £200m spent to land Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Karim Benzema and Xabi Alonso. But selecting two of former president Ramon Calderon's acquisitions, Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder, opened up a rift with Perez which festered. Finishing as La Liga runners-up to a European Cup-winning Barcelona side was declared a failure. His self-penned epitaph was graphic. "I didn't have a voice or a vote," he said. "It's no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don't have a pianist." Malaga, emboldened by a cash influx from Qatar, were going to be the new orchestra, only for the taps to be turned off overnight. Even so, and facing a UEFA ban for financial misconduct, two bizarre refereeing decisions in stoppage time prevented them eliminating Borussia Dortmund in this season's last eight. City's Arab owners are cut from a different cloth. Spaniards Begiristain and Soriano know what they want, attacking football and freedom on the ball but with tactical discipline, the likely signing of Isco, from Malaga, bringing the dressing room disciple every manager wants to have. Pellegrini, too, sees City as the platform he craves. He expects to win, to get the maximum out of the players that lost their focus under Mancini. To go everywhere and dominate the game. Civil engineers are good at construction. Now click here for more on Pellegrini by our La Liga expert David Cartlidge. Five things Pellegrini must do at City Entertainment The City powers that be lost faith in Mancini because they felt his football was tedious and formulaic. They want to be excited by a winning side that has belief in itself. Bravery Mancini's reign began to spiral out of control in Madrid last September. They went with a negative mind-set but led with minutes to go only to fall apart. Pellegrini knows he has to be the dominant force in matches. Being outplayed by Wigan is not acceptable. Maturity City were a side that regressed this season, with too few players willing to carry the burdens of expectation. That has to change, immediately and Pellegrini's imprint needs to be swift and sure, not only to get the fans onside. Europe Sheikh Mansour believes City should be a Champions League force, not an embarrassment. Mancini has never progressed beyond the last eight in the competition. Pellegrini will be expected to challenge Europe's elite. Trophies The Abu Dhabi owners have invested more than £1billion on and off the pitch. They expect a team to deliver a regular and consistent return for "The Project". With United and Chelsea also changing managers, excuses will be thin on the ground.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 14, 2013 12:24 pm

Jesus.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 12:24 pm

^ Christ, are you missing enter in your keyboard?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: pellegrini

Postby Swales4ever » Tue May 14, 2013 12:28 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:here's how he thinks

[youtube]1qDfThaxmTU[/youtube]

2 up top
adapt to your opponents
never vary your basics
do your work in the week
Guess we won't be seeing 3 at the back anytime soon


He wouldn't be a proper City manager unless he totally fucking bewildered us with an under the radar tactical disaster here & there, so I wouldn't bet on it.

I am glad You are finally back, Teddy mate.
Now the clueless who wrapped down the banner at the swamp has finally benn put where he belongs, so happy days to come.

I must pay my dues with You pal: You were bang on the money re the Spaniards and I owe apologies for slating You over what has been proven an intelligent overlooking.

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"
5. ignore the cunt. he's on permantent wum mission. only TIDs may know City

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Goataldo » Tue May 14, 2013 12:28 pm

Biggest paragraph I've ever choked on.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Mase » Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Original Dub wrote:Fuck it, just get Jose and let's win more trophies.


I hope so.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Swales4ever » Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:^ Christ, are you missing enter in your keyboard?

remember You're a cool parent, now.... :-)

1. "unintelligible language"
2. "ACID QUEEN"
3. "never once fails to turn a football thread into a himseelf thread"
4. "thumbs stalker often resulting in repetitive thumb strain"
5. ignore the cunt. he's on permantent wum mission. only TIDs may know City

You'd need to make a very good psychiatrist in order to guess what next in a eight yrs long line of hatred...


In Roger Ailes/Donnie Drumpf's words: "don't know it for a fact, but many people say so..."
there must be some truth, then!
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Stannaz1988 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:30 pm

Sorry about the length ......... :-)
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Goataldo » Tue May 14, 2013 12:32 pm

DUnno if this from Talkshite has been posted yet, apologies if so - it looks rather long but at least there's daylight in between the points...:

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/fea ... ini-195863

Against a backdrop of turmoil and uncertainty, Manuel Pellegrini has led Malaga to improbable success this season, with the club narrowly missing out on a place in the Champions League semi-finals and still on course to finish in a European place in La Liga.

That is all likely to change in the summer, however, with the Andalucian side facing a heavy European ban that will prevent them from playing in any continental competitions for a minimum of one season.

As a result, it looks inevitable that their highly coveted coach will move on and the front runners appear to be Manchester City. Pellegrini is still a relatively unknown commodity in the UK, so with that in mind, here are ten things Manchester City supporters should know about the man dubbed 'the Engineer'...

1) In his playing days Pellegrini was a genuine one-club man, spending his entire career playing as a defender for Universidad de Chile between 1973 and 1986. His debut coincided with the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, which would last the duration of his playing days and beyond. Curiously, Pellegrini took the decision to retire from football on a seemingly spur of the moment basis, after an error of his led to a simple goal being scored by a young Ivan Zamorano, who would later go on to win major trophies with Real Madrid and Inter Milan.

2) After ending his playing days, the Chilean juggled the process of learning to be a coach with studying a degree in Civil Engineering. Like Arsene Wenger's 'Professor' nickname, Pellegrini's academic success led to him being dubbed 'the Engineer'. It is a fitting title given the style of football he favours, with Pellegrini's teams relying on constant movement and slick passing combined with strong organisation at the back. He cites Arrigo Sacchi and Rinus Michels as his greatest influences, and speaks good English.

3) When asked to define his style as a coach during his Villarreal days, Pellegrini revealed the following:

“My teams always treat the ball as the priority, with plenty of mobility, blending South American football with European. My philosophy is based on having players with a good technical ability. Efficient and creative. My teams think more about building than destroying, and I don't like those who prioritise destruction through constant man-marking and fouling. It bores me, I'd never go to see that kind of football.”

4) Pellegrini has shown a knack for producing the best out of some of the finest attackers in the world. At Villarreal, both Juan Roman Riquelme and Diego Forlan achieved notable seasons under his tutorship, with the former leading the Yellow Submarine to an unlikely Champions League semi-final appearance in 2006. Diego Forlan, meanwhile, won the 2004/05 Pichichi award as Spain's top scorer, as well as the European Golden Boot under the Engineer. When Pellegrini was at Real Madrid, Cristiano Ronaldo and Gonzalo Higuain scored 53 league goals between them, making them the highest scoring La Liga duo ever at the time.


5) Sir Alex Ferguson, in his new role as a board member of Manchester United, may not be particularly keen to see the Engineer in England, as Pellegrini's Villarreal proved to be something of a bogey team for the Red Devils. In their debut season in the Champions League, the Yellow submarine helped to eliminate United from the group stage of the 2005/06 competition with two 0-0 draws against the English giants. The Spanish team topped the group, which also featured Benfica and Lille, while Fergie's team finished last. In 2008/09, the two sides again met in the group stage, and both games were played out with the exact same outcome of two 0-0 draws.

6) Pellegrini is one of the few managers to split Barcelona and Real Madrid in recent years. His Villarreal team put together a string of six wins in a row at the end of the 2007/08 La Liga season to leapfrog Frank Rijkaard's struggling Barcelona. The Yellow Submarine finished second, behind Real Madrid, with Barcelona in third. It was the final nail in Rijkaard's coffin in Catalonia, and he was replaced by Pep Guardiola the following season.

7) The coach finally had his shot at the big time with Real Madrid, who he joined in the summer of 2009. Though Madrid spent a fortune that summer in bringing in Xabi Alonso, Kaka and Cristiano Ronaldo to name a few, Pellegrini's authority was undermined within weeks, with the club selling Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben against his will. "They signed the best players, but not the best players needed in a certain position. It's no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don't have a pianist", he later commented. “Real Madrid have the best guitarists, but if I ask them to play the piano they won't do so well”. Notably, both Robben and Sneijder went on to play major roles in leading Bayern Munich and Inter Milan respectively to the Champions League final in 2010.

8) After only a few months in charge at Madrid, Spanish sports daily Marca began a campaign against Pellegrini, and it is widely believed that president Florentino Perez played some part in the affair in order to path the way for Jose Mourinho's arrival at the Bernabeu. Despite problems off the field, Pellegrini's Madrid were a deadly attacking side, and the 96 points they chalked up in La Liga would have been a new record in Spain, were it not for Pep Guardiola's Barcelona, who achieved a phenomenal 99. "I'm a big admirer of Pellegrini, he's an extraordinary coach," Guardiola later commented, "His Real Madrid team deserved to be league champions."

9) The Chilean's time at Malaga has been equally turbulent, but again he has managed to produce the best from his players in a challenging environment. After finishing fourth in La Liga during his first full season in charge at La Rosaleda, the club looked set to begin the process of strengthening ahead of their debut Champions League campaign. Instead, they soon found their most important player, Santi Cazorla, being sold to Arsenal for €20m in order to pay off debts incurred by their absentee owner. Pellegrini managed to steer the crisis-hit club into steadier waters, however, dissuading senior players like Jeremy Toulalan and Martin Demichelis from leaving, and keeping the core of the team together. Subsequently, he guided the club to within minutes of a place in the Champions League semi-final, after already becoming the only coach to take two different teams to the Champions League quarter-finals in their debut seasons in the competition.

10) Wherever Pellegrini ends up, his new employers stand a good chance of landing exciting Malaga starlet Isco, and City are prepared to spend big to land the attacker.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Stannaz1988 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:34 pm

Well done for splitting up the points, ill learn from my mistakes boss
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:39 pm

If it turns out that we end up with Pelligrini, how much of an under the radar appointment will it then be? Isn't this what we as City fans want, deep down inside? That is, for the owners not to go for the obvious choice (jose) but instead think about it a bit, do the research and pick someone perhaps not up and coming but at least not so highly esteemed and high profile.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Goataldo » Tue May 14, 2013 12:42 pm

Stannaz1988 wrote:Well done for splitting up the points, ill learn from my mistakes boss


Haha, have an early lunch.

And for the record, they were already split, I just removed what I could spot of video links that wouldn't paste etc, cleaned it up a bit.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 12:42 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:If it turns out that we end up with Pelligrini, how much of an under the radar appointment will it then be? Isn't this what we as City fans want, deep down inside? That is, for the owners not to go for the obvious choice (jose) but instead think about it a bit, do the research and pick someone perhaps not up and coming but at least not so highly esteemed and high profile.


I personally want someone who has won stuff. Because THAT is what is expected of this guy. None of that crap about building team for the future. That's job for Barcelona Boys (with Marwood giving them blow jobs under the desk). Pellegrini doesn't have experience of winning shit. He has experience of doing little bit better than expectations with unfancied sides. We are NOT unfancied side.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue May 14, 2013 12:43 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:^ Christ, are you missing enter in your keyboard?


Or as i suspect its a copy and paste.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 14, 2013 12:51 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:If it turns out that we end up with Pelligrini, how much of an under the radar appointment will it then be? Isn't this what we as City fans want, deep down inside? That is, for the owners not to go for the obvious choice (jose) but instead think about it a bit, do the research and pick someone perhaps not up and coming but at least not so highly esteemed and high profile.


I personally want someone who has won stuff. Because THAT is what is expected of this guy. None of that crap about building team for the future. That's job for Barcelona Boys (with Marwood giving them blow jobs under the desk). Pellegrini doesn't have experience of winning shit. He has experience of doing little bit better than expectations with unfancied sides. We are NOT unfancied side.


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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 12:53 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:If it turns out that we end up with Pelligrini, how much of an under the radar appointment will it then be? Isn't this what we as City fans want, deep down inside? That is, for the owners not to go for the obvious choice (jose) but instead think about it a bit, do the research and pick someone perhaps not up and coming but at least not so highly esteemed and high profile.


I personally want someone who has won stuff. Because THAT is what is expected of this guy. None of that crap about building team for the future. That's job for Barcelona Boys (with Marwood giving them blow jobs under the desk). Pellegrini doesn't have experience of winning shit. He has experience of doing little bit better than expectations with unfancied sides. We are NOT unfancied side.


Moyes is doomed then.


I fucking hope so. AND isn't that what everyone was banging about when he was appointed by rags. Guy who has constanly done better than expected with lesser side with now winning pedigree. Everyone and their dog told me that's "tick-tock" and recipe for disaster. Now we are about to appoint some guy with same sort of history yet now he is going to be mega.
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