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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri May 31, 2013 12:38 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:This is extremely juvenile. I was right na na na na na.

Just as a matter of interest Piccs and Spartacus, how long ago did you decide that Mancini wasn't up to it?


I had great hopes early on. Became suspicious of his footballing philosophy after months, decided he was negative by default after the Arsenal debacle playing for a useless nil nil thought maybe I'd been wrong as we played flowing football in the first half of the title winning season, but have felt pretty sure my earlier impressions were right ever since. Pick the bones outta that.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri May 31, 2013 12:40 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Nope, perfect vision apart from a touch of colour blindness.

Still can't see where you answered how long ago it was that you decided Mancini wasn't up to it.


Which bit if the first paragraph of my post did you not understand.

The bit where I told you i'd gone over it many times, to search for it, or that I'm not spamming another thread with Mancini rubbish?

Because I thought I'd been fairly clear that you can search for the answer yourself.


I understood it all mate but I didn't ask you when you discussed it on here. I also don't want a debate on the rights or wrongs. I was just curious as to when you came to the conclusion that he wasn't up to it but if you don't want to answer that's fine.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri May 31, 2013 12:47 pm

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:This is extremely juvenile. I was right na na na na na.

Just as a matter of interest Piccs and Spartacus, how long ago did you decide that Mancini wasn't up to it?


I had great hopes early on. Became suspicious of his footballing philosophy after months, decided he was negative by default after the Arsenal debacle playing for a useless nil nil thought maybe I'd been wrong as we played flowing football in the first half of the title winning season, but have felt pretty sure my earlier impressions were right ever since. Pick the bones outta that.


Thanks Piccs, see Spartacus it's that simple.

You've been waiting for this moment to declare yourself right for some time then, good for you.
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Re: Soriano

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri May 31, 2013 12:48 pm

Thank fuck we have Soriano on board - great times ahead with that mindset managing the project.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri May 31, 2013 12:52 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Both piccs and I have explained many times why we felt the way we have, if you want to search for it. I'm not going to type it all again and spam onto another thread if you missed it, and i'm not going to get into a debate about the rights and wrongs of Mancini on this thread either.

My post has fuck all to do with that anyway mate, John has form for spitting his dummy out over people who have a different view to his own, and so to try and save face when he's found to be wrong, he attacks those who disagree with him, as he has done on virtually every post directed at piccs in the last 6 months. He did it over Hughes, when I called him out as trying to be an intellectual bully with his condescending attitude to another poster, he's done it over Mancini, and he's also doing the same with cuntish posts talking down to people who disagree with him over Soriano and Tricky.

Most people laugh it off a 'good old John' - and to be honest I don't think he does it intentionally, but some of the posts recently have been nasty, personal and uncalled for, and its repeating a pattern that happened when Hughes was sacked, a pattern I find particularly unpleasant.

But back on topic, if the new manager shows the same inability to learn from their mistakes, and repeats them again and again and again, I'll take the same view. If he makes mistakes and we get twatted 5.0, but shows he's learned from that, good on him. If he doesn't learn from them, are we not just stuck with the same sort of stubborn ass we have just parted company with - in which case why the fuck would we want to keep him?

I'm just glad that the club have seen that appointing a new manager shouldn't involve throwing the baby out with the bath water, and that the approach is that the club will have stability whoever the head coach happens to be at the time, allowing us to be very flexible with appointment of managers/head coaches, and build a squad that ANY manager who employs a similar football philosophy to the club, should have a decent chance of success.

If they don't, move on to the next one with a minimum of disruption - because as we have seen with Mancini, bringing success to the club doesn't necessarily prove you have all the tools to do the job, and the time eventually will come for you to move on - and its about that transition being as simple as possible in the future, not just for stability, but for FFP and the endless turnover of players that changing managers generally brings with it.


I consider John a friend so won't believe he has malice in his heart when he writes. I have to say though, I find it slightly annoying that it's suggested that I love us to sack managers and was keen for Hughes to go. I don't and I wasn't. I'm usually a 'pro stability' man. ButI fully respect his opinions, and he knows that, just in this case I din't quite get why he has such a bee in his bonnet.
The whole Spafia criticism seems strange and uncalled for, I get the feeling it is an excuse by those who are upset at Bob's sacking. I don't understand those who say it was handled badly. These things invariably are a bit ugly, and I'm not sure what people wanted us to say regarding rumours of the change of manager.
Anyway. I ferently hope that it's onwards and upwards with Hells Pells and we get the kind of football that will have people saying "wow, this is more like it". We'll see.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri May 31, 2013 12:59 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Thanks Piccs, see Spartacus it's that simple.

You've been waiting for this moment to declare yourself right for some time then, good for you.


As Sparta says, all this is on record, through countless posts and I'm not sure how it helps, but there yer go.
It's not that I want to declare being right but I'm delighted to finally have rid of a manager who I felt held us back, stopped us being what we could be and wasted great resources.
Most importantly, I hope that we have got the right man in to deliver success in a thrilling way. It's not really about being right or wrong.

But I was right ;-)
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Re: Soriano

Postby john68 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:36 pm

Piccs,
I shall leave Spartacus to answer for me.

He knows what I am thinking,
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Re: Soriano

Postby City64 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:35 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:This is extremely juvenile. I was right na na na na na.

Just as a matter of interest Piccs and Spartacus, how long ago did you decide that Mancini wasn't up to it?


Both piccs and I have explained many times why we felt the way we have, if you want to search for it. I'm not going to type it all again and spam onto another thread if you missed it, and i'm not going to get into a debate about the rights and wrongs of Mancini on this thread either.

My post has fuck all to do with that anyway mate, John has form for spitting his dummy out over people who have a different view to his own, and so to try and save face when he's found to be wrong, he attacks those who disagree with him, as he has done on virtually every post directed at piccs in the last 6 months. He did it over Hughes, when I called him out as trying to be an intellectual bully with his condescending attitude to another poster, he's done it over Mancini, and he's also doing the same with cuntish posts talking down to people who disagree with him over Soriano and Tricky.

Most people laugh it off a 'good old John' - and to be honest I don't think he does it intentionally, but some of the posts recently have been nasty, personal and uncalled for, and its repeating a pattern that happened when Hughes was sacked, a pattern I find particularly unpleasant.

But back on topic, if the new manager shows the same inability to learn from their mistakes, and repeats them again and again and again, I'll take the same view. If he makes mistakes and we get twatted 5.0, but shows he's learned from that, good on him. If he doesn't learn from them, are we not just stuck with the same sort of stubborn ass we have just parted company with - in which case why the fuck would we want to keep him?

I'm just glad that the club have seen that appointing a new manager shouldn't involve throwing the baby out with the bath water, and that the approach is that the club will have stability whoever the head coach happens to be at the time, allowing us to be very flexible with appointment of managers/head coaches, and build a squad that ANY manager who employs a similar football philosophy to the club, should have a decent chance of success.

If they don't, move on to the next one with a minimum of disruption - because as we have seen with Mancini, bringing success to the club doesn't necessarily prove you have all the tools to do the job, and the time eventually will come for you to move on - and its about that transition being as simple as possible in the future, not just for stability, but for FFP and the endless turnover of players that changing managers generally brings with it.


What a load of long winded bullshit ! Grow up !
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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri May 31, 2013 3:42 pm

City64 wrote:
What a load of long winded bullshit ! Grow up !


Thats a perfecrly reasonable and well argued point. Dismissing it so casually is the bull shit.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri May 31, 2013 3:44 pm

john68 wrote:Piccs,
I shall leave Spartacus to answer for me.

He knows what I am thinking,


Oooh yer bitch :-)
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Re: Soriano

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:49 pm

City64 wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:This is extremely juvenile. I was right na na na na na.

Just as a matter of interest Piccs and Spartacus, how long ago did you decide that Mancini wasn't up to it?


Both piccs and I have explained many times why we felt the way we have, if you want to search for it. I'm not going to type it all again and spam onto another thread if you missed it, and i'm not going to get into a debate about the rights and wrongs of Mancini on this thread either.

My post has fuck all to do with that anyway mate, John has form for spitting his dummy out over people who have a different view to his own, and so to try and save face when he's found to be wrong, he attacks those who disagree with him, as he has done on virtually every post directed at piccs in the last 6 months. He did it over Hughes, when I called him out as trying to be an intellectual bully with his condescending attitude to another poster, he's done it over Mancini, and he's also doing the same with cuntish posts talking down to people who disagree with him over Soriano and Tricky.

Most people laugh it off a 'good old John' - and to be honest I don't think he does it intentionally, but some of the posts recently have been nasty, personal and uncalled for, and its repeating a pattern that happened when Hughes was sacked, a pattern I find particularly unpleasant.

But back on topic, if the new manager shows the same inability to learn from their mistakes, and repeats them again and again and again, I'll take the same view. If he makes mistakes and we get twatted 5.0, but shows he's learned from that, good on him. If he doesn't learn from them, are we not just stuck with the same sort of stubborn ass we have just parted company with - in which case why the fuck would we want to keep him?

I'm just glad that the club have seen that appointing a new manager shouldn't involve throwing the baby out with the bath water, and that the approach is that the club will have stability whoever the head coach happens to be at the time, allowing us to be very flexible with appointment of managers/head coaches, and build a squad that ANY manager who employs a similar football philosophy to the club, should have a decent chance of success.

If they don't, move on to the next one with a minimum of disruption - because as we have seen with Mancini, bringing success to the club doesn't necessarily prove you have all the tools to do the job, and the time eventually will come for you to move on - and its about that transition being as simple as possible in the future, not just for stability, but for FFP and the endless turnover of players that changing managers generally brings with it.


What a load of long winded bullshit ! Grow up !


One might not always agree with Sparty but at least he always make sure to state his argument and seldom loses his temper. What does that comment of yours bring to the discussion? And who do you think you are to have the right to dismiss his point of view just like that? You certainly haven't done anything on this forum to warrant your ignorant audacity.

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Re: Soriano

Postby City64 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:54 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
City64 wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:This is extremely juvenile. I was right na na na na na.

Just as a matter of interest Piccs and Spartacus, how long ago did you decide that Mancini wasn't up to it?


Both piccs and I have explained many times why we felt the way we have, if you want to search for it. I'm not going to type it all again and spam onto another thread if you missed it, and i'm not going to get into a debate about the rights and wrongs of Mancini on this thread either.

My post has fuck all to do with that anyway mate, John has form for spitting his dummy out over people who have a different view to his own, and so to try and save face when he's found to be wrong, he attacks those who disagree with him, as he has done on virtually every post directed at piccs in the last 6 months. He did it over Hughes, when I called him out as trying to be an intellectual bully with his condescending attitude to another poster, he's done it over Mancini, and he's also doing the same with cuntish posts talking down to people who disagree with him over Soriano and Tricky.

Most people laugh it off a 'good old John' - and to be honest I don't think he does it intentionally, but some of the posts recently have been nasty, personal and uncalled for, and its repeating a pattern that happened when Hughes was sacked, a pattern I find particularly unpleasant.

But back on topic, if the new manager shows the same inability to learn from their mistakes, and repeats them again and again and again, I'll take the same view. If he makes mistakes and we get twatted 5.0, but shows he's learned from that, good on him. If he doesn't learn from them, are we not just stuck with the same sort of stubborn ass we have just parted company with - in which case why the fuck would we want to keep him?

I'm just glad that the club have seen that appointing a new manager shouldn't involve throwing the baby out with the bath water, and that the approach is that the club will have stability whoever the head coach happens to be at the time, allowing us to be very flexible with appointment of managers/head coaches, and build a squad that ANY manager who employs a similar football philosophy to the club, should have a decent chance of success.

If they don't, move on to the next one with a minimum of disruption - because as we have seen with Mancini, bringing success to the club doesn't necessarily prove you have all the tools to do the job, and the time eventually will come for you to move on - and its about that transition being as simple as possible in the future, not just for stability, but for FFP and the endless turnover of players that changing managers generally brings with it.


What a load of long winded bullshit ! Grow up !


One might not always agree with Sparty but at least he always make sure to state his argument and seldom loses his temper. What does that comment of yours bring to the discussion? And who do you think you are to have the right to dismiss his point of view just like that? You certainly haven't done anything on this forum to warrant your ignorant audacity.

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Eh ?

What does audacity mean ?

and was Mancini audacious when we won the title for the first time in 40 odd years ?
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Re: Soriano

Postby Swales4ever » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:25 am

Dear Wooders,

given Your talent at assessing contributions, please take note that I have not resigned, nor quitted by any means and I'll be around well over Your graciously given timeline of january.

Upon thoughtful consideration I just realized what a very democratic board this is, always keen to give a balanced room of audience to every moron's opinion.
I see that now it's time to give audience to the dozen of rats which have patiently awaited for 4 years to get out the plughole and have their jubilant moment to say:
"I was right, I told You so, it was just a matter of time since the Owner would have had acknowledge my very sensed opinion on what a damage Mancini was doing to the Club."....

Almost to the contrary, among the countless weaknesses of an idiot like me - never interested to the Club's progress, as these now jubilant people were, when spending 4 years at spreading discontent and pleading disruption - there is a confrontational attitude toward idiocy and ignorance, let alone lies and hypocrisy.

That's why I better rarefy my attendance, till something more substantial than cheap talks will be at stake for debating, and hopefully some people on here will have realized that adults have better means of orgasm than waiting in the plughole till a power showdown takes place.

That's does not mean that I have left.
At least, not much than Soriano having cleared his path for milking the Sheikh's purse, doesn't mean that people desperate to have the best City Manager of the last 4 decades sacked and replaced with a yes man who gives no guarantees, were right.

Don't worry mate, I'll be around.
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Re: Soriano

Postby City64 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:04 am

Nice post Mancio / swales4ever.

I think most now realise who the smarmy brigade are on here now gloating in there own gloriousness while the club goes through a very difficult period . Its rather pathetic but thats life ....... everyone to there own i suppose.

Once Pellegrini is installed i for one will stop posting on here untill next season is upon us mate ....... the last few weeks have been very trying on here , bordering on madness.

The bollox threads are always worth a gander though ! ;-)
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Re: Soriano

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Re: Soriano

Postby Wooders » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:24 pm

Gone! Barely june let alone january - lol

This isnt my first rodeo mancio - ive been posting on here over a decade so have seen many iterations of you come and go - so dont be offended if i'm unsurprised by your post
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Re: Soriano

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:08 pm

Swales4ever wrote:Dear Wooders,

given Your talent at assessing contributions, please take note that I have not resigned, nor quitted by any means and I'll be around well over Your graciously given timeline of january.

Upon thoughtful consideration I just realized what a very democratic board this is, always keen to give a balanced room of audience to every moron's opinion.
I see that now it's time to give audience to the dozen of rats which have patiently awaited for 4 years to get out the plughole and have their jubilant moment to say:
"I was right, I told You so, it was just a matter of time since the Owner would have had acknowledge my very sensed opinion on what a damage Mancini was doing to the Club."....

Almost to the contrary, among the countless weaknesses of an idiot like me - never interested to the Club's progress, as these now jubilant people were, when spending 4 years at spreading discontent and pleading disruption - there is a confrontational attitude toward idiocy and ignorance, let alone lies and hypocrisy.

That's why I better rarefy my attendance, till something more substantial than cheap talks will be at stake for debating, and hopefully some people on here will have realized that adults have better means of orgasm than waiting in the plughole till a power showdown takes place.

That's does not mean that I have left.
At least, not much than Soriano having cleared his path for milking the Sheikh's purse, doesn't mean that people desperate to have the best City Manager of the last 4 decades sacked and replaced with a yes man who gives no guarantees, were right.

Don't worry mate, I'll be around.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:37 pm

[QUOTE="City64"]Nice post Mancio / swales4ever.

I think most now realise who the smarmy brigade are on here now gloating in there own gloriousness while the club goes through a very difficult period . Its rather pathetic but thats life ....... everyone to there own i suppose.

Once Pellegrini is installed i for one will stop posting on here untill next season is upon us mate ....... the last few weeks have been very trying on here , bordering on madness.

The bollox threads are always worth a gander though ! ;-)


Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps those at are pleased with Mancini's dismissal are so because they believe it is to the clubs benefit?
Is it beyond your imagination that getting rid of Bob is not some sort of difficult period for City but a good move?
I doubt it very much. It truly was a pathetic post from you and says a lot about your mentality.
Oh and please don't go, you'll be missed dreadfully.
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Re: Soriano

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:30 pm

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
City64 wrote:Nice post Mancio / swales4ever.

I think most now realise who the smarmy brigade are on here now gloating in there own gloriousness while the club goes through a very difficult period . Its rather pathetic but thats life ....... everyone to there own i suppose.

Once Pellegrini is installed i for one will stop posting on here untill next season is upon us mate ....... the last few weeks have been very trying on here , bordering on madness.

The bollox threads are always worth a gander though ! ;-)


Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps those at are pleased with Mancini's dismissal are so because they believe it is to the clubs benefit?
Is it beyond your imagination that getting rid of Bob is not some sort of difficult period for City but a good move?
I doubt it very much. It truly was a pathetic post from you and says a lot about your mentality.
Oh and please don't go, you'll be missed dreadfully.


Pics - I feel the same way as you do for the most part and its fucking obvious who was and still is against the managers sacking and the appointment of Soriano and hs side kick , they can dress it up as much as they like but the negative tone is there for all to see.

As with anything , we can only go on what we have heard so far and maybe it will all end in tears , but I wouldnt put a penny on it going tits up.
I feel more positive now than I ever did do since the CL exit debacle - it feels great right now and Im fuckign excited as ever.
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Re: Soriano

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:56 pm

Well the signing of Neymar, will have his Messi antena in overdrive. IMHO that will give him a chance to get Messi to at least talk at some point.
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