Isco

[Patrick]

I know fuckall... But I think this deal was done months ago


Now, if you will excuse me I have a speaking engagement at the WI

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

6/5, we're still favourites@2/7 but they've come in from 11/4.

So do you think the bookies are leading the press or the press reports making the bookies more cautious?

[Herb]

6/5, we're still favourites@2/7 but they've come in from 11/4.

So do you think the bookies are leading the press or the press reports making the bookies more cautious?

The media drive the betting and the betting drives the odds - the bookies don't give a shit where he goes they just make sure that they take their rake whatever the outcome.
So just accept that the bookies odds reflect the betting and the betting reflects public opinion and that's driven by the media so the odds mean fuck all and you can take no comfort even if you're odds on.

[Slim]

6/5, we're still favourites@2/7 but they've come in from 11/4.

So do you think the bookies are leading the press or the press reports making the bookies more cautious?

I think the bookies are more reliable than the press.

Last season we were favourites to sign RVP for a while and in the space of a day and a half the rags went to favourites and they closed the book on him going to the swamp. If it stabilizes then it could be a response to a betting trend, if it doesn't, then he's gone.

[DoomMerchant]

The media drive the betting and the betting drives the odds - the bookies don't give a shit where he goes they just make sure that they take their rake whatever the outcome.
So just accept that the bookies odds reflect the betting and the betting reflects public opinion and that's driven by the media so the odds mean fuck all and you can take no comfort even if you're odds on.

Herbalicious. As usual.

[dazby]

Discussing the Isco, David Silva, and Jesus Navas axis at Manchester City

It seems that Isco has rejected the opportunity to join Real Madrid, and will soon become a Manchester City player. While that’s not terrific news for the other clubs in the Premier League, it would be a huge signing for the division as a whole.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that this is happening, and focus on what kind of impact Isco will have at the Etihad Stadium.

As discussed previously, Manuel Pellegrini favours the below formation, and will almost certainly set his attacking-midfield out as per the graphic.

I talk a lot on this side about the importance of attacking fluidity, and the value of having interchangeable players in advanced positions.

What City now have, heading into next season, are three players who can change positions at will, and who all carry an equal but varied threat to the opposition. Jesus Navas is far less comfortable in central areas than the other two, but he still has the attributes to create big issues for defenders in that part of the pitch – pace, great control, good final-ball.

By and large, defending in the Premier League is about stopping certain players whilst maintaining a shape – preventing the creative, ball-playing types from influencing a game, but without becoming vulnerable elsewhere. Last season, when a side faced Roberto Mancini’s Manchester City, their main priority would have been to prevent David Silva from becoming isolated with a single defender – hassle him, take away his space, and an opponent had a good chance of blunting City’s attacking progress.

Now though, how does a team match-up with a side who, realistically, have three players who need to be in double-coverage at all times? And, significantly, that’s without even factoring-in Sergio Aguero.

At this stage of the Summer, although admittedly with plenty of transfer movement still to come, there isn’t a side in the Premier League who have sufficient defensive strength to deal with that.

One of your more intelligent posts Carl. Well done.

[blues2win]

Rafael Hernandez claiming Isco prefers City but City not prepared to pay the 35 million euro release clause. Offering more like 25 to 30 and so are Real. Dangerous game if true. Isco might change his mind.

[ruralblue]

Discussing the Isco, David Silva, and Jesus Navas axis at Manchester City

It seems that Isco has rejected the opportunity to join Real Madrid, and will soon become a Manchester City player. While that’s not terrific news for the other clubs in the Premier League, it would be a huge signing for the division as a whole.

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that this is happening, and focus on what kind of impact Isco will have at the Etihad Stadium.

As discussed previously, Manuel Pellegrini favours the below formation, and will almost certainly set his attacking-midfield out as per the graphic.

I talk a lot on this side about the importance of attacking fluidity, and the value of having interchangeable players in advanced positions.

What City now have, heading into next season, are three players who can change positions at will, and who all carry an equal but varied threat to the opposition. Jesus Navas is far less comfortable in central areas than the other two, but he still has the attributes to create big issues for defenders in that part of the pitch – pace, great control, good final-ball.

By and large, defending in the Premier League is about stopping certain players whilst maintaining a shape – preventing the creative, ball-playing types from influencing a game, but without becoming vulnerable elsewhere. Last season, when a side faced Roberto Mancini’s Manchester City, their main priority would have been to prevent David Silva from becoming isolated with a single defender – hassle him, take away his space, and an opponent had a good chance of blunting City’s attacking progress.

Now though, how does a team match-up with a side who, realistically, have three players who need to be in double-coverage at all times? And, significantly, that’s without even factoring-in Sergio Aguero.

At this stage of the Summer, although admittedly with plenty of transfer movement still to come, there isn’t a side in the Premier League who have sufficient defensive strength to deal with that.

Just did a little sex wee!

[Herb]

The media drive the betting and the betting drives the odds - the bookies don't give a shit where he goes they just make sure that they take their rake whatever the outcome.
So just accept that the bookies odds reflect the betting and the betting reflects public opinion and that's driven by the media so the odds mean fuck all and you can take no comfort even if you're odds on.

Herbalicious. As usual.

And there I was thinking that you'd be grateful for some prose that sat sweet with your favoured negative slant.



Huh. . . No pleasing some people!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

And there I was thinking that you'd be grateful for some prose that sat sweet with your favoured negative slant.

Huh. . . No pleasing some people!

Often the bookies get wind of stuff, but I don't think they know anymore than us at the mo.

[DoomMerchant]

Often the bookies get wind of stuff, but I don't think they know anymore than us at the mo.

They are just hedging and managing a portfolio. Actuarial work. You'll lose more than you win. Duh.

[JonnyAsh]

Can somebody wake me after the transfer window closes, and I will just see who we got?
All this stuff is just one big stress!!

[Saul Goodman]

Holy shit. Twitter is ablaze with news saying Isco signed for RM for 30m euros. I know it's twitter but I'm bummed

[maxxi]

Nothing new, goal still running the 'City close in on Isco deal' story

now days I trust more goal than the rags of Spain Marca.


Isco is ours ;-)

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[Blue Blood]

Holy shit. Twitter is ablaze with news saying Isco signed for RM for 30m euros. I know it's twitter but I'm bummed

It's all come from the spanish tabloids as per usual mate, nothing to be too worried about... yet.

[patrickblue]

I know fuckall... But I think this deal was done months ago


Now, if you will excuse me I have a speaking engagement at the WI

I'm the same as you, I think it was tied up months back. Mot so sure now, just having looked at the betting.

[ant london]

I fancy that we are going to make a statement of intent and just get him whatever it costs....I am hopeful!

[OliverHardy]

Graham hunter saying some interesting things on twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/BumperGraham

But odds are concerning

[Slim]

Graham hunter saying some interesting things on twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/BumperGraham

But odds are concerning

The sharp drops to the odds were making me sad last night, makes me even more disturbed is the fact City still account for 55% of the total bets.

[Cocacolajojo1]

I still think the bets are a bad indicator at this point and in this particular case. Sure, wisdom of crowds and all that but the sources are pretty meagre and of pretty low quality.