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Re: Isco

Postby bigblue » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:38 pm

Hazy2 wrote:I think it is fair to say the player was outstanding for Malaga in Europe and in the domestic league, If you are as good as your last game,with his best 10 years to come.Our interest shows the club was heading for a very different style of play, maybe a more modern flexi No 10 style which Mnacini did not have. His decision is a blow, to a lot of aspects of what Berigistain is all about. Isco would have been the example all be it an imported example for the mega project of developinment being crucial. His playing Style will be the mantra for the teams under the 1st team. Berigistain is going to change us from top to bottom, he was that important. Madrid have added another player to a squad of mega rich under achievers, Some of our players will now hang around posibly for all the wrong reasons, Pelli's job is already more interesting and not as straight forward as it could have been if he got him. Any suggestion we have not lost out on getting him is just wrong. Players on the way out are gonna be hooked back I expect a delay in the march to DNA Change.


Your comment makes my head hurt so I will be brief. There will be many more "Iscos". There is only one Manchester City. Get on medication.
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Re: Isco

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:47 pm

This is game over now Madrid have confirmed Ancelotti as manager, I think they were always waiting to tie him up before announcing the Isco deal.

It's a shame we didn't go harder for him, him Silva and Navas would of ripped defences apart next season. The question now is where do we go from here? And why are we continually losing out on our top targets?

Last season a lot of people were blaming Marwood (myself included) but it looks like that's not the case.
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Re: Isco

Postby Original Dub » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:54 pm

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:This is game over now Madrid have confirmed Ancelotti as manager, I think they were always waiting to tie him up before announcing the Isco deal.

It's a shame we didn't go harder for him, him Silva and Navas would of ripped defences apart next season. The question now is where do we go from here? And why are we continually losing out on our top targets?

Last season a lot of people were blaming Marwood (myself included) but it looks like that's not the case.


Fernandino was our top target.
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Re: Isco

Postby Grandad Rosler » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:59 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Fernandino was our top target.


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Re: Isco

Postby OliverHardy » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:05 pm

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:This is game over now Madrid have confirmed Ancelotti as manager, I think they were always waiting to tie him up before announcing the Isco deal.

It's a shame we didn't go harder for him, him Silva and Navas would of ripped defences apart next season. The question now is where do we go from here? And why are we continually losing out on our top targets?

Last season a lot of people were blaming Marwood (myself included) but it looks like that's not the case.


We are at the big table now, you simply don't come up against bigger teams with pull potential than Real, to lose out to them is not a disaster. Young players like isco, especially Spanish ones grew up with Real as one of only 2 teams to play for. We always had, and will have, our work cut out battling them for players, its a fact of footballing life. Pretending that we are the worlds most sought after team to play for is delusional. Factors such as location and weather play a big part, but lack of appearances in the champs league, along with recent failures in the competition are the primary reasons AND even when we do win everything, we will still find it a match when battling them for signings. We tried, we might not have won, we move on and look for someone who will turn out better. And smile
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Re: Isco

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:10 pm

bigblue wrote:6 months ago 95% of you never even heard of Isco. Now all of a sudden he is the man that is the difference between 1st and 2nd place? Bullshit. While it would be nice to have him, it's not that bad if we don't.

Can't you see the trend that always happens? A new young starlet will get endlessly hyped up by the media for a few months and inevitably linked to City. Then people on here will be going on about how this man is the future of football and our success or failure is linked to his signing along.

There is no single silver bullet that will propel us to champs league glory. We already have the best squad in the league. And we already signed better than last summer. We just need who we have to play to their potential. So stop letting the media get inside your heads and set the agenda.


I agree with this a lot.
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Re: Isco

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:23 pm

bigblue wrote:6 months ago 95% of you never even heard of Isco. Now all of a sudden he is the man that is the difference between 1st and 2nd place? Bullshit. While it would be nice to have him, it's not that bad if we don't.

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Wonder who it was that the Sky commentator was talking about when he said about us signing the brightest young talent in Spanish football about 18 months ago?

And as for not that bad, I now have to watch the French coward play for us again and that's bad.
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Re: Isco

Postby City64 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:28 pm

Original Dub wrote:
City64 wrote:Have we put in an offer for Ozil yet ?


Very strange question. Would you not google it, no?


WTF does google know ?

WTF does anyone know ?

Just asking like , been far worse questions asked many times on this forum , fuck it i wont bother again .
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Re: Isco

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:02 pm

This thread would be boring were it not so funny. I picture a few of you sat there with newsnow up and repeatedly hammering F5 and quivering.

I'm sick of seeing/hearing the kid's name now. I hope he retires.
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Re: Isco

Postby Bleed_Blue » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:07 pm

City64 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
City64 wrote:Have we put in an offer for Ozil yet ?


Very strange question. Would you not google it, no?


WTF does google know ?

WTF does anyone know ?

Just asking like , been far worse questions asked many times on this forum , fuck it i wont bother again .


Seems like you been going mad mate &
LOL justifying yourself in pretty fucked up way too
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:12 pm

bigblue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:I think it is fair to say the player was outstanding for Malaga in Europe and in the domestic league, If you are as good as your last game,with his best 10 years to come.Our interest shows the club was heading for a very different style of play, maybe a more modern flexi No 10 style which Mnacini did not have. His decision is a blow, to a lot of aspects of what Berigistain is all about. Isco would have been the example all be it an imported example for the mega project of developinment being crucial. His playing Style will be the mantra for the teams under the 1st team. Berigistain is going to change us from top to bottom, he was that important. Madrid have added another player to a squad of mega rich under achievers, Some of our players will now hang around posibly for all the wrong reasons, Pelli's job is already more interesting and not as straight forward as it could have been if he got him. Any suggestion we have not lost out on getting him is just wrong. Players on the way out are gonna be hooked back I expect a delay in the march to DNA Change.


Your comment makes my head hurt so I will be brief. There will be many more "Iscos". There is only one Manchester City. Get on medication.


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Re: Isco

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:13 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:I think it is fair to say the player was outstanding for Malaga in Europe and in the domestic league, If you are as good as your last game,with his best 10 years to come.Our interest shows the club was heading for a very different style of play, maybe a more modern flexi No 10 style which Mnacini did not have. His decision is a blow, to a lot of aspects of what Berigistain is all about. Isco would have been the example all be it an imported example for the mega project of developinment being crucial. His playing Style will be the mantra for the teams under the 1st team. Berigistain is going to change us from top to bottom, he was that important. Madrid have added another player to a squad of mega rich under achievers, Some of our players will now hang around posibly for all the wrong reasons, Pelli's job is already more interesting and not as straight forward as it could have been if he got him. Any suggestion we have not lost out on getting him is just wrong. Players on the way out are gonna be hooked back I expect a delay in the march to DNA Change.


Your comment makes my head hurt so I will be brief. There will be many more "Iscos". There is only one Manchester City. Get on medication.


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Re: Isco

Postby Benjay » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:45 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
I agree with this a lot.


So do I. What about Denis Suarez? He came highly rated. Never given a chance. Could have the answer on our own doorstep. Like Silva they said...
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Re: Isco

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:10 pm

We will not compete with the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, even Scum and chelsea have a greater draw because of their recent achievements in europe. We need to do well in the prestige european competition to be in with a chance on reputation and that so called fucking history bollox. We need to wake up and realise that if we are going to get the biggest talents and go toe to toe with the big boys we either need to pay stupid money and keep ruining football to get our media status upgraded or build over time and stop whinging.
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Re: Isco

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:18 pm

Benjay wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
I agree with this a lot.


So do I. What about Denis Suarez? He came highly rated. Never given a chance. Could have the answer on our own doorstep. Like Silva they said...



suarez is destined for segunda division. being short, spanish and a midfielder doesn't always make you xavi.
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Re: Isco

Postby Benjay » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:23 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:
suarez is destined for segunda division. being short, spanish and a midfielder doesn't always make you xavi.


Well he's doing ok in the U20 tournament. Bit early to write him off...
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Re: Isco

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:25 pm

Wonderwall wrote:We will not compete with the likes of Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, even Scum and chelsea have a greater draw because of their recent achievements in europe. We need to do well in the prestige european competition to be in with a chance on reputation and that so called fucking history bollox. We need to wake up and realise that if we are going to get the biggest talents and go toe to toe with the big boys we either need to pay stupid money and keep ruining football to get our media status upgraded or build over time and stop whinging.


Add Monaco and Paris, my angle is one of being a selfish twat who understood it was a done deal, I will take all the stick in the world and spit ouy my dummy, this kid is gonna be world player of the year type, On a positive Johan C has advised Barca to sell Messi.
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Re: Isco

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm

Benjay wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:
suarez is destined for segunda division. being short, spanish and a midfielder doesn't always make you xavi.


Well he's doing ok in the U20 tournament. Bit early to write him off...


has he even played??

edit: just checked and it looks like he started against ghana, so fair dos.
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Re: Isco

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Add Monaco and Paris, my angle is one of being a selfish twat who understood it was a done deal, I will take all the stick in the world and spit ouy my dummy, this kid is gonna be world player of the year type, On a positive Johan C has advised Barca to sell Messi.


No not monaco or psg.... they are doing what we need to do to secure who we want by just saying a big fuck you and splashing out. If monaco or psg were in for isco and they tried to play it cute with Real Madrid and malaga. Madrid will win every time. Thats what I am saying.
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Re: Isco

Postby bigblue » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:30 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Name 1.


There are hundreds of players 21 years old who have the potential to develop into world class players. And in 6 months there will be 20 more on the radar who could be great in 2-3 years. And 6 months after that 20 more. And 6 months after that 20 more. And 6 months after that 20 more.

To think that Isco is the ONLY player at the age of 21 in the world who has the potential to be great is beyond dumb. Really, I cannot stress how stupid it is.

Players develop at different ages at different trajectories based on their bodies, coaches, environments, mental attitude, and much more. All of these factors are constantly changing and can result in a 18 year old wonder kid not developing or a 24 year old kid on the border being able to take the step up to the next level (for example Yaya to Barcelona). Trust that City pays millions for professional scouts around the world to constantly assess and report on the best prospects.

So I won't start to name players who I think could be better than the current media darling Isco from my desk in Washington, DC. Because I only know a fraction of one percent about the talent available. And you know even less.
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