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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Wooders » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:20 pm

Yeah mike?
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:23 pm

Wooders wrote:Yeah mike?

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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:25 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Wooders wrote:Yeah mike?

Now, that's what I enjoy.


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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:29 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Wooders wrote:Yeah mike?

Now, that's what I enjoy.


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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Blue Blood » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:06 am

PeterParker wrote:No fucking way, not Negredo. What the hell are we doing, we have only knobheads on our list. Lewandowski, now Negredo and we want to pay 25 mil? For that money we can get Higuain or even Benzema.


Tbh I don't think there is a massive difference between Negredo and Higuain. Age perhaps, but 27 isn't exactly past it (in fact I'd say the lad should be at the peak of the powers now).

People talking about the price look at the total of the deal, not just the sum up top.

Tevez was on 200+k per week, Negredo, his replacement, will at most be on half that. This is a big factor.

The 24 million euros transfer price being banded around (if true) also is likely going to be broken up with performance based triggers, so say 15 million euro up front, with the rest if we win the league, or something like that. Look at the Navas deal as an example, the media initially quoted that as £25 million up front and in the end was £15 with bonuses. Not bad.

So when you look at this deal in its entirety, and the players we currently have, imo it makes much more sense to bring in a proven 1 in 2 striker like Negredo to supplement our main strikers rather than break the bank getting Cavani.

Aguero
Dzeko
Negredo
Guidetti

More than happy with that front four with 3 out of the 4, proven 1 in 2 scorers. Spoilt for choice.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby jsbluemoon82 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:55 am

Blue Blood wrote:
Tbh I don't think there is a massive difference between Negredo and Higuain. Age perhaps, but 27 isn't exactly past it (in fact I'd say the lad should be at the peak of the powers now).

People talking about the price look at the total of the deal, not just the sum up top.

Tevez was on 200+k per week, Negredo, his replacement, will at most be on half that. This is a big factor.

The 24 million euros transfer price being banded around (if true) also is likely going to be broken up with performance based triggers, so say 15 million euro up front, with the rest if we win the league, or something like that. Look at the Navas deal as an example, the media initially quoted that as £25 million up front and in the end was £15 with bonuses. Not bad.

So when you look at this deal in its entirety, and the players we currently have, imo it makes much more sense to bring in a proven 1 in 2 striker like Negredo to supplement our main strikers rather than break the bank getting Cavani.

Aguero
Dzeko
Negredo
Guidetti

More than happy with that front four with 3 out of the 4, proven 1 in 2 scorers. Spoilt for choice.


Couldn't agree more. Aguerooooooooooo is definitely going to be our number one, and I think Dzeko would be battling with the likes of Negredo to be our second choice.

Negredo definitely knows where the back of the net is, that's for sure. I was excited by the thought of Cavani at the start, but it would've been total Fifa 14 buy really - not really needed, but we have the money so why not - kind of deal... makes far more sense what we're doing at the moment.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:27 am

This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.

If we are looking for just player not the age I don't see much between Higuain and Negredo. They are quite similar. Neither of them are truly top class but both pretty good poacher types.

Two things worry me however. The players we've signed this summer have all been born 1985 making them 28 this season. This sounds to me like we are looking for instant success. However none of these guys are world class. All of them are "pretty good" but touch behind best in the world. I'm not entirely convinced we were lacking quantity like that. Second, these were all "easy" transfers. Club looking to sell for the right price and player looking to leave should potential club be interested. Spaniards need to show they can compete with/for best in the world in transfers.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby leewonpen » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:09 am

My main problem is if we sign negredo is have we actually improved on last season. I dont think we have. But as seen as were unlikely to sign Carvarni who else is there. This means we drop on to the next rung of quality. Personally I would Higiuan.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:26 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.


So youre thinking:

Dzeko
Silva Aguero Navas
Yaya Fernandinho
Back 5

????
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:27 am

Also, I know alot of people like to shit on Spurs but if this seemingly imminent transfer of Paulinho to Tottenham occurs,
they could revert to AVB's preferred 4-3-3 with a really good midfield, on paper at least.

Bale- "striker"- Lennon
Sandro- Paulinho - Dembele
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:35 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.

If we are looking for just player not the age I don't see much between Higuain and Negredo. They are quite similar. Neither of them are truly top class but both pretty good poacher types.

Two things worry me however. The players we've signed this summer have all been born 1985 making them 28 this season. This sounds to me like we are looking for instant success. However none of these guys are world class. All of them are "pretty good" but touch behind best in the world. I'm not entirely convinced we were lacking quantity like that. Second, these were all "easy" transfers. Club looking to sell for the right price and player looking to leave should potential club be interested. Spaniards need to show they can compete with/for best in the world in transfers.


interesting point you make there re 1985 nqdp...

what year was wazza born?

i'm convinced he's coming to us...

auguero/guidetti/wazza
dzeko/negredo

i'd take that
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:06 am

Saul Goodman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.


So youre thinking:

Dzeko
Silva Aguero Navas
Yaya Fernandinho
Back 5

????


No

I'm thinking

-------------------Dzeko----
----------Aguero
--Silva------------------Navas--
------YaYa----Fernandinho----

Back 5

In fact I'm almost sure that will be the BASE formation unless Spafia really are meddling with tactics. Which I don't believe. We will see lot of different formations and line ups bu I believe that is the basis of it all. That is unless he has completely changed his philosophy since he has joined us.

NT: PLEASE tell me "Wazza" isn't who I think it is.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Nige » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:35 am

Guidetti is an unproven sick note. Negrado is not a patch on Tevez so we do need a world class striker.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby mr_nool » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:47 am

Paulinho to Spurs. This is funny!

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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:49 am

Nige wrote:Guidetti is an unproven sick note. Negrado is not a patch on Tevez so we do need a world class striker.


I agree. What's "Wazzmeister" got to do with it though?
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:02 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Nige wrote:Guidetti is an unproven sick note. Negrado is not a patch on Tevez so we do need a world class striker.


I agree. What's "Wazzmeister" got to do with it though?


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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:03 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Nige wrote:Guidetti is an unproven sick note. Negrado is not a patch on Tevez so we do need a world class striker.


I agree. What's "Wazzmeister" got to do with it though?


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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Slim » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:19 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.

If we are looking for just player not the age I don't see much between Higuain and Negredo. They are quite similar. Neither of them are truly top class but both pretty good poacher types.

Two things worry me however. The players we've signed this summer have all been born 1985 making them 28 this season. This sounds to me like we are looking for instant success. However none of these guys are world class. All of them are "pretty good" but touch behind best in the world. I'm not entirely convinced we were lacking quantity like that. Second, these were all "easy" transfers. Club looking to sell for the right price and player looking to leave should potential club be interested. Spaniards need to show they can compete with/for best in the world in transfers.


interesting point you make there re 1985 nqdp...

what year was wazza born?

i'm convinced he's coming to us...

auguero/guidetti/wazza
dzeko/negredo

i'd take that


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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:23 am

Slim wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:This is starting to make sense now. Clearly engineer is planning to use proper centerforward and have another striker playing off him and covering lot of ground. CF will be competition between Dzeko and Negredo and Guidetti will provide cover for Aguero in that other spot.

If we are looking for just player not the age I don't see much between Higuain and Negredo. They are quite similar. Neither of them are truly top class but both pretty good poacher types.

Two things worry me however. The players we've signed this summer have all been born 1985 making them 28 this season. This sounds to me like we are looking for instant success. However none of these guys are world class. All of them are "pretty good" but touch behind best in the world. I'm not entirely convinced we were lacking quantity like that. Second, these were all "easy" transfers. Club looking to sell for the right price and player looking to leave should potential club be interested. Spaniards need to show they can compete with/for best in the world in transfers.


interesting point you make there re 1985 nqdp...

what year was wazza born?

i'm convinced he's coming to us...

auguero/guidetti/wazza
dzeko/negredo

i'd take that


Are you fucking kidding me?

HIS NAME IS SHREK.

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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:44 am

Negredo is a fine player, I am not seeing any other top side after him though, He could end up at AM according to Marca the deal is close. For me go and get the best possible Centre forward we can, he is the main man and will cost, Negredo is ok, ok aint gonna win anything and is not replacing Balo or Tevez oe better than we already have.
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