Pellegrini Satisfometer

[PrezIke]

are the parts re: dzeko meant to be ironic??

Hah...well while dzeko is not exactly in great form, he has been handled better this time around, i think. Pellers put him in the first team in pre-season and was there until october, after the bayern game where i he was in the starting 11.

Last year his role was unclear, as he may have felt he wasnt given he games, and he sulked to the media about being a supersub. Tthis time he was given his chance. He first seemed to try to hard when coming in or in games he started as the backup, but with a 4-4-2 if he works hard in training and negreso's form drops maybe he gets back in the team. He also may be sold in january but he seems to have taken his benching better this time around. I like him still but maybe he isnt going to fit here. Dortmund seems ideal if he goes. Not interested in him going to a rival.

[Blue2]

Cant see myself even getting up to satisfied until the away form improves and becomes consistent. No point in sweeping all before us at home and losing to Cardiff, Sunderland etc away.

[Slim]

Two tactical errors that are repeated time and again and our away form, neither of which has been addressed by sticking 7 passed Norwich, 6 passed Spurs or 3 passed Swansea.

Anyone changing their vote based on our home form really needs to have their head examined, we're not in this for just premier league survival anymore.

[Im_Spartacus]

Two tactical errors that are repeated time and again and our away form, neither of which has been addressed by sticking 7 passed Norwich, 6 passed Spurs or 3 passed Swansea.

Anyone changing their vote based on our home form really needs to have their head examined, we're not in this for just premier league survival anymore.

* past

[Pretty Boy Lee]

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Damn beat me to it haha

[Slim]

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Damn beat me to it haha

You couldn't even get quoting right, and don't you have better things to do, something more pressing perhaps?

[Pretty Boy Lee]

[QUOTE="Slim"][/QUOTE]

Hahahahah. Par for the course for me.

Not sure what needs doing though, enlighten me.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The main difference between this year and last, is that we're attacking at pace.
None of this slow, tippy tappy backwards and sideways shit. It was highlighted on Match of the day, that when we attack, we storm forward, we have players busting a gut to get into the box and we're getting the ball into the box far more quickly and we're not allowing the opposition to get defenders back.
As PBL said, I wouldn't be too unhappy if we didn't win anything this season if we carry on playing football like this.
Really happy with Pellegrini atm.

[Beefymcfc]

The main difference between this year and last, is that we're attacking at pace.
Non of this slow, tippy tappy backwards and sideways shit. It was highlighted on Match of the day, that when we attack, we storm forward, we have players busting a gut to get into the box and we're getting the ball into the box far more quickly and we're not allowing the opposition to get defenders back.
As PBL said, I wouldn't be too unhappy if we didn't win anything this season if we carry on playing football like this.
Really happy with Pellegrini atm.

Out of interest, by not winning anything I'm guessing you'd be happy with us just playing well at home. If that's the case, and we carry on the away style, would you really be happy?

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Out of interest, by not winning anything I'm guessing you'd be happy with us just playing well at home. If that's the case, and we carry on the away style, would you really be happy?

He's quoting me and I did say as long as we put up a strong challenge.

That would need the away issue addressed to a point.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The main difference between this year and last, is that we're attacking at pace.
Non of this slow, tippy tappy backwards and sideways shit. It was highlighted on Match of the day, that when we attack, we storm forward, we have players busting a gut to get into the box and we're getting the ball into the box far more quickly and we're not allowing the opposition to get defenders back.
As PBL said, I wouldn't be too unhappy if we didn't win anything this season if we carry on playing football like this.
Really happy with Pellegrini atm.

Out of interest, by not winning anything I'm guessing you'd be happy with us just playing well at home. If that's the case, and we carry on the away style, would you really be happy?

No, but I have every confidence we'll start to perform away from home. It's mainly been individual fuck ups that have cost us so far.
I don't demand we win everything. We watch for the entertainment and as long as we play good, attacking football I'll be happy.
Last season, it wasn't finishing second that I was unhappy about. It was that I got virtually no enjoyment. The games were often dull and the players simply were not enjoying themselves. How great is it to see players like Nasri playing with a smile on his face? I get the feeling they really enjoy playing for Pellegrini and there's a togetherness about the squad which wasn't there last season.
I've never seen us play football this good, not even in the title winning season.
Sooner or later we'll crack it away from home. Of that I'm sure.

[Beefymcfc]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

[Im_Spartacus]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

I always believe that "bedding in" is a term used by pundits to protect their mates from criticism early in their tenure. Pellers would be a perfect case in point. Off to a flyer at Madrid, same here, same at Malaga.....he has simple tactics the squad can pick up immediately.

We are incredible at home, great football, loads of goals, don't concede - he is clearly bedded in, and the players know his tactics. Yet away from home, whilst individual mistakes have been a major cause of defeats, those individual mistakes continue over a season and you have to ask how these individual mistakes only happen away from home, and it comes down to the question of how he prepares those players, the team selection of the players making the mistakes, or how a mistake wouldn't be perhaps so critical if we were a couple of goals to the good at the time it was made.

If he doesn't suss the problem by the end of the season, for me, he never will - and that goes for any manager who can't overcome a specific difficulty in any walk of life. They are paid to manage the problem, not deflect blame.

Fortunately, he isn't deflecting blame, he seems to have pretty broad shoulders, and I'm happily confident it will work out soon enough. If it doesn't.......the owner doesn't need me to remind him it's a results business.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

Our away form is never going to be as good as our home form. No teams is.
But we don't have a divine right to demand we win the league but as long as we challenge and don't surrender the league like we did last season I'll be happy.
I also think we'll have a real fight on our hands with Arsenal. Some of the stuff they've produced has been just as good as what we've done.

[Beefymcfc]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

I always believe that "bedding in" is a term used by pundits to protect their mates from criticism early in their tenure. Pellers would be a perfect case in point. Off to a flyer at Madrid, same here, same at Malaga.....he has simple tactics the squad can pick up immediately.

We are incredible at home, great football, loads of goals, don't concede - he is clearly bedded in, and the players know his tactics. Yet away from home, whilst individual mistakes have been a major cause of defeats, those individual mistakes continue over a season and you have to ask how these individual mistakes only happen away from home, and it comes down to the question of how he prepares those players, the team selection of the players making the mistakes, or how a mistake wouldn't be perhaps so critical if we were a couple of goals to the good at the time it was made.

If he doesn't suss the problem by the end of the season, for me, he never will - and that goes for any manager who can't overcome a specific difficulty in any walk of life. They are paid to manage the problem, not deflect blame.

Fortunately, he isn't deflecting blame, he seems to have pretty broad shoulders, and I'm happily confident it will work out soon enough. If it doesn't.......the owner doesn't need me to remind him it's a results business.

I think youve got the same perception as me. One thing I didn't want to being up was his away form with other clubs as last time I mentioned a few stats I had a few saying I was agaist Pellers.

The reality is, like many fan of a club in this Information age, the 1st thing you look at when trying to gauge a manager/player etc is his/her previous tenures. I won't mention anything precise but with a team that we have we should be doing far better, even with that bedding in.

I'm quite confident we can get what we want against Brom but I'm not sure we can do it against others. Pellers needs to prove.

[Beefymcfc]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

Our away form is never going to be as good as our home form. No teams is.
But we don't have a divine right to demand we win the league but as long as we challenge and don't surrender the league like we did last season I'll be happy.
I also think we'll have a real fight on our hands with Arsenal. Some of the stuff they've produced has been just as good as what we've done.

I think you'll probably realise that I don't 'Expect' anything when it comes to football and no team has a devine right but with the team we have got we should be able to at least see a decent return from certain clubs in the league, shouldn't we?

You're right, we should be at least competing but if we are giving teams the points so easily you can forget about competing for those 90 minutes when we, as a team, give it to them in less time than it takes to put out the board.

[brite blu sky]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

I always believe that "bedding in" is a term used by pundits to protect their mates from criticism early in their tenure. Pellers would be a perfect case in point. Off to a flyer at Madrid, same here, same at Malaga.....he has simple tactics the squad can pick up immediately.

We are incredible at home, great football, loads of goals, don't concede - he is clearly bedded in, and the players know his tactics. Yet away from home, whilst individual mistakes have been a major cause of defeats, those individual mistakes continue over a season and you have to ask how these individual mistakes only happen away from home, and it comes down to the question of how he prepares those players, the team selection of the players making the mistakes, or how a mistake wouldn't be perhaps so critical if we were a couple of goals to the good at the time it was made.

If he doesn't suss the problem by the end of the season, for me, he never will - and that goes for any manager who can't overcome a specific difficulty in any walk of life. They are paid to manage the problem, not deflect blame.

Fortunately, he isn't deflecting blame, he seems to have pretty broad shoulders, and I'm happily confident it will work out soon enough. If it doesn't.......the owner doesn't need me to remind him it's a results business.

I like that post and agree. I would add that the time to suss the problem is perhaps a lot shorter than a whole season. I'd allow for things like a bad spate of injuries or suspensions but he ought not to need the whole season to get to grips with what is going on. On that basis I am thinking that the next few weeks will be the make or break as to if he is going to get it or not. We may need a crisis (like so many managers seem to need to wake up) but maybe not. My take is that the so called individual mistakes are caused by players being put under situations they shouldn't be or are not prepped for. When you get a pattern like we have seen, there is usually an underlying cause.
He will either see that or it is a blind spot, we will find out I think sooner rather than later.

Not sure why but I'm thinking he is going to sort it in the next two games.

[Ted Hughes]

I'd say we've not played as good'a football at home but we cannot just rely on home form, although KK produced some very entertaining games.

I suppose what I was leading onto was where people would be happy that we'd finish and who could realistically finish above us. If we played our like we've done with the same intensity away from home then you'd have to suggest that nobody could hold us. If we carry on, or even improve 50% on our away form, then we could be also rans and as this is the Pellers thread, what happens to Pellers?

If he can't sort the away form out over the course of a season, with the team he's got (considering home form), who says we can trust him next?

I always believe that "bedding in" is a term used by pundits to protect their mates from criticism early in their tenure. Pellers would be a perfect case in point. Off to a flyer at Madrid, same here, same at Malaga.....he has simple tactics the squad can pick up immediately.

We are incredible at home, great football, loads of goals, don't concede - he is clearly bedded in, and the players know his tactics. Yet away from home, whilst individual mistakes have been a major cause of defeats, those individual mistakes continue over a season and you have to ask how these individual mistakes only happen away from home, and it comes down to the question of how he prepares those players, the team selection of the players making the mistakes, or how a mistake wouldn't be perhaps so critical if we were a couple of goals to the good at the time it was made.

If he doesn't suss the problem by the end of the season, for me, he never will - and that goes for any manager who can't overcome a specific difficulty in any walk of life. They are paid to manage the problem, not deflect blame.

Fortunately, he isn't deflecting blame, he seems to have pretty broad shoulders, and I'm happily confident it will work out soon enough. If it doesn't.......the owner doesn't need me to remind him it's a results business.

I like that post and agree. I would add that the time to suss the problem is perhaps a lot shorter than a whole season. I'd allow for things like a bad spate of injuries or suspensions but he ought not to need the whole season to get to grips with what is going on. On that basis I am thinking that the next few weeks will be the make or break as to if he is going to get it or not. We may need a crisis (like so many managers seem to need to wake up) but maybe not. My take is that the so called individual mistakes are caused by players being put under situations they shouldn't be or are not prepped for. When you get a pattern like we have seen, there is usually an underlying cause.
He will either see that or it is a blind spot, we will find out I think sooner rather than later.

Not sure why but I'm thinking he is going to sort it in the next two games.

Unless there is a total disaster or a breakdown of players/staff morale, ala Bob, I recon it's safe to assume the Count will get another crack at it next season, whether we win it or not. If he puts up an acceptable fight & plays great football, they will assume he will be better in his 2nd season. That would be a reasonable assumption to make, based on the way football usually works.

I'm in the 'happy to see this kind of football' camp & would be happy with that, but I still think we'll win it anyhow, but not without setbacks.

The Count, imo, is the first of a breed of managers who will all try to do more or less the same thing. He is one of several people laying the foundations for a club ethos, not just managing the team. We are trying to be a club which plays football the way people love football to be played. Some may try slightly different tactics & formations but all will have to win in style, as a priority.


That isn't new actually. It's our 'istree'. We were famous for cavallier football. It's in our blood.

[Herb]

It's plain to see that we have away issues but not to the degree that the results suggest because we've been converting from zonal marking to man to man marking, learning how to play a high line AND defend and had some shit bad luck and some individual fuck-ups that've cost us dearly on top of some injuries to key players.
The good news is that the learning curve is flattening out, we now have a keeper who can distribute to suit our fast counter attacks, and who doesn't leak goals for fun, and we're keeping clean sheets regularly with a venomous sting in attack provided by players who excel under Pelligrini.
So, yes, away results require obvious improvement but IMO that will happen fast and our home form is already sublime and so entertaining that I'd keep my mouth shut and put my hand in my pocket if the club decided to levy an extra charge on my season card - which must be the best goals per pound season card in European football by a country mile.
Satisfied with Pellegrini? I'm fuckin' delighted!

[nottsblue]

20 games
59 goals

Fuckin hell. There are teams who wont score this many all season

Damn right i'm satisfied at the monent