Entertainment vs Results

[Original Dub]

Because of three page of utter bollocks over very simple question.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

[freshie]

I want to be entertained first and foremost. Obviously I don't mind the odd boring win but if we won every game 1-0 off a corner or a long punt and then sat back and defended I wouldn't enjoy it. I love coming away from matches feeling that the players have put on a real show and having seen some truly world class football. But the thing is, the better football you play, generally the more successful a club is. It's not true that one has to come at the expense of another in the slightest. As others have said, Barca, Real and Bayern have all been very successful whilst playing wonderful football. Why do we need to be any different?

Spot on

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Ajax in the early 70s, AC Milan in the late 80s and Barcelona recently show that you can be seriously successful and play beautiful football. That's what we should strive for as a club as it makes the wins so much more enjoyable and the losses that much more bearable (and inevitable!).

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Because of three page of utter bollocks over very simple question.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

Die happy.

Having watched entertaining football with a few trophies thrown in for good measure. ;-)

I can see NQDP's point here, there was no need for this thread to turn into a pissing contest but unfortunately those who are accusing him of not being able to move on and the ones that are guilty of that very thing.

* ducks and runs for cover *

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

It was meant as a study to find out how people watch the game. For instance, watching City I'm usually shitting it and eating my fingernails. I rarely enjoy the gameplay as such but just hope and pray we will come through with three points.

How can you not enjoy the gameplay though? Considering where we were just 6 or 7 years ago, I enjoy seeing the likes of Aguero, Silva, Kompany , Toure etc every time they step on the pitch.
Surely you must have enjoyed the 4-1 demolition of the Rags, or the 7-0 of Norwich, 6-0 v Spurs etc etc? Even the 3-1 v Bayern was a good game to watch, to see the best side in the world put on a real masterclass.
If you get no enjoyment then what's the point?

I enjoy watching games afterwards but mostly during games it's mix of nerves and excitement.

Obviously 7-0 and 6-0 were little bit different ONCE we were five up.

That Bayern game is nice example. I fucking hated it. Sure they are great team and I can appreciate that they were playing great but fuck it, we lost and I was fucking gutted.

I never said I get no enjoyment. The rush you get from seeing City bag a late winner is ultimate high. Celebrating all the goals and that. What I meant was that I can't really sit back and think "wow, isn't this awesome football" if we are say drawing a game regardless of how well we play.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

Die happy. Pretty straightforward.

[Original Dub]

It was meant as a study to find out how people watch the game. For instance, watching City I'm usually shitting it and eating my fingernails. I rarely enjoy the gameplay as such but just hope and pray we will come through with three points.

How can you not enjoy the gameplay though? Considering where we were just 6 or 7 years ago, I enjoy seeing the likes of Aguero, Silva, Kompany , Toure etc every time they step on the pitch.
Surely you must have enjoyed the 4-1 demolition of the Rags, or the 7-0 of Norwich, 6-0 v Spurs etc etc? Even the 3-1 v Bayern was a good game to watch, to see the best side in the world put on a real masterclass.
If you get no enjoyment then what's the point?

I enjoy watching games afterwards but mostly during games it's mix of nerves and excitement.

Obviously 7-0 and 6-0 were little bit different ONCE we were five up.

That Bayern game is nice example. I fucking hated it. Sure they are great team and I can appreciate that they were playing great but fuck it, we lost and I was fucking gutted.

I never said I get no enjoyment. The rush you get from seeing City bag a late winner is ultimate high. Celebrating all the goals and that. What I meant was that I can't really sit back and think "wow, isn't this awesome football" if we are say drawing a game regardless of how well we play.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

Die happy. Pretty straightforward.

Death. The ultimate loss. But worth the loss if the quality was good?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

It was meant as a study to find out how people watch the game. For instance, watching City I'm usually shitting it and eating my fingernails. I rarely enjoy the gameplay as such but just hope and pray we will come through with three points.

How can you not enjoy the gameplay though? Considering where we were just 6 or 7 years ago, I enjoy seeing the likes of Aguero, Silva, Kompany , Toure etc every time they step on the pitch.
Surely you must have enjoyed the 4-1 demolition of the Rags, or the 7-0 of Norwich, 6-0 v Spurs etc etc? Even the 3-1 v Bayern was a good game to watch, to see the best side in the world put on a real masterclass.
If you get no enjoyment then what's the point?

I enjoy watching games afterwards but mostly during games it's mix of nerves and excitement.

Obviously 7-0 and 6-0 were little bit different ONCE we were five up.

That Bayern game is nice example. I fucking hated it. Sure they are great team and I can appreciate that they were playing great but fuck it, we lost and I was fucking gutted.

I never said I get no enjoyment. The rush you get from seeing City bag a late winner is ultimate high. Celebrating all the goals and that. What I meant was that I can't really sit back and think "wow, isn't this awesome football" if we are say drawing a game regardless of how well we play.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

Die happy. Pretty straightforward.

Death. The ultimate loss. But worth the loss if the quality was good?

As far as living life goes, yes.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Ajax in the early 70s, AC Milan in the late 80s and Barcelona recently show that you can be seriously successful and play beautiful football. That's what we should strive for as a club as it makes the wins so much more enjoyable and the losses that much more bearable (and inevitable!).

Actually, funny you should mention Ajax of 70's. That fantastic Dutch team of the 70's (basically same as Ajax) never won the world cup and some people say that it was because they weren't willing to give up on their methodical style.

AC Milan of late 80's, to my recollection, wasn't particularily flair. They had great players in Gullit, van Basten, Rijkaard, Baresi but if my memory serves they weren't particularily attacking or anything. Just well trained and individually great.

Recent Barcelona side is without a doubt the example everyone is aiming for. I'm sure EVERYONE would agree with that.

[Ted Hughes]

I was frustrated by our tactics/selection v Bayern, annoyed even, I thought the Count made a right arse of it, but I met some mates for a pint after that game & we were laughing, joking, basically accepting we had just been taught several lessons by a TEAM which was way better than us & a manager who was operating on another level to what we are used to. It had been great to watch .

Bayern were applauded off by many City fans.

Similarly, when Arsenal came & dicked us, with Vieira etc, we applauded them off the pitch.

Entertainment.

[lets all have a disco]

NQDP
You need to look at your signature once in a while which is clearly a shrine to a former manager.


You have your reservations against the new regime and i agree it is far from perfect but my original point is that threads like this have no direct answer and many differing factors.

Maybe we can bring Mancini back as defensive coach.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

NQDP
You need to look at your signature once in a while which is clearly a shrine to a former manager.


You have your reservations against the new regime and i agree it is far from perfect but my original point is that threads like this have no direct answer and many differing factors.

Maybe we can bring Mancini back as defensive coach.

Grrrrrrr..... where comes this idea that I have some reservations regarding Pellegrini? I'm firmly on the fence. Some great highs and some lows. Which way we will turn under him remains to be seen.

And I liked Mancini but I also liked Keegan, Sven and Royle. They are all history now though. I can change my signature if that's what's bothering people. It's just homage to fantastic manager. Not meant to be taking anything away from Pellegrini. Actually, I don't see the two connected in any way. It wasn't Pellegrini's fault Mancini was sacked.

[City64]

Not voted purely for the reason we only need to defend better and keep a few clean sheets away from home even with Pellegrini,s brand of football . Fucking mindblowing how we have become shit at the back in such a short space of time .

[Wonderwall]

We thoroughly entertained spurs and norwich fans but they didnt hang around to applaud us. In fact 1/2 of our own fuclin stadium didnt either.

[Original Dub]

We thoroughly entertained spurs and norwich fans but they didnt hang around to applaud us. In fact 1/2 of our own fuclin stadium didnt either.

The ones who left knew the result was in the bag.

And that's all that matters !

[Wonderwall]

We thoroughly entertained spurs and norwich fans but they didnt hang around to applaud us. In fact 1/2 of our own fuclin stadium didnt either.

The ones who left knew the result was in the bag.

And that's all that matters !

they are the same ones that leave when its in the balance too

[Hutch's Shoulder]

they are the same ones that leave when its in the balance too

But they can hear the result in the car in the way home........ In fact they could just stay home and get the result.

[Crossie]

Can we have a poll about Philip Lahm please? He would help us play attractive football and win.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Can we have a poll about Philip Lahm please? He would help us play attractive football and win.

No need. We already have equally talented defender in Alexander Kolarov.

[zuricity]

Can we have a poll about Philip Lahm please? He would help us play attractive football and win.

Do you need Lewandowski to get Klose ?

[Blue2]

Because of three page of utter bollocks over very simple question.

I'm not sure your question was that straight forward.

It kind of reminded me of a question I heard before:
"Would you rather die happy or live in complete misery?"

If we won trophies i would be happy, if we played beautiful football and won fuck all I would die unhappy.