Zabba injury update

[Goaters 103]

because injuries can be predicted...
the logic in this thread is up there with the press slating the count last week for not putting aguero on for the last few mins because he was guaranteed to score
btw what are tonight's roll over lottery numbers?

This.

So all this 'rotation' stuff is fucking bollocks then ? We should just just put the same 11 out for every game ?

Ted Ted Ted, you don't have to shout and say controversial stuff all the time.

Nobody is saying that quite clearly. However, Richards was injured - not Pellegrini's fault - and Zabba getting injured could have happened at any time, in any game he plays. Going by your logic it was madness to play Aguero last Saturday as he got injured and we need him badly for the Xmas period, and Pellegrini should have forseen he has played a lot lately, is our kingpin striker and should have gone off at half-time. Hindsight is a fabulous thing, but I am not going to lambast the manager for picking a strong side in a game that we won and are now 1 round from the bloody final.

There is no way you can predict when an injury will come. It was more likely last night that if Pellegrini had picked Boyata to start, Dyer would have ripped him to shreds - if that happened people would be slagging off Pellegrini for picking a non-fullback at fullback. The manager cant win applying the logic you are doing.

Last night Demichelis, Clichy, Ferna, Ya Ya, Nasri and Negredo all sat down; Zabba may have done but he played and he got injured - it happens. We have options at right back in Clichy or Milner if the need arises, or decent funds to recruit one quickly in early January if Richards and Zabba are out for extended periods.

[Florida Blue]

It would have been a 'strong side' without playing our only fit right back, you thick cunts.

THAT is the point.

Our only fit right back? Isn't Richards fit?




I kid, I kid.

[Ted Hughes]

because injuries can be predicted...
the logic in this thread is up there with the press slating the count last week for not putting aguero on for the last few mins because he was guaranteed to score
btw what are tonight's roll over lottery numbers?

This.

So all this 'rotation' stuff is fucking bollocks then ? We should just just put the same 11 out for every game ?

Ted Ted Ted, you don't have to shout and say controversial stuff all the time.

Nobody is saying that quite clearly. However, Richards was injured - not Pellegrini's fault - and Zabba getting injured could have happened at any time, in any game he plays. Going by your logic it was madness to play Aguero last Saturday as he got injured and we need him badly for the Xmas period, and Pellegrini should have forseen he has played a lot lately, is our kingpin striker and should have gone off at half-time. Hindsight is a fabulous thing, but I am not going to lambast the manager for picking a strong side in a game that we won and are now 1 round from the bloody final.

There is no way you can predict when an injury will come. It was more likely last night that if Pellegrini had picked Boyata to start, Dyer would have ripped him to shreds - if that happened people would be slagging off Pellegrini for picking a non-fullback at fullback. The manager cant win applying the logic you are doing.

Last night Demichelis, Clichy, Ferna, Ya Ya, Nasri and Negredo all sat down; Zabba may have done but he played and he got injured - it happens. We have options at right back in Clichy or Milner if the need arises, or decent funds to recruit one quiclly in early January if Richards and Zabba are out for extended periods.

No he can't fucking win if he does shit like this; it will cost us.

I'll ask again: is 'rotation' bollocks ?

If it isn't bollocks, why did Pellegrini rotate players last night ?

If it isn't bollocks, which position have we no cover for ?


We haven't got a fucking replacement for Zabaleta. So people are complaining about it.

Was it a decent possibility a fullback who has been legging up & down the right wing in a high pressure game on Saturday, picks up a strain in the freezing cold pissing rain on a Wed night ?

YES! IT WAS.

Was it in any way necessary for him to play ?

NO IT WASN'T.

I don't get what is so difficult to understand about this point.


It was shite management & if it cost us key games & we slipped out of contention, or got thrashed by the rags in the semis because we had to put out an injury hit side, half the people who are full of love now, won't be quoting mitigating circumstances, they will be whinging that it's not good enough.

We are going to get injuries in this period.

We have just got one we could have avoided by resting the most obvious player who anybody would expect to be rested.

[Beefymcfc]

It would have been a 'strong side' without playing our only fit right back, you thick cunts.

THAT is the point.

I had no problems with Zab's playing and understood why he did. Does that make me a thick cunt?

So, what you're saying is that Pellers fucked up and that he should've envisaged Zab's getting an injury?

If Zab's didn't play who is to say that it wouldn't have happened a few days later against Fulham, not giving us time to plan?

Crystal balls and all that mate.

[Breks]

Wind it in, absolutely no need for the insults.

He couldn't know but he could assess the risk and take into account the fixture list and plan accordingly.

i won't wind fuck all in. The complainers are bellends.

[Goaters 103]

It would have been a 'strong side' without playing our only fit right back, you thick cunts.

THAT is the point.

I had no problems with Zab's playing and understood why he did. Does that make me a thick cunt?

So, what you're saying is that Pellers fucked up and that he should've envisaged Zab's getting an injury?

That's it in a nutshell Beefy, and Im of exactly the same opinion on Zabba's selection last night.

Pellegrini's lack of ability to see into the future is what's being called into question.

[Beefymcfc]

Everybody back to the Pelligrini thread.

[Breks]

Pellegrini out! He's a shite clairvoyant!

[Beefymcfc]

Pellegrini out! He's a shite clairvoyant!

Lick my balls- crystal ;-)

[Slim]

There really is some right bellends on here. How the fuck was Pellegrini to know he would pull his hamstring? He didn't! Were in the semi finals stop whinging like my fucking wife!

Yes, yes there are. Some of them even disrespect their own wives on an internet forum to emphasise a point.

[Ted Hughes]

So let me get this straight, all the people who think Pellegrini should only leave out Zabba if he had a a crystal ball to predict injury , think that the other players were left out purely because he wanted to be fair to those not playing & give them a chance ? Not because he was concerned they may pick up injuries ?

That's why clubs rotate players; not to prevent injury, but purely to give others a chance ?

Is this what you characters actually believe ?

Come on let's hear it.

[Breks]

Yes, yes there are. Some of them even disrespect their own wives on an internet forum to emphasise a point.

She doesn't read it and you lot don't know her so big fucking deal.

[Breks]

So let me get this straight, all the people who think Pellegrini should only leave out Zabba if he had a a crystal ball to predict injury , think that the other players were left out purely because he wanted to be fair to those not playing & give them a chance ? Not because he was concerned they may pick up injuries ?

That's why clubs rotate players; not to prevent injury, but purely to give others a chance ?

Is this what you characters actually believe ?

Come on let's hear it.

Zab played because Richards is injured. He obviously wanted to play a recognised right back and not a makeshift one. Why the fuck don't you understand that?

[Ted Hughes]

So let me get this straight, all the people who think Pellegrini should only leave out Zabba if he had a a crystal ball to predict injury , think that the other players were left out purely because he wanted to be fair to those not playing & give them a chance ? Not because he was concerned they may pick up injuries ?

That's why clubs rotate players; not to prevent injury, but purely to give others a chance ?

Is this what you characters actually believe ?

Come on let's hear it.

Zab played because Richards is injured. He obviously wanted to play a recognised right back and not a makeshift one. Why the fuck don't you understand that?

So he would just play 60 games if Richards was injured then ?

[phips]

i honestly cannot believe Pellegrini played him today

who should he have played? Boyata? Then there would be half of this board complaining and saying he should be taking the competition seriously. Hindsight is a wonderful thing & both Silva and Kompany came through unscathed and are probably ahead of Zabba in the pre-match 'they shouldn't face Leicester' debate.

I dont think many people at all on this board would have complained had Boyata started. He is a capable player and We should be well capable of beating a team like Leicester withot some of our major players.

Glad we won but gutted about his injury. He is so important for that Liverpool game.

Agreed. People probably wouldnt have complained considering many on here said that Zaba shouldnt be in the squad. And yes, Boyata shouldve started.

I understand its a trophy we can win but it was Leicester City for god's sake. We couldve played Dzeko at RB and still won.
Zaba is crucial for the big Premier League games we have coming up, especially with Micah out.

Injuries can happen any time, we can't wrap all our players in cotton wool all the time. There are always injuries, were just extremely unlucky that two fullbacks are out together.

Exactly. but the one time injuries for sure cant happen is when youre sitting on the bench. luck would have nothing to do with it if he didnt play. sure, he couldve gotten injured in training next week or the next match but we wouldve at least had him for those

[nottsblue]

Do we have hindsight?

No, we don't.

Do we want to win the League cup?

I for one do. Obvious reasons

Did Zabba have to play last night

No. But see question 1 and 2. Playing the best side available helps win games and we couldnt know an injury would be picked up. It's part and parcel of the game and could just as easily have happened v Fulham. You can't not play players because of 'might'. Its a bummer both full backs are injured at same time but so what. We have a great manager. We have a big squad. We have class players. Let them earn their fuckin corn and adapt to the situation at hand. Other teams have men out. Lets just get on with it. Starting Saturday with another 3 points.

[Beefymcfc]

So let me get this straight, all the people who think Pellegrini should only leave out Zabba if he had a a crystal ball to predict injury , think that the other players were left out purely because he wanted to be fair to those not playing & give them a chance ? Not because he was concerned they may pick up injuries ?

That's why clubs rotate players; not to prevent injury, but purely to give others a chance ?

Is this what you characters actually believe ?

Come on let's hear it.

It doesn't matter what anybody believes, what matters is that Pellers played him and he got an injury, one that he could've picked up a few days later.

So, what do you characters believe, you are better at managing than the manager?

[Breks]

So he would just play 60 games if Richards was injured then ?

No because a replacement for Richards would be brought in.

[Ted Hughes]

So let me get this straight, all the people who think Pellegrini should only leave out Zabba if he had a a crystal ball to predict injury , think that the other players were left out purely because he wanted to be fair to those not playing & give them a chance ? Not because he was concerned they may pick up injuries ?

That's why clubs rotate players; not to prevent injury, but purely to give others a chance ?

Is this what you characters actually believe ?

Come on let's hear it.

It doesn't matter what anybody believes, what matters is that Pellers played him and he got an injury, one that he could've picked up a few days later.

So, what do you characters believe, you are better at managing than the manager?

That's right, what was I ever thinking ?

Lets just close down the fucking site & not bother, as the manager is always right & never gets anything wrong, just as he was when he thought we needed five goals at Bayern or when he played Garcia at centre back.

I'll pray to him later & see if he can explain it to me & then I will be enlightened & perhaps I will go forth & spread his word, along with that of Mancini who also could not be questioned, but wait, which word is the true word, seeing as neither can be fucking questioned ?

[Beefymcfc]

Do we have hindsight?

No, we don't.

Do we want to win the League cup?

I for one do. Obvious reasons

Did Zabba have to play last night

No. But see question 1 and 2. Playing the best side available helps win games and we couldnt know an injury would be picked up. It's part and parcel of the game and could just as easily have happened v Fulham. You can't not play players because of 'might'. Its a bummer both full backs are injured at same time but so what. We have a great manager. We have a big squad. We have class players. Let them earn their fuckin corn and adapt to the situation at hand. Other teams have men out. Lets just get on with it. Starting Saturday with another 3 points.

Exactly. As a manager do you take a risk with a player that is hard as nails and you know has the stamina of a work-horse or do you play somebody out of position who hasn't had any real match play?

From my perspective, Pellers identified that Dyer was their biggest threat and countered it with the best possible player. Dyer had nothing against Zab's which left them very limited and it was only when DB came on that he started getting joy, DB immediately getting a yellow. Also, if I'm not correct, wasn't it Dyer who scored against us, slipping inside DB when DB left him?