Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby gillie » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:47 am

Imo I think this is a cheap shot by the media to try to de-value Pellegrini's success.Why the fuck dos'e a reporter need to ask an ex-manager how he thinks how well the current manager is doing.Btw I truly believe getting rid of Bobby and bringing in Manuel will prove to be the best bit of business our club ever did.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Slim » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:48 am

Wonderwall wrote:
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carl_feedthegoat wrote:"The players scoring the goals are players that I bought - Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko, Yaya Toure and David Silva," he added.
"I think Pellegrini is doing a good job but what is happening now at Manchester City, we did three years ago."

Bollocks , bringing in Navas and Negredo and actually man managing the players is the reason we are banging them in for fun and winning.................with a smile.


so if he wants the acclaim then he should shoulder all the blame for messing up in Europe twice and completely screwing up the league and cup last season. You cant have it both ways,


I don't think one of those was "messing up". Good points total in a very tough group.


Madrid Away?


Were you expecting something from that game before kickoff?
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:49 am

Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:"The players scoring the goals are players that I bought - Sergio Aguero, Edin Dzeko, Yaya Toure and David Silva," he added.
"I think Pellegrini is doing a good job but what is happening now at Manchester City, we did three years ago."

Bollocks , bringing in Navas and Negredo and actually man managing the players is the reason we are banging them in for fun and winning.................with a smile.


so if he wants the acclaim then he should shoulder all the blame for messing up in Europe twice and completely screwing up the league and cup last season. You cant have it both ways,


I don't think one of those was "messing up". Good points total in a very tough group.


Madrid Away?


Were you expecting something from that game before kickoff?


I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Slim » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:51 am

Wonderwall wrote:I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go


I'm sure QPR felt the same.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Herb » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:57 am

Mancini was responsible while he was at the helm but Pellegrini has not only brought in top players to massively improve the squad, he's also got more out of the players already here than Mancini ever could.

You should learn to move on Roberto because you're making yourself look a bit silly . . .
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby AG7 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:14 am

How is this any different when Moyes said after loosing to Everton that its good to see all the good work he did there, that team is building up on that ... and we all blasted him for that ... Moyes was clearly trying to take some credit for how good Everton are playing this season ...

Mancini should keep quiet ... he is a City legend, he gave us terrific moments and even showed class by taking out a thank you ad in the paper for us fans when leaving ... now perhaps he has nothing to gain about talking about city so best to just keep mum please. The more he'll talk the more pathetic it'll look, doesn't matter what he says because the team is obviously doing better than his tenure ...
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby AG7 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:38 am

LOL ...

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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Slim » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:40 am

No doubt Stuart Pearce will be on the news next telling us he signed Hart.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Benjay » Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:45 am

I truly believe getting rid of Bobby and bringing in Manuel will prove to be the best bit of business our club ever did.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. And its only Pellers first season. Gollum and Jose know this league already which makes the work Pellers is doing even more impressive.
Also feel like the board have an excellent grip on things. They know what they are doing.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:24 pm

I believed Bobby held us back. I think what we have seen of us under a more attack minded manager, shows this to be true.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:30 pm

Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go


I'm sure QPR felt the same.


6 points off Ajax & we would have been playing v a Dortmund side with nothing to play for, needing 1 point.

There is also the fact that, now most people have realised that Nastasic isn't actually Bobby Moore, the daft cunt stuck him in at the Bernabau at 19, & he put Maicon at fucking fullbck.

Pellegrini would have hammered Ajax twice hammered Dortmund away & probably beat Real Madrid at least once.

In the previous season, Mancini brought back Kolo Toure, who hadn't kicked a ball for 6 months, & stuck him up against Gomez.

For City, in Europe, the bloke was a joke.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Slim » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:37 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go


I'm sure QPR felt the same.


6 points off Ajax & we would have been playing v a Dortmund side with nothing to play for, needing 1 point.

There is also the fact that, now most people have realised that Nastasic isn't actually Bobby Moore, the daft cunt stuck him in at the Bernabau at 19, & he put Maicon at fucking fullbck.

Pellegrini would have hammered Ajax twice hammered Dortmund away & probably beat Real Madrid at least once.

In the previous season, Mancini brought back Kolo Toure, who hadn't kicked a ball for 6 months, & stuck him up against Gomez.

For City, in Europe, the bloke was a joke.


I find it funny that I said one of those season's he didn't really mess it up, we got 10 points in a hard group and it wasn't quite enough.

And then you and my brother both cite examples of how he fucked up from the other season to prove what exactly? That I am wrong on a point I never made?
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:37 pm

Reporters asking questions to cause trouble and Mancini doing what he does,saying wrong things at wrong times.

We have been work in progress since the sheik took over and developing all the time.Each manager played his part and whether Pellegrini is the final stage we will find out.If Pellegrini was not in charge this season we could well be alongside the scum and the special special football being played would just be a dream.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:49 pm

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go


I'm sure QPR felt the same.


6 points off Ajax & we would have been playing v a Dortmund side with nothing to play for, needing 1 point.

There is also the fact that, now most people have realised that Nastasic isn't actually Bobby Moore, the daft cunt stuck him in at the Bernabau at 19, & he put Maicon at fucking fullbck.

Pellegrini would have hammered Ajax twice hammered Dortmund away & probably beat Real Madrid at least once.

In the previous season, Mancini brought back Kolo Toure, who hadn't kicked a ball for 6 months, & stuck him up against Gomez.

For City, in Europe, the bloke was a joke.


I find it funny that I said one of those season's he didn't really mess it up, we got 10 points in a hard group and it wasn't quite enough.

And then you and my brother both cite examples of how he fucked up from the other season to prove what exactly? That I am wrong on a point I never made?


Not every line I post is for your benefit.

The bit replying to you, is the stuff which relates to it.

The rest is an addition of my opinion on his other ludicrous big game decision. I think he was shite in the UEFA Cup as well, which I forgot to mention.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:53 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:I had a little chuckle at that. I would not expect a manager to come out and belittle his own achievements but to claim we are the same as three years ago is a tad deluded.

Apart from coasting in the Champions Leauge and scoring for fun the main difference is we do not have two negative influences in the changing room like Tevez and Balotelli in the dressing room anymore. problems Mancini either created or chucked gas on the fire. I don't think it is a coincidence that guys like Dzeko and Nasri all of a sudden look like solid team players now that those two are gone.

Look at Dzeko's set up for Kuns goal against Blackburn. He could easily have scored himself. He was in a a better posistion to score from there than the two goals he scored but laid one on a plate for a team mate who had been out injured. Had Tevez or Balotelli been out that long last season there is no chance he would have passed to them. That spoke volumes for the difference in the dressing room from this season to that of the Mancini era.

Tevez would have caused problems regardless of the manager. Balotelli was a problem Mancini brought on himself.



I actually think bringing back Tevez was Bob's best decision as a City manager. He put the club ahead of himself and it won us the title.

I agree with the rest of your post though.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby blues-clues » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:01 pm

Sorry Roberto you are a great bloke and you deserve you place in the club's history but that interview ranks amongst the biggest pile of crap I have heard from an ex manager and does you no credit. As others have said here, better to keep you mouth shut than make yourself look a knob.

You may not have have lost the dressing room but if they were on your side they definitely didn't show it in the FA Cup final against Wigan, for whom Van Persie did not play as I recall.

You didn't have Van Persie but you didn't need him and to be still bleating on about it now shows a lack of class. You got no reward for persevering with Balotelli, a strategy that had a negative impact on other players. You failed to get anywhere near the best from Dzeko, Nasri, Yaya, and others and whatever your plan was with 3 at the back you either had the wrong personnel, the wrong training tactics or the wrong idea and you should have recognised much sooner that it just was not working. You are a long way away and maybe you don't follow the matches now but if you did you would see that players are happy to be part of what really seems to be a happy squad even if they are not playing 90 minutes every game. The media are talking about our football not our infighting. If you think the club is the same now as three years ago you are seriously mistaken.

It may not all be about Pellegrini but we would not be getting the admiration and respect that we are currently enjoying if you were still here and the "Moysey Neighbours" would not be shitting themselves about playing us in a Wembley final even though they have got Van Persie.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Slim » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:04 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:I always expect something, especially winning with minutes to go


I'm sure QPR felt the same.


6 points off Ajax & we would have been playing v a Dortmund side with nothing to play for, needing 1 point.

There is also the fact that, now most people have realised that Nastasic isn't actually Bobby Moore, the daft cunt stuck him in at the Bernabau at 19, & he put Maicon at fucking fullbck.

Pellegrini would have hammered Ajax twice hammered Dortmund away & probably beat Real Madrid at least once.

In the previous season, Mancini brought back Kolo Toure, who hadn't kicked a ball for 6 months, & stuck him up against Gomez.

For City, in Europe, the bloke was a joke.


I find it funny that I said one of those season's he didn't really mess it up, we got 10 points in a hard group and it wasn't quite enough.

And then you and my brother both cite examples of how he fucked up from the other season to prove what exactly? That I am wrong on a point I never made?


Not every line I post is for your benefit.

The bit replying to you, is the stuff which relates to it.

The rest is an addition of my opinion on his other ludicrous big game decision. I think he was shite in the UEFA Cup as well, which I forgot to mention.


My mistake, I misconstrued the fact you weren't replying to me on the basis that you were replying to me.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:10 pm

Slim wrote:
My mistake, I misconstrued the fact you weren't replying to me on the basis that you were replying to me.


I did reply to you.

He put fat fucking Kolo Toure in the middle of the defence v Bayern away, & we were totally disorganised & got off to a shit start in the group when we had actually looked the better team until crappy defensive mistakes crept in.

It was ridiculous.

I don't think his points total there is anything to use in his defence. He dicked around with the team & tactics , both seasons.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:22 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
My mistake, I misconstrued the fact you weren't replying to me on the basis that you were replying to me.


I did reply to you.

He put fat fucking Kolo Toure in the middle of the defence v Bayern away, & we were totally disorganised & got off to a shit start in the group when we had actually looked the better team until crappy defensive mistakes crept in.

It was ridiculous.

I don't think his points total there is anything to use in his defence. He dicked around with the team & tactics , both seasons.


not to mention he put zabba and Kolarov against Napoli at home when we all knew they had pace to burn and were a counter attacking unit. If there was a ever a time to play Richards and Clichy, that was the game. Both Zabba and Kolarov were not playing anywhere near the standard they are now and they got murdered time and time again.
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Re: Who gets the credit? Bobby or Pellers?

Postby Sister of fu » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:41 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:I had a little chuckle at that. I would not expect a manager to come out and belittle his own achievements but to claim we are the same as three years ago is a tad deluded.

Apart from coasting in the Champions Leauge and scoring for fun the main difference is we do not have two negative influences in the changing room like Tevez and Balotelli in the dressing room anymore. problems Mancini either created or chucked gas on the fire. I don't think it is a coincidence that guys like Dzeko and Nasri all of a sudden look like solid team players now that those two are gone.

Look at Dzeko's set up for Kuns goal against Blackburn. He could easily have scored himself. He was in a a better posistion to score from there than the two goals he scored but laid one on a plate for a team mate who had been out injured. Had Tevez or Balotelli been out that long last season there is no chance he would have passed to them. That spoke volumes for the difference in the dressing room from this season to that of the Mancini era.

[highlight]Tevez would have caused problems regardless of the manager. Balotelli was a problem Mancini brought on himself.
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You no what I like, when I am having my porridge in the morning and Sky Sports news is on and they have the media guy come on and report on little stories and tit bits, there are NO negative City stories. Zero reports of fighting or someone wanting out. They must be ragging over at the Mail and the Mirror. We have turned into the world’s most boring club where everyone loves one another….IMO that’s down to one guy. Mr Pellegrini
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