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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:25 pm

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His other leg catches Dzeko well before he reaches the ball, he was off the ground & it was from behind.

The ref booked Demichelis for going for a clear ball from a similar angle, because Adebayor jumped in front of him at the last second, yet going through the back of Dzeko with both feet off the ground isn't a penalty according to Dermott Gallagher.


The thing nobody seems to have mentioned, is that the Lino got both decisions right, but most likely for the wrong reasons.

He could never have seen the contact on Dzeko, so that was a guess on his part, and very very late.

And he seemed to only raise the flag for offside once the ball had gone in the net, not when Adebayor made the challenge, so it seems he flagged for Dawson. For me the lateness of those two calls is more than a little suspicious, and if I didn't know any better, that Lino could be a blue, or at best trying to even out some of the hideous decisions Marriner did make in the game.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:30 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
His other leg catches Dzeko well before he reaches the ball, he was off the ground & it was from behind.

The ref booked Demichelis for going for a clear ball from a similar angle, because Adebayor jumped in front of him at the last second, yet going through the back of Dzeko with both feet off the ground isn't a penalty according to Dermott Gallagher.


The thing nobody seems to have mentioned, is that the Lino got both decisions right, but most likely for the wrong reasons.

He could never have seen the contact on Dzeko, so that was a guess on his part, and very very late.

And he seemed to only raise the flag for offside once the ball had gone in the net, not when Adebayor made the challenge, so it seems he flagged for Dawson. For me the lateness of those two calls is more than a little suspicious, and if I didn't know any better, that Lino could be a blue, or at best trying to even out some of the hideous decisions Marriner did make in the game.


Was Dawson definitely on? I've yet to see a decent replay where the offside line can be seen clearly. BT's camera angles were shit and just left it to guesswork.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:49 pm

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Was Dawson definitely on? I've yet to see a decent replay where the offside line can be seen clearly. BT's camera angles were shit and just left it to guesswork.


They showed an angle over here which was straight across the goal line, Andy Gray, Platt etc couldn't make their minds up at half time, but said that as Adebayor was in the line of sight before zabba,(linesman was out of position, at a slight angle behind play) there was no way the linesman could have been sure whether Adebayor was on or off.

Later on gray reckoned Dawson could have been offside, but again the linesman couldn't see city's last man so he must have just shit himself and guessed.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby zuricity » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:51 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
The thing nobody seems to have mentioned, is that the Lino got both decisions right, but most likely for the wrong reasons.

He could never have seen the contact on Dzeko, so that was a guess on his part, and very very late.

And he seemed to only raise the flag for offside once the ball had gone in the net, not when Adebayor made the challenge, so it seems he flagged for Dawson. For me the lateness of those two calls is more than a little suspicious, and if I didn't know any better, that Lino could be a blue, or at best trying to even out some of the hideous decisions Marriner did make in the game.


Neither decision by the linesman was suspicious.

Mariner is being questioned because he wasn't going to call for a penalty, when it clearly was.

Offside was dealt with correctly. I don't care if he does take a second to go over the events in his head. He(the linesman) called it correctly , everything else is silly speculation.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:53 pm

zuricity wrote:
Neither decision by the linesman was suspicious.

Mariner is being questioned because ge wasn't going to call for a penalty, when it clearly was.

Offside was dealt with correctly. I don't care if he does take a second to go over the events in his head. He called it correctly , everything else is silly speculation.


Not when it was impossible to see city's last man for the offside, or the contact for the penalty which happened on the left of the defender, meaning he would have had to have seen through rose to see the contact.

He guessed at both decisions
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby zuricity » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Not when it was impossible to see city's last man for the offside, or the contact for the penalty which happened on the left of the defender, meaning he would have had to have seen through rose to see the contact.

He guessed at both decisions


Come off it! He had a better chance than you or I and he could see when the free kick was being taken . If we can't trust a guy who is in line with the back line of defence who can we trust?

No way did he guess. Edin was taken out from behind , it is a penalty.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby ruralblue » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Never seen such blatant ignorant one sided reffing to be honest.
All the other stuff aside Ade should have also walked for running over and physically shoving yaya off the pitch. Dirty bastard.

Marriner should be pulled on quite a few things from last night!
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:01 pm

zuricity wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Not when it was impossible to see city's last man for the offside, or the contact for the penalty which happened on the left of the defender, meaning he would have had to have seen through rose to see the contact.

He guessed at both decisions


Come off it! He had a better chance than you or I and he could see when the free kick was being taken . If we can't trust a guy who is in line with the back line of defence who can we trust?

No way did he guess. Edin was taken out from behind , it is a penalty.


he is not allowed to guess, if in doubt he should favour the attackers, therefore, he was in no doubt.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby ruralblue » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:02 pm

With regards the pen Edin was about to fire his shot and 95% sure it would have gone in from that distance but have proper slowed it down and Rose touches Edin before the ball. Clear pen.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Cit.revenge » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:07 pm

If there was not that Lino he could fuck us real bad and he was in the mood to do just that.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby zuricity » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:19 pm

ruralblue wrote:With regards the pen Edin was about to fire his shot and 95% sure it would have gone in from that distance but have proper slowed it down and Rose touches Edin before the ball. Clear pen.


Exactly. No guess work needed !
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:20 pm

zuricity wrote:
Come off it! He had a better chance than you or I and he could see when the free kick was being taken . If we can't trust a guy who is in line with the back line of defence who can we trust?

No way did he guess. Edin was taken out from behind , it is a penalty.



I know it was a penalty having seen the replay and stills, but it doesn't remove the fact that he couldn't see the contact, so had no business flagging for the penalty. The only grounds he had for giving that penalty was thinking rose caught Dzeko with his leading leg before touching the ball. It was physically impossible to see the actual contact which occurred from where he was stood, just as it was physically impossible to see zabaleta from the poor position he took up.

If he couldn't possibly have seen either incident, how can he have done anything other than guessed?

All that said, not that I'm complaining ;0)
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:21 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
he is not allowed to guess, if in doubt he should favour the attackers, therefore, he was in no doubt.


He might have thought he was in no doubt, but if its physically impossible for him to have seen the contact, how can he have done anything but guess?

He got it right, fair fucks to him, but he got both calls wrong for the wrong reasons.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:19 pm

Seems to me some want all refs to be the standard of Collina and, get their knickers in a twist when this don't happen.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:29 pm

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Is he fucking foreign!

How he came to some of those decisions last night is beyond me. From being so great to being kicked to fuck within the space of a minute was a disgrace. The 2 so called dubious decisions in our favour weren't even given by him, it was his lino. That first decision for the offside call resulted from undeniable foul on Zab's, followed by a undeniable dive by Rose and if the lino hadn't have flagged he would have basically given them 3 incorrect decisions and a goal for absolulely nothing.

The stamp on Demi, the stamp on Dave yet Yaya has a first niggle at a Spurs player and he's shown a yellow.

Definately had orders last night and anybody who believes that was some sort of impartial display needs their head testing.

It may have been mentioned, but they should have had at least 3 players sent off at our place. I don't know who the ref was for that game, but they seem to have impunity from the refs for playing their shitty, clogging football. Wankers.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:32 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:We got nothing from him last night & the two decisions by the lino were correct.

The fact is though, we have suffered from shite refs all our lives & still get a lot of 50/50 decisions against & even 70/30 ones against but ten years ago ALL of the big decisions we have had in our favour this season, would have gone against us.

2 seasons ago the rags almost got the title thanks to refs/linos favouring them & shitting on us; it cost us about 12/15 points difference.

Last year was much less so but probably more than half of the big ones would have gone against. This season, we had a few big ones wrongly go against & a few for. It's evening out.

The profile of the club, plus the Ferguson era ending at the rags, plus the fantastic football we are playing, has all improved our ability to get big decisions.

Van Persey was involved in 4 off-the-ball incidents before Christmas for which he got a singular yellow rather than 4 reds. Indirectly, the refs punished us because it was beetroot whiskers last season.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:39 pm

It was a penalty. It was off-side. They got away with handball and stamping on our players. Yet the media are spinning it in a way to detract from the fact we're destroying every one of their sacred cows. Well, mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Chopper » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:40 pm

dazby wrote:I actually didn't think he was all that bad. Not the best performance but he let the game flow. Had he of ignored his linos I may have a different opinion, but I thought he was ok.


Shrooms or LSD last night Dazza?
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby zuricity » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:41 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
He might have thought he was in no doubt, but if its physically impossible for him to have seen the contact, how can he have done anything but guess?

He got it right, fair fucks to him, but he got both calls wrong for the wrong reasons.


Have you spoken to the linesman about it ? i haven't.However i do know that if you tackle from behind and the player goes down. It is a foul. I put it to you that his tackle was a foul because not only did Edin go to the floor but also Edin hesitated to kick the ball , for whatever reason.Perhaps even not wanting to risk injury to himself.If the player had not dived in from behind Edin in all probability, would have scored.
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Re: Andrew Marriner

Postby Chopper » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:56 pm

ruralblue wrote:Never seen such blatant ignorant one sided reffing to be honest.
All the other stuff aside Ade should have also walked for running over and physically shoving yaya off the pitch. Dirty bastard.

Marriner should be pulled on quite a few things from last night!


Reminded me of the Scotland Uruguay hack job in the 86 world cup.
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