Moyes-ometer

[patrickblue]

Talking of which, I swear they said yesterday on talkshite that Hernandez has been sent somewhere in loan, yet he came on as sub.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Didn't see the game, but taking off Van Rapist when they needed a goal seems like a master stroke from gollum. Agent Moyes has a ring of authenticity about it.

Planned to take him off as he is coming back from injury and with that great goalscorer Welbeck to come on they had no worries.

[failsworthblue]

The Chosen One just keeps giving.

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

[City64]

The chosen one ? He is very very special lol

[Dunne's Half-Time Pint]

Used to hate him. The he managed to get Everton a 4-4 draw at OT which saved our title hopes. Now this. Love him.

[Green & Blue]

Sir David Moyes.Never really took to him at Everton but I can't help but admire the work he's done at the swamp.I keep expecting them to scrape wins as they always seemed to do but he can't even get them motivated for that.At this rate rag fans must be getting seriously worried about champions league qualification.Loving every minute of it.

[zuricity]

Used to hate him. The he managed to get Everton a 4-4 draw at OT which saved our title hopes. Now this. Love him.

I put it to you that Everton were not really planning a 4-4 but didn't realise what they were doing

[nottsblue]

Presume the equivalent rag forum is in meltdown? All the cockneys choking on their jellied eels

[blues-clues]

Moyes said," I don't know what we have to do to win"

Brilliant. How much is he being paid and he doesn't know that he needs his team to score more than the opposition.

An absolutely brilliant quote. Almost as good as the chosen one.

[zuricity]

Moyes said," I don't know what we have to do to win"

Brilliant. How much is he being paid and he doesn't know that he needs his team to score more than the opposition.

An absolutely brilliant quote. Almost as good as the chosen one.

Yes and on the Beeb too ! , i thought about putting it on here , then i realised that everyone will pick up on this.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

This from Red Cafe under the thread "Things today that prove Moyes is an idiot"

I'm afraid it's now become undeniable. Here's why:

1) United now have Rooney, Kagawa and Mata who are all too talented to sit on the bench, and who only really play effectively off the striker as a no10. So, with all three fit and available, which one of them spent the most time playing there today? That's right.......Danny Welbeck.

2) United had Mata, Rooney and Van Persie on the pitch today, the three best (and only capable) corner takers at the club. Which one of them took nearly all of our corners? .......Ashley Young.

3) Due to the height of Stoke in the centre of the pitch, Chris Smalling was selected to play on the right wing, whereupon he won zero headers until an injury forced him to move into the centre.

4) Apparently this height concern thing with Stoke also only applies to the right fullback position. Patrice Evra being targeted by Stoke due to his size even after Rafael came on, is of no concern at all.

5) Inexplicably, signing Mata for a shitload of money, hasn't solved United's problem of having too many attacking players and no midfield.

6) When you win a game in a run of losing games, obviously the correct thing to do on both occasions is change at least 6 of your outfield positions for the next game.

7) Ashley Young, who even when he plays well, looks shit, is the only attacking player other than Valencia who Moyes seems to trust enough to actually play consistently in a single position. When you think about that...is Moyes actually genuinely brain damaged?

8) Wilfried Zaha, given the grand total of 1 sub appearance to prove himself, sent on loan. More assists in 52 minutes for a relegation threatened team than Young and Valencia have managed between them ALL season.

9) Bizarre ignorance or lack of awareness that it was very windy from the likes of Rooney not addressed in any way.

10) 1st February 2014...David Moyes still doesn't know enough about his players to have a clue what his first team is, apart from David De Gea and Patrice Evra. Either that or, after 10+ years in topflight management, still hasn't figured out that having a first team is slightly important.0

11) Zaha not allowed to go on loan because Nani's not fit...a week later, Zaha sent on loan despite Nani not being fit. Fabio sold despite squad being left with only 3 fullbacks, one of whom is actually a slightly terrible winger. Leaving only 2 actual fullbacks...one of whom gets injured a lot. Somehow we've gone from being desperate enough for a fullback to try and loan onein a panic, to allowing one to just leave, despite there being absolutely no other changes to our defensive personel in the time between these two things happening.


Is there a defence for any of these points? If not I think it's fairly safe to finally cave in and assume whatever plot or plan David Moyes did have, has long since flown away to never land.

[Chopper]

Stoke earn first win over Man Utd since 1984

Swansea win first ever game at Old Trafford

Newcastle win at Man Utd for first time since 1972

Everton achieve same feat for first time since 1992

West Brom win at Old Trafford for first time since 1978

The jobs a good un.

[Goaters 103]

Does it Mata?

Not to me no. The only worry is that this twit is so bad he gets himself sacked.

[Herb]

Does it Mata?

Not to me no. The only worry is that this twit is so bad he gets himself sacked.

I'll second that motion; I've never enjoyed watching united so much . . . ever. they have moyes stamp all over them now and are truly a poor shadow of a shit everton. Well done moyesie, well done mate, you're a stayer - I hope.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Fair play to the rag who posted that list (originally). Most amusing, especially point number one.

[MilnersJaw]

Moysies appointment just goes to show that bacon face was suffering from dementia when he threw in the towel. Haha letting him pick his mate to take over, even Alan pardrew would do better. When shrek fucks off and van pussy retires this club will be fighting to get out of relegation.

[Lee_R]

Honestly both Pellers and Super Moyesy have surpassed my expectations for this season. Cracking!

Im now totally convinced hes doing it deliberately.

[john@staustell]

It seems our man in Stretford is getting into trouble now:

polonius (Manchester United): "I thought we played well.."-Sigh..This is the eight time we've been beaten in the league we've heard that. Yawn..Broken record. The man thinks getting to the byline is the name of the game. At full-time, we had 33 attempts, with 5 completed. The summer cannot come quick enough.

boxtobox (Manchester United): moyes is an idiot.he hasn,t learnt a thing.useless tool.get rid of now

mightymax (Manchester United): Evans Jones Smalling Cleverley Carrick Rooney Young... What is it with our obsession with starting with British players. We are quite extraordinary compared to top teams of PL when it comes to this. Why on earth? Not really working, is it? i don't get it.

rpbartlett (Manchester United): well zaha gets man of the match on his debut for cardiff. Yet we have to persist with clowns like young, welwide, and valencia. I just cant get my head around why moyes just didn't give him his chance

el_chicharito29 (Manchester United): After watching todays match again, I think Moyes is confusing these players, just seeing them running around aimlessly, i felt sorry for them boys. None of them knows what their role is on the pitch, the defenders thinks they are the attackers while the midfielders thinks they the defenders. They say the players are the problem but its clearly the manager. I would certainly not give this man another season, especially with no CL next season we might end up in the second half of the table breaking even more records, not to mention him loaning out a player who clearly had the ability to help out the team and goes off to set up a goal at Cardiff. He has to go.

jimshady (Manchester United): this is so tough to take, substitutions baffled me today! jones off for welbeck with fletcher on the bench? young playing instead of valencia against tough tackling stoke?? gimme valencia any day to stay on his feet and battle!! wheres vidic gone?? rio even? no cb on the bench? 'i know we'll put welbeck on for jones leave fletcher on the bench and put carrick centre half'? what?? so we lost two midfield options along with two defensive options in one swoop and leave cleverly on his own to battle stoke of all teams?? theres only so much mata and rvp and wazza can do when they have the ball but they couldnt get it cos the defence was such a shambles and hiking the ball anywhere!!

united-we-win (Manchester United): Right in any other club it's a results business and if the latter do not happen then sack the manager! But according to tv radio pundits it's different at united there has to be anarchy disharmony a division within the club rightttt so let's keep going hoping it turns around what a load of bull. With the way things are I think we will lose 14-15 games this season utter disaster

130tc (Manchester United): Sigh....he's had long enough to decide on a settled 11..and the best 11. Look at Gus at Sunderland. He hasn't needed a year. Talented managers don't. If we can see it why can't he. Sometimes IT IS obvious. It is just frustrating now. Looking at the team sheet before a match is just becoming painful,and then they take to the field

emicallef (Manchester United): chrispg - most of us who tell it like it is had to undergo some painful times over here,confirmed by hundreds of thumbs down .it is not that we ever felt in any way superior to what you so describe as 'amoebae brains',but it was all so clear except to those who shut their eyes.it is unbelievable that proven and worthy United legends still alive and kicking,could have unwittingly get it so wrong ? or could they ? I know it is always the singer not the song.as the black said, 33% of lost fights is very serious and there is every chance of that number goes higher.but,Giggs has notched 800 and bully for him.and our coach ? stating that he does not know what he has to do to get a win. doesn't that make you very afraid >? i know i am

destroyer (Manchester United): 1Welbeck is horrendous but yet moyes brings him on to play behind persie,, mata assisted rvps goal when in the #10 role! Im trying to give moyes my time and patience but he keeps shooting himself in the foot, why not bring on fletch and leave the front 4 as they are. Also it says it all when rooney is our best CM when asked to fill in, always looking forward looking to penetrate something which tom not so cleverley cannot do to save his life, he is so bad it makes my heart bleed to see talented players like powell zaha and lingard shipped out on loan as they are "not ready" for 1st team, cleverley has NEVER been ready worst midfielder in europe by a distance

zulu united (Manchester United): What do we have to do to win??? Surely that says it all this guy doesn't have a clue, as much as I loved Ferguson he has made a huge mistake with moyes! He not good enough simple when were struggling he doesn't know how to change thing to make it better, we could have signed Harry Redknapp he is a great manager that gets a team playing brilliant attacking football look how he got spurs playing, he can spot talented player n get them motivated look at Bale for example! Sometimes admitting you got it wrong is hard but it takes courage, Mata great player but more is needed. Moyes can't attract the players we need, seriously 8 defeats so far is not good enough he doesn't deserve more time by the time he is finished messing around the whole confidence of the squad will be so low and not easy to turn things like that around. Fergie needs to step in n sort things out before it goes too far if it hasn't alreadyGGMU

garyperera (Manchester United): Enough is enough! If Liverpool win at West Brom we are going to be 9 points off 4th with 14 games remaining. I think we need to face reality Mr Moyes and stop saying we played well. We didn't. We are not going to finish 4th now and that's a fact. We are woefully short of the standard we need to even compete at this level and it doesn't matter who we buy in the summer with this useless manager in charge we will not be successful. One other fact I heard today was that United have not salvaged a single point in the last 10 minutes of any game this season. That is what we are famous for, late turn arounds. I think that shows that the fighting spirit, which Sir Alex's teams were renowned for has completely gone. This season is as good as over

moral (Manchester United): To be out of the running for a champions league spot by February 1st despite having spent 64m big ones on a championship winning side takes some doing. Yes we are all aware that drastic surgery is needed but losing 1 in every 3 league games is unacceptable. I think Moyes was always going to get a minimum 2 years so I think we may have to put up with this until the summer of 2015. If at that stage things are anything like they are now, Moyes will be escorted off the premises

stoney10 (Manchester United): a few of us on here have said this was going to happen for the past year or 2,but we got slated etc.well well well look whats happening,dont say you weren't warned

taj (Manchester United): I think we are in serious trouble, and its painful to watch. Buying mata and playing him wide right...My God. !!!! Any manager who can do that has seriously got problems....cant wait for our super solution Ryan Giggs to start in central midfield next !!!!!

roygbiv (Manchester United): I think managers are often unfairly blamed and too easily disposed of, especially when they have a clear vision of where they are going. David Moys, however, doesn't, so why should HE be given time. Time to do what? I ask. He's been in charge since June and I have yet to see A SINGLE hint of him being capable or worthy of leading our great club. Blips and bad seasons are part and parcel of football but this isn't a blip. This won't be just "one bad season". This is the new norm. This is the new Manchester United. This is what you get after shamefully ignoring facts, failing to deal with glaring weaknesses and hoping that a mediocre manager will perform miracles. Guess what? We're out of miracles. All that's ahead of us is mediocrity

[nottsblue]

Magnificent collection. Thoroughly loved reading about their pain and suffering. Still a long way to go before they even come close to the pain City fans since the 80s have suffered though. Hope it gets worse for the fuckers and a good dose of reality is their prescribed medicine

[Beefymcfc]

You've got to feel sorry for them, languishing all the way down in 7th. Remember that pain when we were fighting it out for a CL spot, only to miss out by some lanky piss-streak? I hope they don't have to go through that pain.

They've still got a chance of winning the league, even though it's an outside chance, and while they're still in all the cups, minus the FA and League, they've still got a chance of a treble. Imagine that, picking up Arsene's 4th place trophy in the league and A CL final win against Olympiakos to go with the prestige of the Charity Shield. Who wouldn't be happy with that?