Moyes-ometer

[patrickblue]

I'd hate to actively look for it but if somebody posted a link I may find myself indulging.

+1

Didn't want to infect the site, but as you asked.

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/ferguson ... on.383611/

[michaelcityfan]

I started to use that link and my phone detected a virus. Perhaps it's the moyes defeat virus I'm very dissapointed with the rags performance I want moyes to do just enough to stay for as long as possible. BUT more important than mid table team woes come on city tomorrow.

[mcfc1632]

you will find the thread on this page - along with many others of a similar theme - e.g., Moyse sack watch.

http://www.redcafe.net/forums/mancheste ... d-forum.6/

It puts the lie to the media view that scum fans are behind Moyse - perhaps the match going fans? but the majority of the fans that use their largest fans forum are clearly not patient and are feeling very pissed. They are obviously not used to difficult times and if there was to be a year or 2 of 'failure' I could see mass desertion.

I am from a generation and part of Manchester that means that my utter hatred of the scum is second only to my love of CITY - so I make no apology for visiting their site to 'wallow' in their 'pain' - which simply demonstrates what a bunch of utterly shallow cunts they are and what a sense of entitlement they have - (hope we do not get like that). I can always take a long shower!

Edited to add: There is thread: How are you guys dealing with this - the OP is from Swansea but lives in Montreal. Not being negative about posters from either Swansea or Montreal - I am sure we have some and they are good guys, but his OP just shows that they have absolutely no idea what differentiates a real supporter from a follower:

"United are a big part of my life and when they do bad, the rest of the week goes horrible for me. Every thing is going great in my life but in the back of my mind, this horror show is eating away at me everyday. This uncertainty of finishing in the top 4 and whether Moyes can turn it around and all that. So wanted to know how the caf members are dealing with it all? "

[Chopper]

Wasnt sure about Moyes at first but he has really won me over with his style and tactics.

[bayblue]

I think these threads are fascinating.
Of course, in the here and now it's good to see them so stressed.
I also like to see the essential schizophrenia that any football fan has, and how in some cases it forces the thinker to adopt a position that is somewhat surreal.

So, for those united fans who can't quite face up to a possibility that:
a. Fergie left them in the lurch, or
b. Moyes is crap

then the only answer left is that c.the big mistake was to let Mike Phelan and Meulensteen go! (There's a scary number of people who seem to think that this is quite a plausible excuse for why they are in the shit position that they are).

Or even better there's a thread on there about how many players at United would get into ours or Chelsea's first team.
The contributors are tying themselves in knots of despairing logic.

Lots of them can't adopt the position that their players aren't good enough and so would argue that at least half a dozen of their team would (my favourite being those who say Rafael is as good as Zaba). Some of the people taking this view then conclude that therefore the issue is the manager, but some others can't quite face this and so their only conclusion ends up back at the absence of good old Mike Phelan.

Long may it continue!

[patrickblue]

It puts the lie to the media view that scum fans are behind Moyse - perhaps the match going fans? but the majority of the fans that use their largest fans forum are clearly not patient and are feeling very pissed. They are obviously not used to difficult times and if there was to be a year or 2 of 'failure' I could see mass desertion.

In fairness nearly all of the ones with the biggest mouths seem to be from SE Asia, interspersed with the occasional one who still can't shed the arrogance.

[AG7]

Anderson: Lots of United players 'want out'
Brazilian midfielder claims other members of David Moyes' squad are looking to leave Old Trafford after he sealed his own move to Italy.

Anderson has claimed a number of his former Manchester United team-mates want to follow him out of the Old Trafford exit.

The Brazilian midfielder signed for Serie A side Fiorentina during the January tranfer window.

And the 25-year-old claims 'lots' of United squad - including Portugal winger Nani - 'want out'.

Anderson said: "I'm sure that lots of players want out, especially players like myself and Nani who have been in Manchester for seven or eight years.

"Manchester United is a huge club, a club that does everything for its players but sometimes a footballer wants to leave just to experience a different way to play football, to learn something as well."

Anderson joined Fiorentina on loan for the rest of the season.

And he revealed he's keen to permanently end his six-and-a-half year stay at United in the summer.

He added: "I am grateful to be here to try and win as many titles as I have in Manchester. Definitely I want to stay here.

"Playing in Manchester was great, it's a prestigious club with a lot of history but I've been there 7 or 8 years and I'm grateful to be here to show Fiorentina what I can do and fight for a spot in the starting lineup.

"I'd like to thanks Manchester United fans for their love but I'm here to stay."

Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-6662992

[john@staustell]

"I'd like to thanks Manchester United fans for their love but I'm here to stay."

Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-6662992

Not if they see the cunt play!

[Chinners]

I'm still not satisfied, I want 0-4+ thrashing from now on Mr Gollum!!!

[DoomMerchant]

"I'd like to thanks Manchester United fans for their love but I'm here to stay."

Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rs-6662992

Not if they see the cunt play!

i thought the same...footballers are so thick. "i want to come here and fight for a place. Also, i'm here to stay." Not if yr crap you retard. Yr on loan.

Amazing.

cheers

[Bianchi on Ice]

It was a masterstroke promoting that kid matata from the academy. Now all he has to do is declare himself english like the home alone with a nandos boy

[RodneyRodney]

"I don't know what we have to do to win," Moyes said after the game.


The Prosecution rests

That's MY type of Mancheter United manager

[bigblue]

He's been a shadow of his former self for a few years but Vidic is now leaving at the end of the year:

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Featu ... ign=ManUtd

Apparently after seeing moysey in action he's realized that the rags won't be a place to gently play out your last few seasons while winning a trophy or two... Will be another signing that they have to make as well.

Also - they have one of the worst website that I've ever come across.

[Slim]

He's been a shadow of his former self for a few years but Vidic is now leaving at the end of the year:

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Featu ... ign=ManUtd

Apparently after seeing moysey in action he's realized that the rags won't be a place to gently play out your last few seasons while winning a trophy or two... Will be another signing that they have to make as well.

Also - they have one of the worst website that I've ever come across.

I read a story earlier that said Moyes insists it was both his and Vidic's decision for him to leave.

Anyone buying that? Also, bridge for sale, cheap!

[Ted Hughes]

Big day for him tomorrow, up against another budding managerial genius.

[Twobob]

Big day for him tomorrow, up against another budding managerial genius.

A six-pointer

[MilnersJaw]

I'm worries Moyes will lose (again) and get sacked. I honestly think one or two more losses will cause his p45.

[Twobob]

I'm worries Moyes will lose (again) and get sacked. I honestly think one or two more losses will cause his p45.

Nah, it has been communicated that he will win this game, queue the 'back on track for title challenge' quotes when he scrapes it 1-0 to keep him in the office just where we want him.

He hasn't yet done enough damage to allow him to lose against Fulham.

[Blue Since 76]

Nah, it has been communicated that he will win this game, queue the 'back on track for title challenge' quotes when he scrapes it 1-0 to keep him in the office just where we want him.

He hasn't yet done enough damage to allow him to lose against Fulham.

That's the great thing - they keep getting really easy games when they need them to make sure the media can say they're back on track. I'm struggling to decide whether I'd prefer them to get beat in Europe by Olympiakos, or destroyed by Bayern, Real, Dortmund, PSG, Barca or us in the next round.

[MilnersJaw]

That's the great thing - they keep getting really easy games when they need them to make sure the media can say they're back on track. I'm struggling to decide whether I'd prefer them to get beat in Europe by Olympiakos, or destroyed by Bayern, Real, Dortmund, PSG, Barca or us in the next round.

I want them to play Bayern. Would be hilarious over two legs.