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Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Chinners » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:51 am

Q&A: Fred Done slams the Glazers, hails the Sheikh and demands change at his beloved United

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Bookie king Fred Done talks to M.u.E.N. Sport Editor Peter Spencer about all that is wrong at Old Trafford - and right at the Etihad

Self-made Salford millionaire bookie Fred Done has been a United fan all his life.

He was approached by a consortium three times to buy the club, his firm are the Reds’ former betting partner and he is close friends with Sir Alex Ferguson.

In an emotional, hour-long interview with M.u.E.N. Sport editor Peter Spencer, Fred revealed how United’s slump is breaking his heart and how the Reds could do worse than taking a leaf out of City’s book.

Here, Mike Keegan picks out the explosive best bits.

PS: Are City now a bigger club than United?

FD: If I look at United I see captions claiming they are the biggest club in the world. I do not believe that for one minute. I don’t think they are in the top half dozen and if they are not careful they will slip down that ladder quickly. I hear arrogant talk about how United don’t need to play well and win to pull crowds. You watch. I sit at Old Trafford and see strangers around me where you used to see the same faces week in week out. They are not selling the tickets believe me.

City are murdering them. Sheikh Mansour has done fantastic for City as a club and for the city of Manchester. What’s different about them? Sheikh Mansour does not care about a return on his money. The Glazers want dividends. He’s put all the facilities in. They take the kids to school, pay their fees. The large majority won’t make it but what does Sheikh Mansour do? He carries on paying for schooling until they have left even if they haven’t made it. What do United do for the community? In my opinion not enough. When you talk about biggest in world United don’t measure up to Barcelona, Real Madrid, or Bayern Munich and in footballing terms they are not as good as Chelsea or City. Look at what’s happened at Liverpool. The last time they won the title was 1990. I hope it doesn’t take United 24 years to come back.

PS: It’s crunch time for David Moyes. Should they stick with him and was he the right man in the first place?

FD: He was Alex Ferguson’s choice. Hand on heart did I agree? Absolutely. His record at Everton was very good and I liked the stability. It’s much too early to talk about sackings. I think he is a decent man who has been dealt a bad hand and he has not been able to change that hand yet. This season is a complete write-off. If I was on the board would I give him more rope? Yes. But the Glazer family have to get the wallet out. I have not enjoyed one match at Old Trafford this season. We just don’t look a team.

PS: What about Mourinho?

FD: With the benefit of hindsight, and we can all be clever after the event, I wish we’d have got Jose Mourinho.

PS: What advice would you give to David Moyes?

FD: One of the things I would say is stop apologising for everything. You saw him slouched in his seat at Olympiakos. That looks like a defeated man. Sit up straight, David, and don’t do that nonsense. Stop apologising for players who are not good enough. Change them. Next season be ruthless. You have to dismantle this team. I don’t expect you to be Premier League champions next season or the year after. You need seven or eight players because they are just not good enough. Get the knife out. You don’t make omelettes without breaking eggs. Break some eggs.

PS: When did you first get interested in United?

FD: I don’t think you had much choice of supporting anyone else if you came from Ordsall! At the age of seven I went for the first time just as the Babes were emerging. I have a picture of Duncan Edwards in my gym and when I am slacking I look at it and think would Duncan give up? United are ingrained in me.

PS: What was the real story with you and the Red Knights?

FD: I was asked on three occasions would I join. If I wanted United I would want to own it for myself. I don’t want to be a Red Knight, I want to be a red footballer. Jim O’Neill (the Gatley-born ecoomist who led the group) is a shrewd guy whose love is United, unlike the Glazers. The Glazers are smart business people who pulled off a real coup for themselves. They sneaked up on United and bought it quietly and almost totally on debt. That’s very clever. Their main concern is paying debt down and taking dividends out. To the Glazers it’s purely and simply a financial instrument. It breaks my heart that they’re sat in Florida while 70,000 who love the club are paying for their debt and dividends and are not seeing a good team. We’re watching rubbish.

PS: If you had your time again and could see into the future would you have bought United?

FD: Absolutely, but I would have bought it for the wrong reasons, for love rather than as a commercial enterprise.

PS: What are you thoughts on Ed Woodward?

FD: He talks the talk but I don’t know if he can walk the walk. They talk about spending £100m. I don’t know if that’s enough.

PS: Why can you not get something moving? Why can’t you act as a catalyst for change?

FD: Because we have got lives to run as well. The £2bn that is needed wants a lot of raising. I think the Glazers have a long-term objective but when the right cheque is waved at them they will go. It will take an Arab sheikh or a Russian oligarch to do it because I don’t believe 40 people will raise that money. Would I spend £2bn? No.

PS: Have you considered switching allegiance to City?

FD: I am never going to go to City and you know that! I’m foreign when I go there. What I will say is that when you do go there is everything from the catering to what’s on the pitch is better than United at the moment.

PS: Will United qualify for the Champions League?

FD: No

PS: Who will win the Premier League?

FD: City.

PS: Should they bring Sir Alex back?

FD: No
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:04 pm

Cheers Chinners, thats a very hand on heart interview without any blinkers. I only know one or two reds who are like that and see the real truth, most are complete dicks TBH. sounds like he wont be paying out early on utd winning anything any time soon.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby nottsblue » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:27 pm

I reckon there will be a lot like come next season. Refreshingly honest to be fair. The underlying tone is worrying they'll end up like the dippers and fade away
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:59 pm

If they go down the route of 'giving Moyes time' I think they will be fucked & may never recover.

If they act decisively now & spend huge money, I believe, unfortunately, they will be back in the thick of things very quickly.

They will never dominate again like they have under Ferguson though. That was a freak set of circumstances brought about by the creation of the Premier League & the Champions Lg, just at the prefect time for them. And more recently the timidity of their opponents who were all beaten before the season started.

If Ferguson was still at Utd, I firmly believe Liverpool & Arsenal would have caved in months ago.

That situation will never happen again with Utd, mainly because even if all the others caved in again, we will still be coming back for more, every year, forever.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:08 pm

Very interesting. When it mentioned his heart break at the top I thought it would be the usual bollocks from a spoilt fan unable to take one poor season, but he does see some of the long term trends and is rightfully more worried about them than what's happening on the field today.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:18 pm

What are the odds on him throwing himself from a tall building?
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:26 pm

Come back when you've had 20 odd years of misery whilst City win everything, then you can have a right to have a moan.

Oh, and remember to look happy all the time too otherwise you may be accused of being a bit bitter.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Dubciteh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:45 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:Come back when you've had 20 odd years of misery whilst City win everything, then you can have a right to have a moan.

Oh, and remember to look happy all the time too otherwise you may be accused of being a bit bitter.


Spot on for me too!
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:59 pm

Wealthy Rag Knob crying, Fantastic. Fuck em..
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:01 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Wealthy Rag Knob crying, Fantastic. Fuck em..


Two in a month, Moyes will be gone after the dippers spank em, I was told today.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Burt » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:53 pm

If he's such good mates with Taggart then why hasn't he admitted to telling the old purple nosed, bitter cunt that it was all his fault that he sucked up to Agent Glazers and wound the team down over the last few years?

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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:17 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Wealthy Rag Knob crying, Fantastic. Fuck em..


Two in a month, Moyes will be gone after the dippers spank em, I was told today.

Two reasons to support the rags for this match, then.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby mcfc1632 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:56 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Wealthy Rag Knob crying, Fantastic. Fuck em..


Two in a month, Moyes will be gone after the dippers spank em, I was told today.

Two reasons to support the rags for this match, then.



Nooo - does not work like that (at least for me).

Hope red scouse fuck them over big time, whether that means anything in the scum management decisions or not. It is our job to take care of the red scouse - fuck the scum - now and forever
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby MilnersJaw » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:52 pm

mcfc1632 wrote:
Nooo - does not work like that (at least for me).

Hope red scouse fuck them over big time, whether that means anything in the scum management decisions or not. It is our job to take care of the red scouse - fuck the scum - now and forever


Unfortunately we need dippers to drop points. Hopefully Moyes can pull a miracle and not lose.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby dikdok » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:59 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:Come back when you've had 20 odd years of misery whilst City win everything, then you can have a right to have a moan.

Oh, and remember to look happy all the time too otherwise you may be accused of being a bit bitter.



Only 20 years!?! I used to dream of only 20 years!! After '76 and '77 runners up, I thought the world was ours for the taking.

Ah me... I'm one sad old git....
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:10 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Wealthy Rag Knob crying, Fantastic. Fuck em..


Exactly; just another squealing Scum-lover.

If he had any decency, he'd throw himself in the river and never surface.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:07 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If they go down the route of 'giving Moyes time' I think they will be fucked & may never recover. If they act decisively now & spend huge money, I believe, unfortunately, they will be back in the thick of things very quickly. They will never dominate again like they have under Ferguson though. That was a freak set of circumstances brought about by the creation of the Premier League & the Champions Lg, just at the prefect time for them. And more recently the timidity of their opponents who were all beaten before the season started. If Ferguson was still at Utd, I firmly believe Liverpool & Arsenal would have caved in months ago. That situation will never happen again with Utd, mainly because even if all the others caved in again, we will still be coming back for more, every year, forever.


Exactly how I see it Ted, let's just hope that scouse don't dick them, it'll will be double bonus if they can draw. I don't know owt about this Fred bloke, has been a rag since birth or just since he made shit loads of money out of people betting on them?
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:42 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Two reasons to support the rags for this match, then.


I'm with you on this one. Improves our chances and hopefully gives him summer and £200m of debt to spend on more number 10s whilst ignoring the rest of the team
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:41 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Two reasons to support the rags for this match, then.


I'm with you on this one. Improves our chances and hopefully gives him summer and £200m of debt to spend on more number 10s whilst ignoring the rest of the team

Presumably he thinks he got enough number 2s in the team.
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Re: Q&A with Fred Done

Postby gillie » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:08 pm

It's just another cry to give Gollum time because they don't sack managers.Check how many they sacked before Bacon.
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