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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:15 am

For football reasons, Suarez probably deserves POTY as, for a spell, he was playing at a quite incredible level, almost 'Roy OF The Rovers' stuff where almost everything he hit from every angle, hit the target. It was uncanny at times.

Also at times, during that spell, he was playing so well that he almost got through some of the games without cheating, almost. Just stuck his leg out once or twice to initiate contact & win pens, but Sturridge was doing exactly the same & that's just tradition at Liverpool anyway.

Against us, he struggled to get free of our defenders, so he went running towards Demichelis, chucked himself over & tried to get him sent off.

If that's ok in football & all that matters is the goals, then that says a lot about football & the kind of people who are attracted to it; basically that it is not in fact a 'sport' at all.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby sheblue » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:15 am

yaya should have got it.
the biting cheating diving racist is over rated because he doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.
where as yaya clearly is a big game player.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby CTID Hants » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:35 am

sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:00 am

CTID Hants wrote:
sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.


With 19 goals & 6 assists from a bloke who spends half the game in front of our back 4, or creating play from deep with more passes than most players in the Premier League, you would have to imagine that Yaya has indeed got a very good chance of winning the writer's player of the year should City win the league & possibly the player's poty next season, as they vote much earlier.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:05 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.


With 19 goals & 6 assists from a bloke who spends half the game in front of our back 4, or creating play from deep with more passes than most players in the Premier League, you would have to imagine that Yaya has indeed got a very good chance of winning the writer's player of the year should City win the league & possibly the player's poty next season, as they vote much earlier.


Agreed, I think Yaya will get the football writers award. I dont know why people are not questioning Suarez's record against the better defences. I think he is a very good striker but 5 goals against the top 8 teams is a pretty poor return when you consider his strike rate against the rest.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:45 am

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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby littlebig » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:59 am

Deserves it in fairness. Yes he's an odious character but that shouldn't come into it.

It is disappointing though that his cheating goes unpunished, the authorities should implement retrospective actions for this blight on the game which would quickly eradicate it.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:24 pm

littlebig wrote:Deserves it in fairness. Yes he's an odious character but that shouldn't come into it.

It is disappointing though that his cheating goes unpunished, the authorities should implement retrospective actions for this blight on the game which would quickly eradicate it.


He will be Teflon now. The Premier League needs players to keep the cash cow mooing, he is that type, still cheats never prosper.....
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:37 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
littlebig wrote:Deserves it in fairness. Yes he's an odious character but that shouldn't come into it.

It is disappointing though that his cheating goes unpunished, the authorities should implement retrospective actions for this blight on the game which would quickly eradicate it.


He will be Teflon now. The Premier League needs players to keep the cash cow mooing, he is that type, still cheats never prosper.....


Really?
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:41 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.


With 19 goals & 6 assists from a bloke who spends half the game in front of our back 4, or creating play from deep with more passes than most players in the Premier League, you would have to imagine that Yaya has indeed got a very good chance of winning the writer's player of the year should City win the league & possibly the player's poty next season, as they vote much earlier.


Agreed, I think Yaya will get the football writers award. I dont know why people are not questioning Suarez's record against the better defences. I think he is a very good striker but 5 goals against the top 8 teams is a pretty poor return when you consider his strike rate against the rest.

Just because he doesn't score doesn't necessarily mean he's had a bad game. When they tonked Arsenal he was superb, hit the post from about 40 yards, set up a couple but didn't score.

Also scoring a shit ton of goals against the weaker sides is not to be under-estimated. It's often dropping points to the weaker sides that cost teams the title. You can account for losing a couple of games to top sides.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:50 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.


With 19 goals & 6 assists from a bloke who spends half the game in front of our back 4, or creating play from deep with more passes than most players in the Premier League, you would have to imagine that Yaya has indeed got a very good chance of winning the writer's player of the year should City win the league & possibly the player's poty next season, as they vote much earlier.


Agreed, I think Yaya will get the football writers award. I dont know why people are not questioning Suarez's record against the better defences. I think he is a very good striker but 5 goals against the top 8 teams is a pretty poor return when you consider his strike rate against the rest.

Just because he doesn't score doesn't necessarily mean he's had a bad game. When they tonked Arsenal he was superb, hit the post from about 40 yards, set up a couple but didn't score.

Also scoring a shit ton of goals against the weaker sides is not to be under-estimated. It's often dropping points to the weaker sides that cost teams the title. You can account for losing a couple of games to top sides.


Or

he is not as effective against better defenders? I am not saying he is crap, but it is quite a telling stat
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby sheblue » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:10 pm

in considering who is 'player' of the season, professionalism, sportsmanship and character are huge parts of being a great player in my opinion. mr suarez falls down in many of these departments. its not just about scoring goals or playing really well, young kids are looking at this guy and his behavior influences them. what a wonderful role model he is.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby sheblue » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:14 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
sheblue wrote:the biting cheating diving racist .


Change the fucking record will you??

sheblue wrote:doesnt do it in big games, just scores plenty against the cannon fodder.


You mean like Cardiff, Vlla & Hull like we didn't

sheblue wrote:yaya should have got it.

where as yaya clearly is a big game player.


You mean like his outstanding performance home to Chelsea??? & wasn't the only game he went missing in this season.Take your blue tinted glasses off. As much as i don't like Suarez as a man, this award is the PLAYERS PLAYER Of The Year, voted by the players themselves based on FOOTBALL alone.

30 goals, 15 assists to date from 31 premier games (he didn't score in any of their 4 cup games).

YaYa has had a good season for us, but you always get that feeling that if he tried a little harder in some games he might of be in with a real chance of winning rather than just being nominated.


it is possible to pick particular incidents to suit all day long, but look at the overall picture. Yes of course he has scored lots and played well, but there is a side to him that i do not like and its clear for all to see.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:15 pm

That 5 goals against the top 8 stat is wrong.

He has 7 in 12 games against the top 8, only played the Rags and Saints once each because of his ban.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:19 pm

we beat Everton, he implodes and gets a red. Cheating bastard even with a Tux on..
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:21 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
Or

he is not as effective against better defenders? I am not saying he is crap, but it is quite a telling stat

Well any player is going to score more against worse defences. It's not really telling. Surely that's obvious? The fact he scores less against better teams is in no way surprising, in fact it would be weird if a player were to score more against good teams than the lesser teams.
As pointed out he has 7 goals in 12 games against the top 8. Not awful by any means.

I think people sometimes get a little bit too obsessed with 'big games'. It's not the big games where you lose the title, it's the small games. If we are to lose the title it will be the losses against Villa, Cardiff and Sunderland and the draws with Sunderland and Norwich.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby JamieMCFC » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:14 pm

sheblue wrote:in considering who is 'player' of the season, professionalism, sportsmanship and character are huge parts of being a great player in my opinion. mr suarez falls down in many of these departments. its not just about scoring goals or playing really well, young kids are looking at this guy and his behavior influences them. what a wonderful role model he is.


Well you are wrong. This isn't a fucking humanitarian award. Every one is always looking for some type of advantage. Some just take it farther than others.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:52 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:
sheblue wrote:in considering who is 'player' of the season, professionalism, sportsmanship and character are huge parts of being a great player in my opinion. mr suarez falls down in many of these departments. its not just about scoring goals or playing really well, young kids are looking at this guy and his behavior influences them. what a wonderful role model he is.


Well you are wrong. This isn't a fucking humanitarian award. Every one is always looking for some type of advantage. Some just take it farther than others.


The mans a cunt Fact.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:
sheblue wrote:in considering who is 'player' of the season, professionalism, sportsmanship and character are huge parts of being a great player in my opinion. mr suarez falls down in many of these departments. its not just about scoring goals or playing really well, young kids are looking at this guy and his behavior influences them. what a wonderful role model he is.


Well you are wrong. This isn't a fucking humanitarian award. Every one is always looking for some type of advantage. Some just take it farther than others.


The mans a cunt Fact.
I agree,a despicable cheating cunt.

That first video says it all.Stands on Vinny metatarsal and goes down seriously wtf.
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Re: Suarez Player Off The Season

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:19 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Or

he is not as effective against better defenders? I am not saying he is crap, but it is quite a telling stat

Well any player is going to score more against worse defences. It's not really telling. Surely that's obvious? The fact he scores less against better teams is in no way surprising, in fact it would be weird if a player were to score more against good teams than the lesser teams.
As pointed out he has 7 goals in 12 games against the top 8. Not awful by any means.

I think people sometimes get a little bit too obsessed with 'big games'. It's not the big games where you lose the title, it's the small games. If we are to lose the title it will be the losses against Villa, Cardiff and Sunderland and the draws with Sunderland and Norwich.


I disagree! If Suarez would have turned up and liverpool would have beaten Chelsea, they would be nailed on for the league.
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