Rooney...end of the line?

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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:18 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:It will be interesting to see how Rooney goes from here, not just for England but for the rags too.

I think he has been one of the best players in the Prem, but he wasn't last season, & he's had some right shitty spells in recent seasons, particularly since Ferguson ran him into the dirt a few years back & played him injured every week.

Scholes saying Rooney could be 'worn out' & past his peak could just be a trick to get him playing, but it seemed like a genuine question from someone who sees him close up.

Of course it will be hilarious if true, as they have just signed him for 5 years on fucking fortunes.

I don't think it was a 'trick' tbh. Either Scholes or Rooney, can't remember which recently gave an interview where they said they weren't particularly close and didn't have each other's number. Don't think Scholes is like that, seems a fairly honest guy tbh.
Also quite liked how he tore into Jack Wilshire the other week calling him a complete waste of talent.

Anyway I repeat, Rooney has two games to save his England career. If he performs like he can and pulls England through (unlikely I know) then keep him around, if not it really will be time for him to go.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Original Dub » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:19 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:ever heard the classic line "Let's take this to PM."?

No one cares, you outrageously interesting dildonic duo. Lock it up.

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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:It will be interesting to see how Rooney goes from here, not just for England but for the rags too.

I think he has been one of the best players in the Prem, but he wasn't last season, & he's had some right shitty spells in recent seasons, particularly since Ferguson ran him into the dirt a few years back & played him injured every week.

Scholes saying Rooney could be 'worn out' & past his peak could just be a trick to get him playing, but it seemed like a genuine question from someone who sees him close up.

Of course it will be hilarious if true, as they have just signed him for 5 years on fucking fortunes.


Most players get around 12 years at the top level, unless they really look after themselves. That's usually 20-32 and then age takes them, but I suspect for a lot it's as much the years of stress on the body as much as the pure age. Shrek has been playing for about 12 years already and is heavy set even when fit. The abuse every summer hardly helps.

I think he's virtually finished and whilst you may get the occasional good game out of him, they'll become fewer.

He may play well tomorrow (for once for England) but I don't see him doing it in every game. However, he'll start in the position he wants tomorrow and it could be his last chance if he doesn't show the quality he's had

The fact he's one of the world's best paid players with a long contract is hilarious, as I suspect he'll be their Danny Mills within a season.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:02 pm

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Rooney isnt stinking the place out, he wasnt good enough played out of position, therefore he should be played where he is proven to be effective.

I personally would put Rooney in the number 10 role behind Sturridge and put Sterling on the left as you'd get much more out of Rooney and Sterling is proven to be excellent on the left too.

You may not like the lad for who he plays for but some of us can see past the fact that he is a red twat and appreciate that he is the best we have, some of us can't, and these people are pathetic little pricks who need to give their head a wobble.

I will never support or cheer on Rooney, I will never celebrate when he scores, but I can't slag off the lad and call for his head when it isnt deserved.


So on form, either for the rags or England over the last 12 months, should he play? He could be the best we have, he could be one of the best in the world, but we've been saying that since he was 16 and it's not happened yet. World class on his day, but so is Balotelli.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:06 pm

It's a bit pathetic, isn't it? The media, who are supposed to be supporting our team, have really pushed the 'Exclusion' piece with Rooney or at least asked where he should be playing.

I feel sorry for him in one respect that he is just another bloke trying to play his game but under huge pressure. However, that's contrasted with the fact that he's sold his soul to ensure he gets maximum wonga from his sponsorships etc. I suppose it's the devil you know but he's just not got the balance right.

They say you are only as good as your last game (obviously media speak) but if he doesn't show tomorrow, in his preferred position, then he's a dead man walking.

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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:57 am

What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Scatman » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:20 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:16 am

Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?


there are certainly some exceptional world class players that would never have that opportunity
George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah is one such player
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Scatman » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:18 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?


there are certainly some exceptional world class players that would never have that opportunity
George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah is one such player


I can think of another Ousman that never got to play in a world cup
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:59 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?


there are certainly some exceptional world class players that would never have that opportunity
George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah is one such player


You get my point though. Rooney never really proved himself at the big stage.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:26 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?


there are certainly some exceptional world class players that would never have that opportunity
George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah is one such player


You get my point though. Rooney never really proved himself at the big stage.


how many england players have??
rooney joins a long list of players who can deliver in the premier and champions league but can't for their country...
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:49 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
You get my point though. Rooney never really proved himself at the big stage.


You could accuse Messi of that though and many do, yet it'd be unfair to say he's not world class. However, I agree that Shrek hasn't proved himself and is one of a number who've never/rarely shown their club form for England, whether it be Barnes or Gerrard.

I think Shrek will start at number 10 tonight, but it could be his last chance in this world Cup if he fails again
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby MilnersJaw » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:26 pm

once england go crashing out, the media will finally turn on this overpaid michelin man.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby city72 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:56 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:once england go crashing out, the media will finally turn on this overpaid michelin man.


Fuking doom merchant , come on England let's smash them tonight, I'm well up for it 4 - 0 come on!!!
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:12 pm

city72 wrote:
MilnersJaw wrote:once england go crashing out, the media will finally turn on this overpaid michelin man.


Fuking doom merchant , come on England let's smash them tonight, I'm well up for it 4 - 0 come on!!!


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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:36 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Even the Welsh ones that never get a chance?


there are certainly some exceptional world class players that would never have that opportunity
George Tawlon Manneh Oppong Ousman Weah is one such player


You get my point though. Rooney never really proved himself at the big stage.


how many england players have??
rooney joins a long list of players who can deliver in the premier and champions league but can't for their country...


Take Shearer for example. Genuinely world class finisher in his time and managed to do it in big tournament as well. Whatever you think of John Terry, he was one of the best around and played well in 2006 world cup. Gary Lineker and Paul Gascoigne in 90's.
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:51 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Oh, you finish your meltdown and no one else is allowed to have one??


Who's finished?

And it wasn't even a meltdown. I was just suggesting things to make the site aore beautiful place where we could all coexist peacefully.

Is all.

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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:30 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Who's finished?

And it wasn't even a meltdown. I was just suggesting things to make the site aore beautiful place where we could all coexist peacefully.

Is all.

Cheers


The day we co exist peacefully is the day I'm out of here.

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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby nottsblue » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:44 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:What has Rooney done in major competition in past ten years? It's not that Rooney hasn't been decent player for you over the years but it's more about completely unwarranted personal cult he has gained mainly for his performances rags. True world stars shine on biggest stage. Rooney was NEVER truly one of the greats. Very good player though.


Agree with this. He is a great player at club level, over 200 goals for rags is testament to that. He has scored in Champs league a plenty.

However, though he has 39 goals for England, he has none in the World cup and 1 in the last two Euros. In addition the assist for Stuuridges goal on Saturday was his first!! Simply not the record of a supposed world class player. Cream rises so they say. Shrek is more semi-skinned these days I'm afraid.

Big game for him tonight. Another annonymous game in a defeat and it could well be his last. Equally, can see him scoring a couple and cementing his place for the rest of the tournament
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Re: Rooney...end of the line?

Postby zuricity » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:44 pm

Original Dub wrote:
The day we co exist peacefully is the day I'm out of here.

Bunch of cunts


Oy ! i resemble that remark.
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