Manager of your choice

[bayblue]

Pellers or Pep.
I actually have confidence in Khaldoon that the choice is as clear as this. Benitez/ Ancelotti/ whoever - no thanks.

[foreverblue]

I'd take Mancini back as long as he had a proper number 2 who the players could run to and cry after he tore them a new one for being pathetic.

[sheblue]

The man in black Carlo Anchovies will be sacked now, it's a certainty. Wonder will we go for him, he will be a free agent.
I like him as a manager.

[DoomMerchant]

Thinking about pep today and it made me wonder outside of jose is there anyone who really gurantees trophies?

Pep has had two of the best sides of the Last decade. It would be a bigger shock if he hadn't won anything. Nobody else springs to mind as someone you just know will win stuff. Most top names I can think of built a club from nearly there the top. Not many simply come in and win no matter where it may be.

For that reason I don't want a change this season. Just my two cents

i think there are some clubs right now who can guarantee some trophies...Jose was trophyless last season and won the double this season. That's so 2014. Been there, done that. He's just chasing City. :)

Juve, Madrid, Barca, Munich are the clubs who can sign up for a trophy of some sort in August and pretty much guarantee one.

everything else is down to the squad assembled and the style coupled with a pinch or two of luck.

You or Patrick Vieira could manage the above four teams to a trophy every year, easy peasy for the next 3-5 years. No problemo, compadre.

I struggled a bit as i like Anchovies a lot and during our shite spring i wanted a revolution of some sort. I've cooled my jets now and am more reasonable. Winning a few matches does that for us i suppose. The plan for me now...has to be Count plus Patrick in a coupla seasons OR Pep. Nothing else makes sense. And i prefer the form option because I think Patrick can be an even bigger draw than Pep just because of his storied career splashed on the front page. These kids nowadays watched him like a hero in his heyday. You can bet the best of the best will sign up to play for him.

cheers

It's time to admit defeat on anchovies. It's up there with twos for nickname strength.

What about if we sign paddy to the top job and he's clueless? We'd get one window maybe of ppl wanting to come and that's not guranteed. Footballers and agents and parents are greedy these days, I honestly don't get where this notion of them signing to play for paddy v comes from. Look at the hazard saga, that's a modern footballer. Which players do we think are dying to come play for him as opposed to wanting cash and glory?

It's anchovies. Stop fighting me.

The hazard sitch was his pops looking for a payday and us saying no, allegedly.

Paddy isn't some insane risk dude. He's going to be an amazing manager. I can feel it. Agree to disagree and fuck off on the topic?

Cheers

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Thinking about pep today and it made me wonder outside of jose is there anyone who really gurantees trophies?

Pep has had two of the best sides of the Last decade. It would be a bigger shock if he hadn't won anything. Nobody else springs to mind as someone you just know will win stuff. Most top names I can think of built a club from nearly there the top. Not many simply come in and win no matter where it may be.

For that reason I don't want a change this season. Just my two cents

i think there are some clubs right now who can guarantee some trophies...Jose was trophyless last season and won the double this season. That's so 2014. Been there, done that. He's just chasing City. :)

Juve, Madrid, Barca, Munich are the clubs who can sign up for a trophy of some sort in August and pretty much guarantee one.

everything else is down to the squad assembled and the style coupled with a pinch or two of luck.

You or Patrick Vieira could manage the above four teams to a trophy every year, easy peasy for the next 3-5 years. No problemo, compadre.

I struggled a bit as i like Anchovies a lot and during our shite spring i wanted a revolution of some sort. I've cooled my jets now and am more reasonable. Winning a few matches does that for us i suppose. The plan for me now...has to be Count plus Patrick in a coupla seasons OR Pep. Nothing else makes sense. And i prefer the form option because I think Patrick can be an even bigger draw than Pep just because of his storied career splashed on the front page. These kids nowadays watched him like a hero in his heyday. You can bet the best of the best will sign up to play for him.

cheers

It's time to admit defeat on anchovies. It's up there with twos for nickname strength.

What about if we sign paddy to the top job and he's clueless? We'd get one window maybe of ppl wanting to come and that's not guranteed. Footballers and agents and parents are greedy these days, I honestly don't get where this notion of them signing to play for paddy v comes from. Look at the hazard saga, that's a modern footballer. Which players do we think are dying to come play for him as opposed to wanting cash and glory?

It's anchovies. Stop fighting me.

The hazard sitch was his pops looking for a payday and us saying no, allegedly.

Paddy isn't some insane risk dude. He's going to be an amazing manager. I can feel it. Agree to disagree and fuck off on the topic?

Cheers

Fuck Id admit defeat if you just drop anchovies.

I don't disagree that he can do the job, I disagree with the assumption he can. That's my only gripe. There's no middle ground with anything on here. A player is a world beater or league two quality. World class or hopelessly overrated, managers are geniuses or clueless.

My opinion is he might one day be top drawer, but I want a fuck load more evidence before taking the risk. Far from controversial but I've gotten used to this winning shit malarkey.

[Wonderwall]

I cant believe so many posters are putting hopes in PV. With no management experience, it would be a huge gamble.

I am in this camp too

[Wonderwall]

The man in black Carlo Anchovies will be sacked now, it's a certainty. Wonder will we go for him, he will be a free agent.
I like him as a manager.

Liverpool would be in for him without a doubt, Klopp and Anchovies will be scrapping over Brendas Job, its true, ask any scouser

[Moonchesteri]

Thinking about pep today and it made me wonder outside of jose is there anyone who really gurantees trophies?

Pep has had two of the best sides of the Last decade. It would be a bigger shock if he hadn't won anything. Nobody else springs to mind as someone you just know will win stuff. Most top names I can think of built a club from nearly there the top. Not many simply come in and win no matter where it may be.

For that reason I don't want a change this season. Just my two cents

i think there are some clubs right now who can guarantee some trophies...Jose was trophyless last season and won the double this season. That's so 2014. Been there, done that. He's just chasing City. :)

Juve, Madrid, Barca, Munich are the clubs who can sign up for a trophy of some sort in August and pretty much guarantee one.

everything else is down to the squad assembled and the style coupled with a pinch or two of luck.

You or Patrick Vieira could manage the above four teams to a trophy every year, easy peasy for the next 3-5 years. No problemo, compadre.

I struggled a bit as i like Anchovies a lot and during our shite spring i wanted a revolution of some sort. I've cooled my jets now and am more reasonable. Winning a few matches does that for us i suppose. The plan for me now...has to be Count plus Patrick in a coupla seasons OR Pep. Nothing else makes sense. And i prefer the form option because I think Patrick can be an even bigger draw than Pep just because of his storied career splashed on the front page. These kids nowadays watched him like a hero in his heyday. You can bet the best of the best will sign up to play for him.

cheers

They also watched Mourinho win here, there and everywhere. They also watched Pep build the amazing Barca team (that is how it is portrayed no matter how you say the seeds were put in place earlier). When the kids look up for managers who to play for will they want to play for those two or for someone who they looked up to as a player?

it could work but it is a gamble. I have a feeling though that he is part of our owners blueprint. Count next season, Pep then (Vieira as 2nd?) and then..?

[Moonchesteri]

Thinking about pep today and it made me wonder outside of jose is there anyone who really gurantees trophies?

Pep has had two of the best sides of the Last decade. It would be a bigger shock if he hadn't won anything. Nobody else springs to mind as someone you just know will win stuff. Most top names I can think of built a club from nearly there the top. Not many simply come in and win no matter where it may be.

For that reason I don't want a change this season. Just my two cents

i think there are some clubs right now who can guarantee some trophies...Jose was trophyless last season and won the double this season. That's so 2014. Been there, done that. He's just chasing City. :)

Juve, Madrid, Barca, Munich are the clubs who can sign up for a trophy of some sort in August and pretty much guarantee one.

everything else is down to the squad assembled and the style coupled with a pinch or two of luck.

You or Patrick Vieira could manage the above four teams to a trophy every year, easy peasy for the next 3-5 years. No problemo, compadre.

I struggled a bit as i like Anchovies a lot and during our shite spring i wanted a revolution of some sort. I've cooled my jets now and am more reasonable. Winning a few matches does that for us i suppose. The plan for me now...has to be Count plus Patrick in a coupla seasons OR Pep. Nothing else makes sense. And i prefer the form option because I think Patrick can be an even bigger draw than Pep just because of his storied career splashed on the front page. These kids nowadays watched him like a hero in his heyday. You can bet the best of the best will sign up to play for him.

cheers

They also watched Mourinho win here, there and everywhere. They also watched Pep build the amazing Barca team (that is how it is portrayed no matter how you say the seeds were put in place earlier). When the kids look up for managers who to play for will they want to play for those two or for someone who they looked up to as a player?

it could work but it is a gamble. I have a feeling though that he is part of our owners blueprint. Count next season, Pep then (Vieira as 2nd?) and then..?

[Ted Hughes]

I think it's as near as dammit certain that is what the plan is (was ?). Whether Pep is on board or just on the wishlist or whether it will happen sooner is the question. And imo whether the Count will leave the club or be given another job, perhaps in his part of the world. I have no evidence for that other than just the fact that he seems to me, to be part of the decision making team, rather than just a football manager. I just get the feeling he has been in on this from the start.

[Wonderwall]

I think it's as near as dammit certain that is what the plan is (was ?). Whether Pep is on board or just on the wishlist or whether it will happen sooner is the question. And imo whether the Count will leave the club or be given another job, perhaps in his part of the world. I have no evidence for that other than just the fact that he seems to me, to be part of the decision making team, rather than just a football manager. I just get the feeling he has been in on this from the start.

maybe the Vieira trip to Bayern was for Vieira to talk about the youth Development he would like to have for when he takes over and for PV to ensure that model is being implemented in time for his arrival?

[PrezIke]

Manuel Pellegrini set to stay as Manchester City manager next season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ext-season

Bit of a break down of the signings made by Txiki as well, and the dealings with agents/3rd party ownerships involved.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

Manuel Pellegrini set to stay as Manchester City manager next season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ext-season

Bit of a break down of the signings made by Txiki as well, and the dealings with agents/3rd party ownerships involved.

Not a bad article, no gratuitous slagging us off. I can't say I would enjoy negotiating with that maze of agents.

[Wonderwall]

Manuel Pellegrini set to stay as Manchester City manager next season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ext-season

Bit of a break down of the signings made by Txiki as well, and the dealings with agents/3rd party ownerships involved.

Not a bad article, no gratuitous slagging us off. I can't say I would enjoy negotiating with that maze of agents.

£42m for Mangala, that's absolute stupid if true, Bayern only paid €26m for Benatia who we were also in for (less than half!!) However, the guardian are not know for truthful journalism as they employ Jamie nobhead Jackson.

It is a very detailed breakdown of fees though.

[nottsblue]

Regarding the idea that players would want to play for Vieira as he was a great player himself are forgetting what a disaster Keane was as a manager. Both were players of the same mould in the same era who had the same personal desire to succeed.

Being a great player rarely transforms into being a great manager

[Dameerto]

That wanker thought he could take his onfield thuggery and bullying into management with him though - he was doomed to failure from the beginning.

[sheblue]

the guardian do seem pretty adamant on the 42m fee for mangala, love to know who the club sources are that confined this to them! lol...

[PrezIke]

Manuel Pellegrini set to stay as Manchester City manager next season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ext-season

Bit of a break down of the signings made by Txiki as well, and the dealings with agents/3rd party ownerships involved.

Not a bad article, no gratuitous slagging us off. I can't say I would enjoy negotiating with that maze of agents.

£42m for Mangala, that's absolute stupid if true, Bayern only paid €26m for Benatia who we were also in for (less than half!!) However, the guardian are not know for truthful journalism as they employ Jamie nobhead Jackson.

It is a very detailed breakdown of fees though.

I heard on the Blue Moon podcast on a few occasions from other journalists -- including one from MEN I believe who did not challenge the assertion, and some journalists from other major outlets who also stated they are supporters of the clu -- that City has openly stated that the price they first announced of £32mil was wrong and it was really £42mil.

[PrezIke]

Here it is from The Telegraph in January:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Uefa.html

The arrival of Bony takes City’s spending during the winter and summer windows to £83million, with the full fee for Porto defender Eliaquim Mangala now being confirmed as £42million, rather than the £32m reported by the club at the time of his arrival.

This all has to do with the multiple 3rd party ownership issues of course. I read someone state on Blue Moon we paid Porto £24.3mil for 56.67%, but with 3rd party ownership being illegal we had to pay off the others, and there were multiple owners of his rights. One supposedly the fee paid to them is unknown.

I could have swoen I heard those reporters say, "the club has confirmed that they paid £42million"

Doesn't matter anyway. He's ours now, but what it does show is how awful 3rd party ownership is for clubs to deal with, and may lead to players being given a harder time by fans as their transfer fees are sure to be much higher than those without it as a result.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Yep, I've also read numerous reports that said it was in fact £42million.

What I can't get my head around is why it was reported at £32million in the first place if that is actually the case. Why would the club do that?