Kids ready for the first team?

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Kids ready for the first team?

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:14 pm

Nacho
Denayer
Lopes

But what about Garcia? He seems fucking fantastic. Pozo? He hasn't gone backwards has he?

Angelino shouldn't have gone on loan based upon seeing him look like Marcelo in MLS.

Who else do TwoSips and Ted and Dougie Fresh think should or could graduate this season to the first team for realz?

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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby kinkylola » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:27 pm

angelino could come back in the winter and go right on to our bench and start seeing some play time.

Nacho, Denayer and Garcia have impressed me a lot ... and lopes looks like a very dangerous dribbler. I think they're all ready for a shot in some games. I've really liked zuccilni too, actually.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Tru_Blu » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:35 pm

Nacho for sure, Denayer should get Demechilis spot when we have no injuries. the rest should go on loan with the option of coming back during the winter.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:03 pm

Garcia is a massive talent as is humphreys and I reckon a loan deal should be in the offing before being chucked in at the deep end
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby blues2win » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:19 pm

I'd rather have Maffeo to understudy Zaba than Sagna. Manu Garcia looks close too. I suppose we can't have a side full of small players in the Premier League though. That's where Pogba would come in. Sigh!
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby twosips » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:28 pm

Starting to come round to the idea that sending Garcia out on loan would be a bad idea. Think he'd just be better staying here, learning from the best with the odd game with the view to a full promotion in twelve months.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:35 pm

[quote="kinkylola"]angelino could come back in the winter and go right on to our bench and start seeing some play time.

Nacho, Denayer and Garcia have impressed me a lot ... and lopes looks like a very dangerous dribbler. I think they're all ready for a shot in some games. I've really liked zuccilni too, actually.[/quote]

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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby twosips » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:41 pm

Denayer is ready to be a very good squad member. Iheanacho might even (deservedly) start the season against West brom with Bony/Aguero not fit. Lopes is a fantastic option, real talent. Much more threatening than Navas, and i like Navas really.

Garcia is majestic and will probs find himself on the bench every now and then. Why hold back a player that's developing that insanely quickly? Maffeo and Angelino will be ready next season.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:01 pm

Id throw Ian in against the baggies no danger.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:05 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:Id throw Ian in against the baggies no danger.


If it were up to me, I'd also take the big risk of playing Denayer and Mangala together against them.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:12 pm

twosips wrote:Denayer is ready to be a very good squad member. Iheanacho might even (deservedly) start the season against West brom with Bony/Aguero not fit. Lopes is a fantastic option, real talent. Much more threatening than Navas, and i like Navas really.

Garcia is majestic and will probs find himself on the bench every now and then. Why hold back a player that's developing that insanely quickly? Maffeo and Angelino will be ready next season.


Gut reaction and maybe being a tad on the negative side I don't think any are totally ready yet.The nearest 2 are Iheanacho and Denayer. Iheanacho should and will be part of the first team squad.On the bench all the time with some appearances especially in Cup games.

Denayer I agree should be our third choice with Vinnie and Mangala as the 2 starters. Demichelis as a number four seems ideal for me and we know he wouldn't let us down. Having watched him in the pre season there is definitely some learning and bedding in for Denayer to do and there are mistakes there. Not an absolute started just yet but he will be.

Lopes instead of Navas I can go with. Even though Navas has qualities I think most of them are his effort and defensive workrate. Still far far too often in good positions he fails to deliver but I think Lopes would more often.However does Lopes get up and down as we need on that right side? Woudl Roberts be a better bet than Lopes. I have no idea but have a feeling he would be in the attacking side of the game. BUT none of them will be in our first team best side will they as it will either be Sterling or Silva starting there with Aguero or Bony up top.

Garcia is one for the future of that there surely can be no doubt but we have plenty of others we can say that about as well like Humphreys,Tosin,Maffeo,Angelino,Gunn,Barker,Ambrose,Boadu,Celina,Bryan etc etc
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Wooders » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:38 pm

I think we've added to the squad nicely with Ian and Denayer especially - add this to sterling and Delph and I almost, actually I do, think we've done enough this window to be well in the challenge next season - we're still not there for the champs league IMO
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby blues2win » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:48 pm

L'Equipe say Ligue 1 side Bastia in Corsica have agreed a 1 year loan deal for Fofana.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby nottsblue » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Iheanacho is a given

So is Denayer. Both will have at least. 10/15 games this season, probably as sub to start with but that's not to be sniffed at.

Lopez, Pozo, Maffeo, Angelino, Garcia will probably have had the odd game by the seasons end. Another season in the EDS bulking up and this time next year they will get their chance. Lopez may get a chance if we suffer with injuries but there are six or seven guys ahead of him for a slot in the front three, unless we slot him into midfield which is highly unlikely I should think. Maybe a loan deal for a couple of the younger lads until January and take it from there.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby blues2win » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:10 pm

West Ham seem to have passed on Devante Cole. Trialling at Birmingham now.
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:20 pm

blues2win wrote:West Ham seem to have passed on Devante Cole. Trialling at Birmingham now.


Is he just being a bit too impatient? Why isn't he staying?

I think lopes and Garcia need to stick in the first team squad. A loan for Garcia would only make sense if he went to a team playing good football. Swansea? I dunno. Where? My gut says let him stick with the squad and he might surprise us all this season.

Fantastic problems to have really. This offseason has started to show what our academy investment may do. Only barca have done as well imho. We are amazing.

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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Mase » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:21 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Who else do TwoSips and Ted and Dougie Fresh think should or could graduate this season to the first team for realz?

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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby nottsblue » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:29 pm

blues2win wrote:West Ham seem to have passed on Devante Cole. Trialling at Birmingham now.

Lower Championship or upper League one is possibly his level. Spoke with Notts County's chief scout the other day and he had heard reports that he had a poor attitude at MK Dons, with a bit of an 'I am' way about him which didn't endear him to the management there.

He also said he had tried to get Brandon Barker on loan and the offer was politely declined
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:30 pm

Denayer and Ian.
Just a thought, the real top class players start making an impression in the first team at that age. Surely if they are as good as we say they are, then now is the time rather than faffing about sending them on loan deals?
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Re: Kids ready for the first team?

Postby kinkylola » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:43 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
kinkylola wrote:angelino could come back in the winter and go right on to our bench and start seeing some play time.

Nacho, Denayer and Garcia have impressed me a lot ... and lopes looks like a very dangerous dribbler. I think they're all ready for a shot in some games. I've really liked zuccilni too, actually.


Whinger was consumed alive by a completely irrational irritation over the whole Lampard saga. We don't know why, or upon what valid grounds he based his protestations, but he did.

Just think how his little mole-like mind would view such an scenario :- for whatever reason he would work himself into a frenzy and become apoplectic with rage with the ultimate danger of him either blowing a gasket, or spontaneously combusting on the spot.

It would be wonderful to see.


as much as I'd love to see wenger in fits, the MLS season ends in the winter, so unless he's on a multi-season deal, i'd imagine he comes back then.
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