Slim wrote:Hazy2 wrote:70 odd mill and I cannot see how Denayer would not have pushed for a place, both Mangala and Otter are in need of a partner. It does not help anyone that we look like we are waiting for Vinny, to get fit, which is the problem, he is never fit. Mangala either improves or will be gone. otter needs a a partner with pace and reads the game , Mangala is an athlete, but does not see danger, and has a mistake in him, we also need a De Jong type of player to glue the middle of the pitch, we are wide open there and out wide, when we lose the ball.
I don't think anyone saw MDM's rapid decline coming considering how well he's done for us in the past. Mangala's early season form kept him here(he was supposed to be a part exchange loan for Otamendi) and now he's stuttering we really are suffering at the back. Long term I think Otter and Mangala are the way forward. But neither is VK and we really need him to hold their hand through their settling period into this league. It's really all about leadership and whilst Joe and Yaya are able deputies, neither is a patch on Vinnie. If he comes back and stays fit, the lineup will settle with Otter as 1st choice, Mangala as 2nd and next season, Denayer as a rotational choice.
As people have stated in other threads, a two man midfield containing Yaya will offer next to no cover at the back. It's unreasonable to assume Fernando, Delph or Fernandinho can cover that much of the pitch by themselves and there is literally no formation where we can protect the back four when Pellegrini has decided that our fullbacks are wingers who come back to defend when they've got time.
I saw his rapid decline coming which is why Bayern got rid of him.
Getting MDM was a waste of time, everyone knows
that over the age of 30 your reactions are slower , you lose speed.
Vince was injury plagued at Hamburg which is why we got him so cheaply. As a midfielder he has adapted very well to the role of centre back.
He's an intelligent guy and a good captain, but an average defender who is always injured.
Vince needs replacing. We should have a back four and keep them in as long as possible. We don't have stability anymore.
